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NFL Week 5, Fastest 2 Minutes, Recapping A Wild Sunday, Deshaun Needs To Benched Plus Playoff Baseball

Monday, October 7, 202413 takes

NFL Week 5 and we start with fastest 2 minutes. We then get into every game from a wild Sunday (-) Vikings 23, Jets 17 (-) Ravens 41, Bengals 38 (-) Texans 23, Bills 20 (-) Commanders 34, Browns 13 (-) Jaguars 37, Colts 34 (-) Bears 36, Panthers 10 (-) Dolphins 15, Patriots 10 (-) Cardinals 24, 49ers 23 (-) Broncos 34, Raiders 18 (-) Giants 29, Seahawks 20 (-) Packers 24, Rams 19 (-) Talk some playoff baseball (-) Cowboys 20, Steelers 17 (-) We wrap up with who's back of the week (-).

NFL Week 5 Recap: Deshaun Watson's Bench-ability, Jaden Daniels' Dominance, and Playoff Baseball

NFL Week 5 was an absolute heater that delivered everything from overtime shootouts to weather delays that kept the crew in the office until past midnight. The energy in the studio was a tale of two couches, with Big Cat riding high on a dominant Bears performance while PFT tried to process the reality of his Commanders being a legitimate NFC powerhouse. The early slate was particularly chaotic, starting with a London game that proved once again that the NFL will put anything on television at 9:30 AM and we will all collectively watch every snap regardless of how many interceptions Aaron Rodgers throws.

The AFC North Shootout and the Bengals' Hole

In what might be the game of the year so far, the Ravens outlasted the Bengals 41-38 in an overtime thriller that featured Lamar Jackson making a play so spectacular it looked like he was playing a different sport. Joe Burrow played nearly perfect football, throwing five touchdowns, but one mistimed interception and a botched hold on a field goal attempt dropped Cincinnati to a devastating 1-4. Despite the record and the historically bad defense, Big Cat isn't ready to bury Joe Cool just yet.

Loss
Oct 7, 2024
#17467
Big CatBig Cat

The 1-4 Bengals will still make the playoffs

I'll say it. [The Bengals] are gonna make the playoffs. Fuck it. I'm gonna bet it on DraftKings make the playoffs.

The Bengals finished 4-13 or similar poor record and did not make the playoffs in 2024.

On the other side of that division, the Browns have reached a point of no return with Deshaun Watson. After a 34-13 dismantling at the hands of the Commanders, the conversation has shifted from "when will he get better" to "why is he still on the field." Watson looked completely lost, at one point walking off the field on a fourth-down attempt while his coach stood in disbelief.

Win
Oct 7, 2024
#17463
Big CatBig Cat

Deshaun Watson has to be benched

Deshaun Watson has to be benched. There was a moment in this game where I was like, holy fuck. How is this guy still playing? He doesn't want to go for it on fourth down... he stinks at football.

Watson was eventually benched (due to injury/poor play) and the Browns' offense improved significantly with other quarterbacks.

Jaden Daniels is the Real Deal

PFT is currently dealing with a severe case of "quarterback imposter syndrome" as Jaden Daniels continues to look like a top-tier veteran in a rookie's body. Even in a game where he wasn't statistically perfect, Daniels made clutch throws and used his legs to dismantle the Browns' defense. The Commanders are now 4-1 and sitting at the number two seed in the NFC, forcing PFT to reconsider exactly where his young star ranks among the league's elite.

Void
Oct 7, 2024
#17462
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jaden Daniels is the fourth best quarterback in the NFL

I think that Jaden Daniels is the [fourth] best quarterback in the NFL. It's around fifth... it's fourth.

While Daniels had an elite rookie season, ranking him 4th overall is highly subjective and depends on varying QB metrics.

Meanwhile, the Vikings stayed undefeated in London, surviving a shaky Sam Darnold performance thanks to a defense that seems to have every quarterback in the league seeing ghosts. Big Cat is officially a believer in what Kevin O'Connell is building in Minnesota, ranking them as the clear threat to the Super Bowl favorites.

Win
Oct 7, 2024
#23724
Big CatBig Cat

The Vikings are the second best team in the NFL behind only the Chiefs

The Vikings, I think are like, they're the most besides the Chiefs. They're probably the team I believe in the most as of right now... Five and oh, best team in football going into the bye week.

The Vikings started 5-0 but eventually suffered losses; however, they remained a top NFC contender throughout the 2024 season.

The Mid-Season Grind and Betting Trends

The guys also broke down a massive win for the Texans over the Bills. While Josh Allen struggled with one of the worst completion percentages of his career, CJ Stroud managed to navigate a tough Bills defense even after losing Nico Collins to a hamstring injury. It wasn't the prettiest win, but it signaled that Houston has another gear they haven't even hit yet.

