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NFL Championship Sunday + Baron Davis

Monday, January 21, 201917 takes

An absolutely unreal Championship Sunday. Fastest 2 minutes with special guest Hank ( - ). Recapping the AFC and NFC Championship. Tom Brady defies all logic, the Chiefs couldn't stop anything, Tony Romo was on fire and Dee Ford will forever be the goat ( - ). The Saints got screwed, Sean Payton loves Taysom Hill too much, and Sean McVay owes us a suite at the Super Bowl ( - ). Who's back of the week including Drake and Soulja Boy ( - ). Former NBA All Star Baron Davis joins the show to talk about his career, the time Derrick Coleman almost killed him for letting Steve Kerr hit threes, and why Big Cat should stop saying Ball Is Life ( - ). Segments include Stay Classy Greg Hardy, Petty Wars NBA, Kings Stay Kings Skip Bayless, and Monday Reading "I love my wife but she openly sleeps with other men and says my penis is too small to please her".

NFL Championship Sunday Recap and Baron Davis on NBA Grittiness

Three hours after the final whistle and Big Cat’s heart is still beating. We just witnessed arguably the greatest Championship Sunday in NFL history, and of course, it was defined by a mix of Tom Brady’s inevitability and the most egregious missed call in the history of the sport. Hank made his debut performing the Fastest 2 Minutes, complete with some late-millennial references that PFT Commenter correctly identified as a bit much, but the energy was there for a pair of overtime classics.

The Brady Inevitability and Andy Reid's Clock

Tom Brady is reaching a point where sports just don't make sense anymore. Every time the Chiefs looked like they had the game won, Brady would just convert another third-and-long to Julian Edelman or a sandbagging Rob Gronkowski.

Win
Jan 21, 2019
#1851
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Rob Gronkowski was sandbagging all season and is actually the best tight end in the NFL again

I'm going to eat a bird, a big black bird with feathers, and say that Rob Gronkowski was sandbagging the entire season. He's totally healthy. He's actually the best tight end in the NFL right now. I'm sure he'll show up for the Super Bowl.

Gronkowski had a massive catch to set up the game-winning TD in the Super Bowl and was clearly elite for the postseason run, though he retired immediately after (before returning in 2020).

While Brady was being Brady, Andy Reid was being Andy Reid. The guys were baffled by Big Red’s refusal to use his timeouts during the Patriots' final drive in overtime. He basically let his defense tire out and die on the field while the clock didn't even matter because the game couldn't end in a tie.

Void
Jan 21, 2019
#1853
Big CatBig Cat

Andy Reid's clock management in overtime was baffling and classic Andy Reid

I still don't understand Andy Reid, and I don't want to blame, you know, do the timeout thing, but you have three timeouts in overtime that can't end in a tie... And he let his defense just die out there without calling one timeout, whether it be at a third and ten, whether it be when the Patriots get to the goal line. It was baffling to see... That happened. I guess it wasn't really baffling because that's Andy Reid.

Reid famously struggled with clock management in big games for years, a narrative that only shifted after he won multiple Super Bowls with Mahomes.

There was also some serious “Stay Woke” energy regarding Tony Romo’s performance in the booth. Romo was predicting plays with such accuracy that PFT floated a conspiracy theory that the CBS production team was feeding the coordinators' audio directly into Romo’s earpiece.

Loss
Jan 21, 2019
#1855
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tony Romo is receiving the coordinators' play-call audio in his earpiece during broadcasts

I know someone who works for the CBS football production team, and CBS is pulling play-call audio and hot routes from the same radio channel that the coordinators send to play into the QB's helmet. They direct the audio into Romo's earpiece, and he appears to know all the calls beforehand.

This is factually incorrect; Romo's 'precognition' was based on his high-level study of tape and defensive alignments, which he has explained in numerous interviews.

Heartbreak in the Bayou

The Saints got absolutely jobbed. We all saw it. Bill Vinovich and his crew missed a pass interference call so blatant it looked like a glitch in the Matrix. Big Cat, ever the conspiracy theorist, thinks there might be a bit of historical balancing happening with that specific officiating crew.

