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NFL Week 8, Fastest 2 Minutes, Deion Sanders, And The Bears Suck

Monday, November 2, 202017 takes

NFL Week 8 and Fastest 2 Minutes ( - ). Raiders/Browns - Titans/Bengals - Patriots/Bills - Colts/Lions - Vikings/Packers - Steelers/Ravens - Rams/Dolphins - Jets/Chiefs - Chargers/Broncos - Niners/Seahawks - ) Saints/Bears - ) Deion Sanders joins the show to talk Week 8 and we finish with football guy of the week and who's back of the week .

Deion Sanders on NFL Week 8, the Bears' Offensive Meltdown, and the Bills' Gauntlet

The Fastest Two Minutes and the Ben DiNucci Experience

Week 8 kicked off with a tribute to daylight savings and the terrifying realization that we are halfway through the NFL season. PFT and Big Cat delivered an elite Fastest 2 Minutes, featuring Jared Fogle Golf, Cookie Monster gobbling up yards in Green Bay, and the debut of the Ben DiNucci era in Philadelphia. Watching Gucci DiNucci try to throw a sidearm curveball on national television was a spiritual experience, but it led to an interesting theory from Big Cat about the Dallas defense.

Push
Nov 2, 2020
#15947
Big CatBig Cat

The Cowboys' defense plays better when they have a backup quarterback like Ben DiNucci

It turns out that in a weird way is kind of good having a shitty quarterback playing because your defense gets this mindset of like we have to create turnovers, we have to stop everybody. Whereas before they're like, oh we got Dak, he's gonna throw for a million yards, I can take a couple plays off here.

The Cowboys defense did improve statistically in some games post-Dak, but it was largely a historically bad unit regardless of the QB.

The Browns are Graupel Proof and the Titans are Frauds

In a game played in something called "graupel"—a mix of sleet, hail, and pure misery—the Raiders managed to out-man the Browns in Cleveland. Despite the loss, Big Cat isn't jumping off the Cleveland bandwagon just yet. He’s looking at their upcoming schedule against the Texans, Eagles, and Jaguars and seeing a clear path to January.

Win
Nov 2, 2020
#15948
Big CatBig Cat

I'm 90% sure the Cleveland Browns are going to make the playoffs

I'm pretty sure in part that the Cleveland Browns are going to make the playoffs. Yeah. No, I agree. I'm like, 90% sure that the Browns are going to be a playoff team this year and that's going to be a lot of fun.

The Browns finished 11-5 and made the playoffs in 2020.

Meanwhile, the Titans got absolutely whacked by Joe Burrow and a Bengals offensive line made of backup parts. PFT has officially seen enough of the Ryan Tannehill experiment to declare Tennessee a team built on a foundation of lies.

Push
Nov 2, 2020
#15949
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Tennessee Titans are a fraudulent football team

I'm going to use the F-word on the Titans. I think the Titans where a fraudulent football... I think they're fun when they were five and oh I was saying I don't think they're real because Ryan Tannehill, we should always stick with our gut on Ryan Tannehill.

The Titans finished 11-5 and won the division, but were eliminated in the Wild Card round, lending some weight to the idea they weren't elite contenders.

Belichick’s Masterclass and the Soft Packers

The Patriots lost their fourth straight game, but Big Cat and PFT are convinced that Bill Belichick actually did his best coaching work with a roster that is held together by Band-Aids and duct tape. They expect the media to spend the week praising a loss because of how close the game stayed.

Void
Nov 2, 2020
#15950
Big CatBig Cat

The Patriots vs. Bills game was one of the best games Bill Belichick has ever coached

That's actually here's ready for this one. That's one of the best games Bill Belichick's ever coached you like that was a wonderful game... because their roster sucks so bad and the fact that they were within three points.

This is entirely subjective, though few would rank a regular-season loss over his Super Bowl wins or defensive masterpieces.

Up in Green Bay, the Packers fell victim to their annual daylight savings curse. Dalvin cook shredded them for four touchdowns, and the guys are starting to worry that this team is just too soft to win when the weather turns. They predict a familiar cycle of hope followed by a soul-crushing exit.

