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Wednesday, August 1, 201821 takes

Rick Pitino has a book coming but we're not going to make those jokes (-). MLB Trade Deadline and who is ALL IN (-). Draymond vs Tristan Fight (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (-). Mt Rushmore of Football Guys (-). CBS Sports' Pete Prisco joins the show to talk about the upcoming NFL season, ranking his favorite quarterbacks, Tom Coughlin stories, and the time he ate late night pizza with Mark Davis (-). Bachelor talk for guys that don't watch the Bachelor (-), Jon Gruden's time machine (-) Owners should pay for their own fucking stadium (-), hurt or injured Arizona Cardinals blocking sled (-), and Guys on Chicks (-).

Pete Prisco on NFL Predictions, Tom Coughlin Stories, and Football Guys

Big Cat and PFT are officially in the jackpot because Rick Pitino is releasing a memoir. While the guys promise to start a book club where they read one chapter a week, they can't help but point out that the hardcover version likely turns into a soft cover the second you touch it. Between the Pitino talk and the MLB trade deadline, the energy is high as we officially hit the month of August.

Void
Aug 1, 2018
#18391
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Nationals should have traded Bryce Harper at the 2018 MLB trade deadline.

As one who possesses Natitude, I think [the Nationals] probably should have traded him. My guess is they just got a bunch of shitty offers for him because he sucks this year.

Harper left in free agency for the Phillies the following offseason, and the Nationals won the World Series the year after he left.

PFT isn't thrilled with the Nationals' standing, but the real drama is in the NBA where Tristan Thompson reportedly punched Draymond Green at a club. Big Cat is convinced this is the end of an era for the Cavaliers' remaining chemistry.

Loss
Aug 1, 2018
#18392
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James will never speak to Tristan Thompson again following the Draymond Green club fight.

LeBron then left the club right after because he was sick of the shit. And that leads me to the question, do you think LeBron James will ever speak to Tristan Thompson again in his life? He's a fake friend. You don't leave your friend behind like that. He's never going to converse with him again. That was it.

While it was a tense moment, they played together on the Lakers years later and remained on good terms publicly.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank leads off the Hot Seat with houses, citing a study that millennials aren't buying real estate because they're too busy spending their down payments on bachelor parties. PFT moves the NFL shield to the Hot Seat after hearing rumors that the Panthers might replace the logo at midfield.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell should revoke David Tepper's ownership if he removes the NFL shield from the 50-yard line.

[David Tepper] is thinking about changing the midfield logo to a Panther. This would be the Panthers spitting in the face of Roger Goodell. I think Roger Goodell should think about revoking his charter as an owner.

Tepper did eventually change the logo to a Panther, and the NFL did not revoke his ownership. It remains a matter of opinion whether it was 'spitting in the face' of the league.

Mount Rushmore of Football Guys

This Mount Rushmore was sparked by a legendary quote from Wilton Speight regarding Jim Harbaugh's dietary restrictions. Apparently, Harbaugh refuses to eat chicken because it’s a "nervous bird" and he only wants to consume the spirits of confident animals like cows and pigs.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

You should never eat chicken because it is a 'nervous bird.'

Harbaugh pulled Wilton Speight aside and told him not to eat chicken, a protein that is considered fairly safe by nutritionists. When Speight asked why, Harbaugh said, 'Because it's a nervous bird.' He thinks some type of sickness injected its way into the human population when people began eating white meats instead of beef and pork. And I believe it 100%.

The idea that eating chicken makes humans nervous is scientifically unsupported and inherently subjective.

Big Cat goes with Mike Ditka as his homer pick, while Hank snags Bill Belichick and Vince Lombardi. PFT rounds things out with Bill Parcells and Buddy Ryan, noting that Buddy is the ultimate football guy because he literally produced two more football guys. Big Cat also makes a controversial pander pick by selecting Billy Football, who chose his D3 college team over a full-time spot on the pod.

Pete Prisco

CBS Sports' Pete Prisco joins the show to talk about his 2018 season previews. Pete is famous for watching the tape and not caring about your feelings, which is evident when he breaks down why he has the Seahawks winning only five games.

Loss
Aug 1, 2018
#18395
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

The Seattle Seahawks will finish the 2018 season with a 5-11 record.