Void
Oct 7, 2024
#23725
Big CatBig Cat

The 2024 Texans haven't even played their best football yet despite a 4-1 start

The crazy thing about the Texans, I don't think the Texans played their best game and they're four and one and look for real... it doesn't feel like they've put together a full four quarters yet and they're four and one.

Subjective assessment of team performance and 'ceiling'.

Speaking of teams with another gear, the 49ers suffered a brutal loss to the Cardinals in 100-degree heat. While the vibes are low in San Francisco, Big Cat reminded everyone that Kyle Shanahan's teams are notorious for starting slow and peaking when it actually matters.

Loss
Oct 7, 2024
#23727
Big CatBig Cat

The 49ers will eventually win the NFC West because they get better as the season progresses

The good news is for the 49ers... Kyle Shanahan teams... the teams get better as the year goes along. [In games 13 through 16, they are 20 and 8]. Still a bad loss... but you can still very much win the NFC West.

The 49ers did not win the NFC West in 2024. They finished 6-11, last in the division. The Rams won the NFC West instead.

PFT has also identified a new betting phenomenon known as the "Lions Hangover." After looking at the data, it appears that playing Dan Campbell's squad leaves teams so physically and mentally depleted that they almost always fall flat the following week.

Win
Oct 7, 2024
#17465
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 'Lions Hangover' is a real betting trend where teams lose the week after playing Detroit

Lions hangovers. I think it's a real thing... Rams played the Lions, then lost. Buccaneers beat the Lions, then lost. Cardinals lost to Lions, then lost. Seahawks lost to Lions, now they lose to the Giants.

The trend held up for several weeks in early 2024, providing a profitable betting angle until it was widely recognized.

Playoff Baseball and Who's Back

Max was back in the booth after a weekend of emotional highs and lows following the Phillies. After a devastating Game 1 loss to the Mets, Nick Castellanos delivered a walk-off hit in Game 2 that might have saved Philadelphia's season and Max's sanity. The Padres and Dodgers are also locked in a high-voltage series that features fans throwing trash on the field and players hitting home runs in response, which is exactly what October baseball should be.

To wrap things up, the crew looked ahead to a massive Week 6 and debated whether the Patriots should already be looking at the 2025 NFL Draft order. Hank, who is now officially a "Tankathon" enthusiast, has his eyes on a Heisman hopeful to save the franchise.

Loss
Oct 7, 2024
#23726
HankHank

The Patriots should draft Travis Hunter with the number one overall pick

If the season ended today, the mighty New England Patriots would be on the clock... I think you probably got to go with the best player in college football, Travis Hunter. [The scouts] know.

The Patriots did not draft Travis Hunter. Cam Ward was selected 1st overall. Travis Hunter was drafted 2nd overall by the Jacksonville Jaguars (who traded up for the pick).

If the season ended today, the Patriots would have the number one pick, which is the only thing keeping New England fans from a total mutiny.

At least the weather delay gave us a reason to drink six more coffees and watch Dak Prescott save Mike McCarthy’s job for one more week.

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More Takes

Win
Oct 7, 2024
#17469
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Flacco gives the Colts their best chance to win over Anthony Richardson

You gotta say that Flacco gives you your best chance [to win]... Flacco's the best. And it's so much fun watching him.

Statistically, the Colts offense moved better under Flacco in 2024, leading to Shane Steichen briefly benching Richardson for Flacco later in the season.
Void
Oct 7, 2024
#17464
Big CatBig Cat

Gervon Dexter is better than Jalen Carter

Are we ready to have the conversation that Gervon Dexter's better than Jalen Carter? We who has significantly better stats than Jalen Carter. I'm just wondering if you want to have that conversation now.

While Dexter had a strong start to 2024, Jalen Carter is widely considered the superior prospect and player by scouts and most metrics.
Win
Oct 7, 2024
#17466
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Hammer the Rams to beat the Vikings on October 24th

Hammer the Rams hammer the Rams on October 24th... that might be one like Cooper Kupp's back, Puka... hammer 'em.

The Rams beat the Vikings 30-20 on October 24, 2024, making this a perfectly correct prediction.
Loss
Oct 7, 2024
#17470
MemesMemes

The Jets will go 3-0 in their next three games

I think we have a good chance to go... three and oh [against the Bills, Steelers, and Patriots].

The Jets lost to the Bills (23-20) and Steelers (37-15) in their very next games.
Push
Oct 7, 2024·Who's Back
#17468
HankHank

Bronny James is not an NBA-caliber player

Bronny James... he's not an NBA player. It's not going well... everything he was doing was bad. Really, really bad.

Bronny spent most of his rookie season in the G-League after struggling significantly in limited NBA minutes, supporting the idea he wasn't ready.

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