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Chris BoshChris Bosh

The Spurs intentionally turned off the AC during Game 1 of the 2014 NBA Finals

[Big Cat]: Do you think the Spurs intentionally turned off the AC in that final? [Bosh]: Absolutely. Of course. That's like Red Auerbach was known. If you're in Boston, the fire things that come off or whatever... I mean, he never denied it, right? But yeah, if I'm them, I'm trying to win.

The Spurs officially attributed it to an electrical failure. While widely speculated by fans, it has never been proven as intentional.

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Take Slip·Sep 18, 2019
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Eli Manning's career outside of his two Super Bowl runs was remarkably average

A remarkably average career outside of those two. If you can spend your entire career... 15 years. If you can go exactly 500 after 15 years of playing football, that's super impressive. It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Average.

Eli Manning finished his career with a exactly .500 regular season record (117-117), supporting PFT's claim of 'remarkable' averageness.
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Take Slip·Sep 18, 2019
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Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer because Super Bowl wins carry the most weight

The Super Bowl carries so much weight that I am totally fine with Eli Manning definitely being in the Hall of Fame because of those two runs. And they were incredible runs.

Big Cat said Eli Manning is 'definitely' a Hall of Famer due to his Super Bowl wins. Manning hasn't been inducted yet (missed the 2025 class) but is a 2026 finalist and will likely get in eventually. The prediction appears to be correct in direction but the 'definitely' undersold the debate.
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Take Slip·Sep 18, 2019
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Lorenzo Neal should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

Lorenzo Neal, eligible for the Hall of Fame. Go vote for Lorenzo Neal right now. It's been like 10, 15 years since we've had a real fullback get in. Lorenzo Neal should fucking be in the Hall of Fame.

Lorenzo Neal has not been inducted into the Hall of Fame as of 2024.

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Chris BoshChris Bosh

It is harder to stay at the top than to reach it in professional sports

It's always easy to have the hunger before you get it... But then when you are successful, in our case, when an NBA championship, you know, you understand what it takes to be able to stay at that level. And it's not easy... Now you're not the hunter anymore. You're the hunted.

Standard elite athlete philosophy.
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Chris BoshChris Bosh

NBA players leave the bench early to shave time off post-game recovery and travel

Being a vet, former vet, knowing the thing, they wanted to get the treatment because he put in his head... It takes 30, 40 minutes, 45 minutes, and this is after a game, if not an hour. And so he's got to shower. He's got to change. He's got media obligations... and they still have to get on the plane and go back to L.A. Just trying to trim down those minutes.

Bosh is explaining the logistical reality for aging stars in the NBA.
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Super teams have always been a part of the NBA

Super teams have always been a part of the league. You know, in the 80s, Showtime, the Lakers, Robert Parrish, Larry Bird, you know, Kevin McHale. I always tell people, the Lakers had Ron Harper. Ron Harper won five championships. They don't even mention Ron Harper.

While the method of formation (free agency vs. trades/draft) changed, the existence of teams with multiple Hall of Famers is a historical fact in the NBA.