When I tally it up, I look back at it and I go, how the heck did I get the Seahawks at 5-11? Because I didn't think they would be that bad either. But then I went back and looked at it. Their schedule is brutal. I mean, it is really, really tough. And I think those defensive losses are going to be felt.

The Seahawks went 10-6 in 2018 and made the playoffs, making this a very incorrect prediction.
Loss
Aug 1, 2018
#18396
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

Russell Wilson is a very good quarterback, but he is not great.

For years, everybody thinks I'm a Russell Wilson hater. I just think he's very good and he's not great. People want to put him in the Hall of Fame. Well, now we're going to find out. I don't think the defense is going to be nearly as good... it's his team now. He needs to be great.

Wilson had arguably his best statistical season in 2018 (35 TDs, 7 INTs) and led Seattle to 10 wins, arguably proving he was 'great' without the Legion of Boom.

PFT isn't buying the Seahawks' demise, mostly because he's all-in on their backfield.

Win
Aug 1, 2018
#18397
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Seahawks running back Chris Carson will rush for 1,200 yards this season.

Carson is coming back this year. He broke his leg last year. That guy is going to be an awesome running back. I'm standing on the table officially right now for Chris Carson. You heard it here first. That guy is going to run for like 1,200 yards.

Carson finished the 2018 season with 1,151 rushing yards, which is remarkably close to the 1,200 yard mark.

The conversation shifts to the value of running backs in the modern NFL. While Pete argues that drafting them early is like buying a car that loses value the moment it leaves the lot, Big Cat sees a darker, more efficient strategy for GMs.

Void
Aug 1, 2018
#23573
Big CatBig Cat

The smartest strategy for a team is to draft a top running back, run them into the ground, and let them walk at age 27.

I actually think that it's a smart strategy to draft a running back and then basically you control them through their best years and you never have to pay them in the free agency market. You draft Ezekiel Elliott, you run him to the ground, and then when you franchise tag him... you let him walk.

This strategy has largely been adopted by the league, though outcomes for individual teams vary.

As a Bears fan, Big Cat is looking for any reason to be optimistic, but Pete warns that the NFC North might still belong to the veterans. He specifically targets the Vikings' massive new contract for Kirk Cousins.

Push
Aug 1, 2018
#18398
Big CatBig Cat

Kirk Cousins is going to suck for the Vikings this year.

Kirk Cousins is going to suck this year. The answer is no [on whether he is good enough to get them past where they went a year ago].

Cousins had good stats (4,298 yards, 30 TD, 10 INT), but the Vikings missed the playoffs after making the NFC Championship the year before. 'Suck' is subjective here.
Void
Aug 1, 2018
#23570
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

Kirk Cousins is not much better than the version of Case Keenum that the Vikings had in 2017.

I asked this question to some of the [Vikings] guys standing around. I go, is Kirk Cousins, as is right now, that much better than the Case Keenum you guys saw here last year? The answer is no.

While Keenum struggled in Denver (6-10), Cousins was statistically productive but the Vikings missed the playoffs in 2018 after making the NFC Championship with Keenum.

Before letting him go, Pete shares some incredible Tom Coughlin stories from his days covering the Jaguars. From Coughlin calling Pete at 6:00 AM to scream about not giving players "excuses" for their tired legs, to a rulebook that was updated specifically to ban Jeff Lageman's bolo ties, it’s a masterclass in hard-nosed coaching.

Segments

During a quick John Gruden Time Machine, the guys react to the news that Gruden is showing his players grainy film from 1976. Big Cat is ready for the wheels to come off in Oakland.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Jon Gruden is going to be a disaster for the Raiders.

I think John Gruden is going to be such a disaster for the Raiders, but I am so excited to watch it. It's going to be three yards in a cloud of dust. They're going to get figured out by week three.

Gruden never had a winning season in his return to the Raiders before resigning in 2021. The team was largely mediocre to poor during his tenure.

To wrap up the show, the guys get "woke" on a video of Chandler Jones breaking a blocking sled during Cardinals camp. While the footage looks impressive, PFT thinks the GoPro angle is a little too convenient for a PR team.

Void
Aug 1, 2018
#18406
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The video of Chandler Jones breaking a blocking sled is a fake PR stunt.