Loss
Jan 21, 2019
#24579
Big CatBig Cat

The NFL is fixed and Bill Vinovich deliberately blew the pass interference call against the Saints to 'even out' his reputation for hating the Rams.

It was Bill Vinovich saying, everyone knows I go against the Rams, so I've got to even it out here. Fix was in. The league's fixed.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
The NFL is not a scripted or 'fixed' league in this manner; the call was simply a catastrophic human error.

Beyond the officiating, the guys noted that Sean Payton might be a little too obsessed with Taysom Hill. Every time the Saints had momentum with Drew Brees, Hill would swap in and the rhythm would vanish. Big Cat argued that in a game of this magnitude, you don't take your Hall of Fame QB off the field.

Void
Jan 21, 2019
#1859
Big CatBig Cat

Any play the Saints run without Drew Brees under center is a disservice to the team

Anytime you snap the football without Drew Brees under center you're doing your team a disservice. I get it, there's some fun things you can do with Taysom Hill... But, like, it was seriously every fifth or sixth play, like, oh, we haven't had Taysom Hill. Let's get him in there. What are you doing? Just play the Rams straight up, and you'd probably win that game.

Hill was effective but many fans and analysts felt taking the ball out of Brees' hands in a close title game was overthinking by Payton.

Ultimately, the vibe is that the window might be slammed shut for the Saints, while Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs are just getting their engines warm.

Win
Jan 21, 2019
#24575
Big CatBig Cat

The Saints' championship window is likely closing, whereas the Chiefs' run is just getting started.

The losses are not equal because the NFC Championship game, that's probably it. It's close to it for Drew Brees and Sean Payton, those Saints. For the Chiefs, it feels like this is just getting started.

Correct. Brees never made it back to another Super Bowl and retired two years later, while Mahomes went on to multiple Super Bowl titles.

Baron Davis on the Modern NBA

Former All-Star Baron Davis joined the show to discuss his new series *WTF Baron Davis* and his career in the league. He gave us a great look into the old-school NBA culture where teammates actually fought each other. He recounted the time Derek Coleman literally punched him in the locker room because he let Steve Kerr hit too many threes. Davis also explained why the current crop of stars is so friendly, pointing out that many of them have known each other since they were children in his own camps.

Void
Jan 21, 2019
#1862
Baron DavisBaron Davis

Modern NBA players are too friendly because they all grew up together in AAU and camps

Back in my day, like, everybody was mean, dude... I think that times evolve times change... if I was playing in those last five years, I can look and see that there were 30 guys who've been to my camp that are in the NBA. They were little kids in my camp. So why wouldn't we be friends, right? ... we didn't grow up on the same AAU team in people's basketball camp.

This is a subjective observation on league culture that is widely accepted by both fans and media as a byproduct of the youth sports system.

When asked how he would handle a superstar personality like LeBron James if he were coaching, Davis had a specific strategy centered around blue-collar challenges rather than just ego-stroking.

Void
Jan 21, 2019
#1864
Baron DavisBaron Davis

The best way to manage LeBron James is to challenge him to set picks and focus on team-oriented tasks

You have to challenge LeBron, right? ... finding little things in the game that could be challenging to LeBron that would ultimately dictate a better outcome... Can you set five incredible picks to get somebody open? Can you set a backdoor screen? Things off the ball that allows his teammates to like – so he's in the play but not in the play but still affecting the play.

This is a coaching philosophy that many have suggested, though in practice, LeBron has rarely been used as a primary screen-setter throughout his career.

He also took a moment to educate Big Cat on why he needs to stop saying "Ball is Life," calling it a "walking hashtag" look that real hoopers don't actually use.

Segments

Who’s Back featured a heated debate about Soulja Boy’s comeback status and the impending apocalypse. PFT is convinced the Super Wolf Blood Moon is a sign that the end is nigh.

Loss
Jan 21, 2019·Who's Back
#24576
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Super Wolf Blood Moon is a sign of the apocalypse, and all hell is going to break loose on January 22nd.

Obviously these apocalyptic signs in the heavens are pointing to a catastrophic event that is just on the horizon... on January 22nd, all hell's going to break loose. If you're listening to this, we're dead.

The apocalypse did not happen on January 22, 2019.