Win
Nov 2, 2020
#15951
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Green Bay Packers have a soft defense

Aaron Rodgers playing great this year but similar to last year would you say the Packers might be a little a tad bit soft and say their defense might be a little soft... They are one of the last are going to just destroy some hearts they because they will get they're going to end up with a record like 12 and 4. Hmm. And Aaron Rodgers is going to be cooking at the end of the season. He's going to win a playoff game and he is going to break everybody's heart.

The Packers went 13-3 and lost at home in the NFC Championship to the more physical Buccaneers. The prediction about breaking hearts was very accurate.
Push
Nov 2, 2020
#26050
Big CatBig Cat

The Packers will finish 12-4 and win a playoff game just to break everyone's heart in January

The Packers are an excellent team to root for this year if you're really really trying to get your heart broken in early January. They are going to end up with a record like 12 and 4. And Aaron Rodgers is going to be cooking at the end of the season, he's going to win a playoff game, and he is going to break everybody's heart.

The Packers finished 13-3 (very close to 12-4), won a divisional round game against the Rams, and then lost a heartbreaking NFC Championship Game to the Buccaneers at home.

Lamar Jackson and the Fraudulent Ravens

The biggest game of the week saw the Steelers move to 7-0 while the Ravens struggled to move the ball through the air. Big Cat is doubling down on his stance that until Lamar can win a game with his arm against an elite defense, the Ravens cannot be taken seriously as Super Bowl contenders.

Push
Nov 2, 2020
#15952
Big CatBig Cat

The Baltimore Ravens are frauds because Lamar Jackson can't throw consistently against elite teams

As I've thought from day one when I've started the Ravens are frauds and again, it's not that they're bad team. There are very very good team when I say the word fraud I'm doing it because because they have Championship aspirations... until I see it from Lamar Jackson in terms of passing the ball consistently... the NFL like to be in Upper Echelon team, you have to your quarterback has to be able to throw have that type of game.

Lamar won his first playoff game this season but was then held to 3 points in a loss to the Bills, largely supporting the passing criticism at that time.

Coach Prime joined the show to weigh in on the quarterback landscape. While everyone is falling in love with Justin Herbert’s arm and Drew Lock’s dancing, Deion is sticking with the veteran in the AFC West.

Loss
Nov 2, 2020
#15956
Deion SandersDeion Sanders

I would take Derek Carr over Justin Herbert or Drew Lock right now

Between those three quarterbacks... Derek Carr, Herbert and then Drew Lock. I'll take Carr because I know what I'm gonna get. I don't know what those other guys gonna do. I'll take Carr.

Herbert had an all-time great rookie season and immediately surpassed Carr in most experts' rankings within months.

A Bears Funeral and Future Projections

The Bears game was a masterclass in pain. Between Javon Wims punching a man wearing a helmet and Matt Nagy’s baffling decision to run a hard count on 4th and 2 from his own 16-yard line, Big Cat is at his breaking point. He’s convinced Nagy is trying to be too smart for his own good.

Void
Nov 2, 2020
#15954
Big CatBig Cat

Matt Nagy has an extremely low football IQ

I feel bad for Matt Nagy because in his head he was doing something insanely smart... So that is something that a smart person would do. So his idea of what a smart person is is so far from actually being what a smart person really is. That I don't think it's his fault. I think he's I think he's just got extremely low IQ.

Subjective, though Nagy was eventually fired and his tenure is remembered for exactly these types of over-complicated failures.

With Nick Foles looking like he’s playing in slow motion, the guys are unironically calling for a return to the Mitchell Trubisky era just to see a quarterback move his legs again.

Void
Nov 2, 2020
#26053
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears should go back to Mitchell Trubisky because Nick Foles isn't playing any better

I think they should go back to Mitch. Yes, because Mitch at least can use his feet. I don't think Nick Foles is playing right now, Nick Foles is not playing better than what Mitch Trubisky was. Plus if you keep switching quarterbacks, you keep getting that spark.