I'm a little bit woke on this, too, because why do you have a camera that's filming this? It was at a cool angle, too. It was like a GoPro. He broke it... I'm very woke on it. I think I'm leaning towards fake on it.

While never definitively proven fake, NFL teams frequently stage social media content for engagement, making PFT's skepticism plausible.

If you're going to break equipment, at least do it in a stadium the owners paid for themselves.

Void
Aug 1, 2018·Picks
#18405
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL owners should pay for their own stadiums without taxpayer money.

The owners should pay for their own fucking stadium. A segment that we'll throw out there... If the taxpayers pay for the stadium, they get to decide the rules. No laws inside the stadium. Anything you want.

This is a subjective political and economic opinion that remains a major debate in sports business.

Don't eat the chicken unless you want to play like a coward.

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More Takes

Void
Aug 1, 2018
#23569
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

Matt Ryan is a better quarterback than Matthew Stafford, Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, and Blake Bortles.

[Ranking Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford, Blake Bortles, Andrew Luck, and Russell Wilson] I'll go Matt Ryan, [then] Matthew Stafford, Russell Wilson. [Andrew Luck] will be four, and then [Blake] Bortles will be five.

Subjective ranking of quarterbacks at a specific moment in time.
Loss
Aug 1, 2018
#18400
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

The Green Bay Packers will face the Jacksonville Jaguars in Super Bowl LIII.

I had in my predictions the Super Bowl as Packers versus Jaguars. I think the Patriots are going to be... as long as Belichick and Brady are there, they're going to be fine. It's just that I don't think they're going to the Super Bowl. I think Jacksonville's legit.

Neither team made the playoffs. The Jaguars went 5-11 and the Packers went 6-9-1. The Patriots (who Prisco faded) won the Super Bowl.
Win
Aug 1, 2018
#18399
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Drew Brees is just a 'dinker and a dunker' now.

Brees still, huh? Really? But all he does is he dinks and dunks. He's a dinker. He's a dunker. No, all he does is, like, oh, I got Kamara. I'm just going to give him the ball and let him run with it. That's what Drew Brees does.

In 2018, Brees had the highest completion percentage in NFL history (74.4%) but his intended air yards per attempt were indeed lower than in his prime, supporting the 'dink and dunk' label.
Win
Aug 1, 2018
#18401
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

Sam Darnold will be the first rookie quarterback to start a game in the 2018 season.

Who's going to be the first rookie quarterback to start a game? Darnold. I think Darnold's going to start sooner rather than later.

Sam Darnold started Week 1 for the Jets, becoming the youngest opening-day starter in the Super Bowl era.
Win
Aug 1, 2018
#18402
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

Josh Allen is going to be a big-time NFL quarterback despite his college stats.

Josh Allen's going to be a good quarterback, though, but I can't figure out for the life of me why that kid takes as much abuse as he does. Okay, his stats weren't good at Wyoming, but if you watch the tape, he was playing with bouncers and bartenders... he is going—it might take him a little seasoning—but he's going to be a big-time quarterback.

Josh Allen became one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, completely validating Prisco's projection.
Void
Aug 1, 2018
#23572
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

Jimmy Garoppolo's inclusion in the 2018 NFL Top 100 was ridiculous.

Jimmy Garoppolo threw seven touchdown passes and five interceptions last year, and he was in the [Top 100]. In some people, that's ridiculous.

Subjective opinion on a player ranking.
Push
Aug 1, 2018
#23571
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

The Houston Texans and Denver Broncos will both sneak into the AFC playoffs this season.

[One team in each conference sneaking into the playoffs] I put the Texans and the Broncos in. I had two of them in the AFC.

The Texans made the playoffs (11-5), but the Broncos missed out (6-10).
Loss
Aug 1, 2018
#18403
Pete PriscoPete Prisco

The Cincinnati Bengals have a chance to be a sneaky playoff team in 2018.

Don't sleep on the Bengals either, by the way. You're going to laugh when I tell you that. The Bengals have a chance. Because they've got young talent on defense... Lawson and Willis... and that offensive line... I think it'll be better with getting Cordy Glenn in there.

The Bengals finished 6-10 and last in the AFC North, failing to make the playoffs.

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