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NFL Week 4 Recap, Minshew Mania, Chase Daniel Redemption, And We Create A Bansky

Monday, September 30, 201914 takes

NFL Week 4 fastest 2 minutes ( -). We recap every game from Sunday ( - ). The Falcons are a clown show. The Lions aren't bad? Raiders finally won in EST. We say something nice about the Dolphins. The Browns are back to being Super Bowl Champs. Is Jameis Good? Chase Daniel redeems all Chases, and we discuss if you can have Zane as a kicker. Who's back of the week ( - ). Football guy of the week ( - ). Uhh ya think, and a Monday Reading about a guy obsessed with Virgins vs Chad memes ().

NFL Week 4 Recap: Minshew Mania, Ravens Frauds, and Chase Daniel Redemption

Week 4 is officially in the books, and the NFL landscape looks completely different than it did seven days ago. We had road teams going 10-2, the Browns suddenly looking like Super Bowl contenders again, and a backup quarterback revolution taking over the league. Big Cat and PFT are navigating a world where the Falcons have officially lost their pulse and the Detroit Lions might actually be a good football team despite a heartbreaking loss to the Chiefs.

The AFC North Flip-Flop

Everyone spent the week burying Freddie Kitchens and the Browns while anointing Lamar Jackson the next king of the AFC. Naturally, the Browns went into Baltimore and hung 40 on the Ravens. Nick Chubb was running like a man possessed, and the Ravens' defense suddenly looks like it couldn't stop a nosebleed. PFT isn't waiting for a larger sample size to make a declaration on Baltimore.

Loss
Sep 30, 2019
#17819
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Ravens are frauds

The Ravens are frauds. Ravens are hot Ravens are frauds not fraudulent footballs. I don't know what fraud means in the context of football team really but it feels great to call a team a fraud.

The 2019 Ravens finished 14-2, Lamar Jackson won MVP, and they set the NFL record for rushing yards in a season. They were definitely not frauds.

Big Cat pointed out that the defensive regression in Baltimore is genuinely staggering. After years of Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, seeing this unit get shredded is a shock to the system.

Loss
Sep 30, 2019
#22520
Big CatBig Cat

The Ravens' defense is terrible after giving up 1,000 yards in two weeks

The Ravens are looking at giving up over a thousand yards total in the last two weeks and their defense sucks. ... It is kind of confusing seeing the defense look really, really bad especially against the Browns whose offense didn't look great over the last couple of weeks.

The Ravens defense did struggle mid-season but finished 2019 as a top-5 unit in points allowed, making this an early-season overreaction.

Mahomes Indoors and the Lions' Moral Victory

In Detroit, we saw Patrick Mahomes play his first game under a roof, and the results were... human? The Lions' defense played a masterful game, forcing fumbles and keeping Mahomes out of the end zone for the first time in his career. Big Cat has a theory that the reigning MVP might just be a creature of the elements.

Loss
Sep 30, 2019
#17818
Big CatBig Cat

Patrick Mahomes is allergic to air conditioning and indoor stadiums

Mahomes first game indoors... I just think he's allergic to air conditioning... He's the reverse the maybe that is his one Kryptonite, right? The ceilings is... healing is literally the roof. He can't handle the fact that he can't throw the ball like a million million yards in the air when he's throwing it deep to someone he needs the sun. He's like a plant.

Mahomes has gone on to win multiple Super Bowls in domes (SB LVII in Glendale, SB LVIII in Las Vegas) and generally performs excellently indoors.

Despite the loss, Matt Stafford played one of the grittiest games of his career. He was moving the ball at will and, in the eyes of some, was the better quarterback on the field Sunday afternoon.

Void
Sep 30, 2019
#22521
Big CatBig Cat

Matthew Stafford outdueled Patrick Mahomes in Week 4

Matt Stafford, I'm going to say this, Matt Stafford outdueled Patrick Mahomes. ... [Mahomes] did not look sharp. He was missing guys. He was throwing guys—he looked okay, but he wasn't Patrick Mahomes.

Subjective comparison of performance in a single game.

Minshew Mania and the Death of the Falcons

The most electric man in football right now isn't Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady; it's a guy with a mustache and a headband in Jacksonville. Gardner Minshew went into Denver and played with the kind of ice-cold moxie that makes you believe anything is possible. Big Cat is officially a believer in the Minshew Magic when the game is on the line.

Push
Sep 30, 2019
#22523
Big CatBig Cat

Gardner Minshew is a lock to lead a game-winning drive in the 4th quarter

Minshew Mania is so fucking real. ... When he gets the ball in the fourth quarter and they need to go, you know, whatever 60 yards for the field goal to win the game, I don't think anyone doubted he was gonna do it. No, he's going to do it.

Minshew did have several late-game heroics in 2019, but ultimately the Jaguars finished 6-10.

While the Jaguars are ascending, the Atlanta Falcons are headed in the opposite direction. They are a professional clown show at this point. Dan Quinn's seat isn't just hot; it's melting. They can't score in the red zone, they can't stop anyone, and the energy is completely gone.