We wrapped things up with a Monday Reading from the *Toronto Star* about a man whose wife openly sleeps with other men because of his physical shortcomings and now wants to have a child that isn't his. It was the ultimate cuck story to end a wild episode.

If the world doesn't end on Tuesday, we'll see you in Atlanta.

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More Takes

Void
Jan 21, 2019
#24577
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL coaches who sing along with the national anthem are cursed to lose their games.

Both of the coaches who sang along with the national anthem lost today... Patriotism on the hot seat. It was Peyton and Andy Reid. Why did we not have a microphone satellite dish right in Andy Reid's face while he was singing along?

This is an inherently subjective superstition based on coincidence.
Loss
Jan 21, 2019
#1857
HankHank

There is a 75% chance Tom Brady retires if the Patriots win the Super Bowl

Put a percent chance that if the New England Patriots win the Super Bowl, Tom Brady says, I'm off. I'm done. I'm riding off in the sunset John Elway style. [Hank]: 75%? It would be the ultimate way to go out. I hope he does.

Brady won the Super Bowl and played for four more seasons, winning another ring with the Buccaneers.
Push
Jan 21, 2019
#1860
Big CatBig Cat

Sean McVay owes the hosts a Super Bowl suite and a ring for birthday week

Sean McVay said that he would get us a ring if the Rams win, get us a suite at the Super Bowl... I don't think he fully took off the table that we can call the first play. [PFT]: Well, he said that we could call the last play as a kneel down.

McVay did say these things in the August 2018 interview, but they were clearly non-binding jokes. They did not get a suite or a ring.
Void
Jan 21, 2019·Who's Back
#1861
HankHank

Soulja Boy had the biggest comeback in the rap industry in 2018

My who's back of the week is... Big Draco, Soulja Boy... he claimed he had the biggest comeback in 2018, which he probably did. He's got a video game console... First rapper with a console. Huge difference. He's back. He's going to have a huge 2019.

Soulja Boy did have a major viral resurgence in late 2018/early 2019, though his 'console' was a widely mocked dropshipping scheme that was eventually shut down.
Void
Jan 21, 2019
#1863
Baron DavisBaron Davis

UCLA should hire a young coach who cares about the school rather than Rick Pitino

I think for UCLA it's actually a golden opportunity for them to be smart like the Rams, right? Go get a young dude who cares... who wants to be there for a long time... [Big Cat]: Rick Pitino? [Baron Davis]: No... If you want hookers in the locker room, this is L.A. Imagine what he was doing in Louisville... We don't need Rick Pitino, man.

UCLA ended up hiring Mick Cronin (not a 'young dude' per se, but an established veteran) and Pitino went to Iona and then St. John's.
Void
Jan 21, 2019
#24578
Baron DavisBaron Davis

Playing pickup basketball to 7 by ones and twos is better than playing to 14 by twos and threes because the smaller numbers create more urgency and panic.

It's the same number when you're thinking about ones and twos. It's like you're just getting closer to a smaller number. So that smaller number actually causes more panic. When it's 14, you kind of look at it as a bigger number, and the game wouldn't have the same type of intensity. The more you lower the number... then a two-pointer gets you closer to that seven.

This is a matter of basketball philosophy and player psychology.
Loss
Jan 21, 2019
#1866
Big CatBig Cat

The missed pass interference call in the Saints-Rams game was retribution for Bounty Gate.

Was that no call in the Saints game, retribution finally for Bounty Gate? I think we can say with confidence, absolutely.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
There is no evidence that officiating errors are related to previous league scandals; it was an officiating failure.
Win
Jan 21, 2019
#1865
Big CatBig Cat

Zion Williamson should drop out of Duke and secure his shoe deal to avoid injury.

There is a world where it would make sense for [Zion] to not risk a catastrophic injury and just go... He will be the number one pick no matter what, probably. So why not just go do it? And he'll make more money on his shoe deal than he will playing basketball. So don't risk that whatsoever. Just leave and get your shoe deal.

Zion famously suffered a minor injury when his shoe blew out against North Carolina shortly after this episode aired, though he remained the #1 pick. The logic of avoiding injury risk was valid.

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