This is a subjective opinion on team management, though the Bears did eventually return to Trubisky as the starter later in the season.

To wrap things up, Big Cat is already eyeing the NBA title for the Brooklyn Nets after they hired half of the 2005 Phoenix Suns to their coaching staff. It’s the ultimate "seven seconds or less" reunion.

Loss
Nov 2, 2020·Who's Back
#26054
Big CatBig Cat

The Brooklyn Nets are going to win the NBA Championship with their new coaching staff

The Nets are going to win the championship. How do they not? They signed Mike D'Antoni as an assistant, Amar'e Stoudemire. This also just has the makings of like a Hollywood movie ending where it's like these guys revolutionized basketball, they never won a title together and now they've won a title together.

The 2020-21 Nets lost in the Eastern Conference Semifinals to the Milwaukee Bucks in seven games.

Hopefully, the Bears find a way to score ten points before the 2021 season begins.

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More Takes

Win
Nov 2, 2020
#15953
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Dolphins went to Tua Tagovailoa too early

I think that Fitzpatrick should be starting right now. I think they went to Tua too early. Not because now he played like I could give a shit how to play today. He didn't get hurt, which is great... I still think that Fitzpatrick like if you're actually going to be maybe a playoff team why not just stick with Fitzpatrick and see where this goes because every he gives you I think a better chance to win most games.

The Dolphins finished 10-6 but missed the playoffs. Brian Flores famously benched Tua for Fitzpatrick in multiple games to win, suggesting PFT's view on 'chance to win now' was shared by the coach.
Void
Nov 2, 2020
#26052
Big CatBig Cat

The Los Angeles Chargers are officially a sadder franchise than the Atlanta Falcons

Chargers are sadder than the Falcons. Of course the Falcons obviously had 28-3 in the Super Bowl, but the Chargers... 38 of their 49 losses [since 2015] are one-score losses. That's insane. It's mind-boggling how they're able to do this. I think we've been talking about them and how weird and heartbreaking their losses are... they're like the English national team, essentially just finding new ways to lose games.

This is an inherently subjective comparison of fan misery, though the Chargers' penchant for one-score losses continued for years.
Win
Nov 2, 2020
#26051
Big CatBig Cat

The 49ers are about to get 'schedule fucked' by an upcoming hallway of death

The 49ers have a tough stretch coming up. They have the Packers, Saints, Rams, Bills... that hallway of death is going to tell us what they are. I think the 49ers are about to get schedule fucked. They have not had a tough schedule up to this point, but they are about to have a fucking really tough schedule.

The 49ers went 1-3 over those next four games, losing to the Packers, Saints, and Bills, effectively ending their playoff hopes.
Win
Nov 2, 2020
#15955
Deion SandersDeion Sanders

The Ravens are not a team that can throw the ball when expected to

These guys are not a one-dimensional team that can throw the ball when expected. They're not like that. The only way they're have success throwing the ball is the objective of run... and they didn't have that today.

This became the blueprint for beating the Ravens for several seasons until Lamar's MVP year under Todd Monken.
Loss
Nov 2, 2020·Who's Back
#15957
Big CatBig Cat

The Jim Harbaugh era at Michigan is officially over

The knives are back out for Jim Harbaugh... I just all I'm saying is I think it's over. I really do. 24 and a half Point favorites against Michigan State... and they lose like that... I think this is actually might be close to the end for Harbaugh.

Harbaugh remained at Michigan for three more seasons, winning three Big Ten Championships and the 2023 National Championship before departing for the NFL.
Void
Nov 2, 2020·Who's Back
#15958
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James calling DK Metcalf 'Baby Bron' is the lamest thing ever

How come we didn't talk about this earlier? DK? LeBron James posting a story on his Instagram referring to DK Metcalf as baby Bron. Lamest thing ever. This guy's really good. He's baby Bron? I would be so pissed off if I was DK Metcalf.

Subjective take on a social media post.

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