Win
Sep 30, 2019
#17817
Big CatBig Cat

The Falcons are officially dead for the 2019 season

Falcons are dead. They are officially dead... I don't even think they have like fighting them. Dan Quinn needs to be fired.

The Falcons finished the 2019 season 7-9 and missed the playoffs. Dan Quinn was eventually fired midway through the 2020 season.

The Chase Daniel Era in Chicago

Mitchell Trubisky went down with a shoulder injury on the first drive against the Vikings, leading to the redemption of all Chases everywhere. Chase Daniel came in and did exactly what a $10 million backup is supposed to do: manage the game and let the defense eat Kirk Cousins alive.

Win
Sep 30, 2019
#17822
Big CatBig Cat

Chase Daniel has a higher floor but lower ceiling than Mitchell Trubisky

I think that chase [Daniel] has a lower ceiling but a higher floor... then Mitchell [Trubisky] does. He's not going to make mistakes. He's not going to lose you the game. But... if the Bears ever get into a game where they have to score and have to throw the ball downfield he's not going to be that guy.

This accurately describes Chase Daniel's entire NFL career. He was a high-floor game manager who rarely threw interceptions but lacked the arm talent to lead high-scoring offenses.

On the other side of that game, the vibes in Minnesota are atrocious. Adam Thielen is calling out the passing game in the media, and it feels like a cold war is brewing between the star receiver and his highly-paid quarterback.

Push
Sep 30, 2019
#22522
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kirk Cousins and Adam Thielen are about to enter a 'passive-aggressive war'

After the game Adam Thielen said 'at some points we have to start being able to throw the ball downfield.' ... They're about to enter into the most passive aggressive war ever those two. It's going to be like they're going to be leaving notes for each other.

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While there was public tension, they remained teammates and the offense improved significantly later in the season.

College Football and Monday Readings

Looking at the college slate, Clemson survived a massive scare against North Carolina, but the guys aren't convinced they'll be tested again until January. The ACC is a dumpster fire, and the Tigers have a paved road to the playoff.

Win
Sep 30, 2019
#17825
Big CatBig Cat

Clemson will reach the National Championship without playing an impressive game

Clemson is still undefeated... Clemson is going to go all the way to the National Championship or the college football playoff without having to play one impressive game because the ACC stinks.

Clemson went 13-0 in the regular season with their closest game being a 1-point win over UNC. They reached the National Championship where they finally lost to LSU.

Finally, the show wrapped up with a Monday Reading about a boyfriend who categorizes his entire life into "Virgin vs. Chad" memes. It's a binary system that Big Cat and PFT find surprisingly useful, even if it's ruining this listener's relationship.

If you see a guy in a tuxedo jumping around a dive bar tonight, just know that Pitbull started somewhere too.

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More Takes

Win
Sep 30, 2019
#17815
Big CatBig Cat

Mason Rudolph is not a starting quarterback in the NFL

I've said it and the end this will confirm it tomorrow night. I don't care how good [Mason Rudolph] is tomorrow night if he does really, really well. He's not a starting quarterback in the NFL. I've seen enough of his face.

Mason Rudolph spent the next several years as a backup or third-stringer, only seeing starting time due to injuries or benchings. He has not established himself as a franchise starter.
Loss
Sep 30, 2019
#17820
Big CatBig Cat

Bruce Arians has fixed Jameis Winston

Bruce Arians... he has fixed him. Well he's gotten through to him.

In 2019, Jameis Winston became the first player in NFL history to throw for 30 touchdowns and 30 interceptions in the same season (the 30/30 club). He was definitively not fixed.
Open
Sep 30, 2019
#17823
Big CatBig Cat

Arch Manning will be a quarterback in the NFL for 20 years

Arch Manning who's going to be a quarterback in the NFL for 20 years. Arch Manning is going to play in the NFL for 20 years isn't he? ... Some team, hopefully this is what Washington is doing, they're making dummies out of all of us and they're going to be tanking for the next five to six years just so that they can get Arch Manning.

Arch Manning is currently in college (Texas) as of 2024; his NFL career hasn't started.
Win
Sep 30, 2019
#17824
Big CatBig Cat

Joe Flacco doesn't make me feel alive as a quarterback

Joe Flacco... he wasn't bad and the defense actually had a sack... but what do you do... Joe Flacco didn't play bad are settling for him. That's what we're doing. We're selling he's tall he's on paper. He's great. But you know, he doesn't make me feel alive.

The 2019 Broncos finished 7-9. Flacco was benched mid-season for Drew Lock and hasn't been a consistent winning starter since.
Loss
Sep 30, 2019
#17826
Big CatBig Cat

Virginia will never win a big game in their 'candy-ass' orange uniforms

UVA can't win a big game. That orange, it's candy-ass. They will never win a big game. I have said it and so it hath been said. ... I just kept on seeing it, I was like this team's never going to win.

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Virginia won the Coastal division in 2019 and played in the Orange Bowl, though they have generally struggled since.

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