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Chris Bosh, Eli Benched, Big Ben Hurt, And Guys On Chicks

Wednesday, September 18, 201920 takes

All of our 2004 Draft heroes are dead. Big Ben is out for the year and Eli Manning has been benched for Daniel Jones. (-) The Jets need a quarterback and we have some ideas. (-) Hot Seat/Cool Throne. (-) Future Hall of Famer Chris Bosh joins the show to talk about his career, playing on Lebron's team, adapting his role, the famous car commercial, and ray allen tweet. (-) Segments include connect the dots Mort is tweeting out rats, (-) PMT Sports Biz minute, (-) Mike tomlin quote generator,(-) and guys on chicks. (-)

Chris Bosh on the Big Three, LeBron's Dense Muscles, and Eli Manning’s Funeral

Our heroes are dead. Big Ben is out for the year getting elbow surgery, and the Giants finally pulled the plug on Eli Manning, benching our sweet boy for Daniel Jones. It feels like the end of an era for the 2004 Draft class, leaving us with only Philip Rivers and Matt Schaub to carry the torch. While the world debates the Hall of Fame, PFT and Big Cat have some different perspectives on the Manning legacy.

Win
Sep 18, 2019
#15493
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Going exactly .500 over a 15-year career like Eli Manning is actually very impressive

A remarkably average career outside of those two [Super Bowls]. If you can spend your entire career... he's been in the league for 15 years. If you can go exactly .500 after 15 years of playing football, that's super impressive. If you can keep any job and be perfectly average at it for that long, then you're doing something right.

Eli Manning finished his career with exactly a 117-117 record in the regular season.
Push
Sep 18, 2019
#15490
Big CatBig Cat

Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer because Super Bowl wins carry the most weight

The Super Bowl carries so much weight that I am totally fine with Eli Manning definitely being in the Hall of Fame because of those two runs. And they were incredible runs.

Big Cat said Eli Manning is 'definitely' a Hall of Famer due to his Super Bowl wins. Manning hasn't been inducted yet (missed the 2025 class) but is a 2026 finalist and will likely get in eventually. The prediction appears to be correct in direction but the 'definitely' undersold the debate.

Big Cat isn't ready to say goodbye to Eli just yet, mostly because he thrives on the chaos of a potential late-season backup appearance.

Win
Sep 18, 2019
#15495
Big CatBig Cat

Eli Manning will play again this season after Daniel Jones gets hurt

He's going to play again this year. Daniel Jones is going to get hurt, and Eli Manning is going to come in and win the Giants a meaningless game.

Eli Manning did play again in 2019 after Daniel Jones suffered a high ankle sprain in Week 13. Eli started two games (Weeks 14 and 15), winning the second against the Dolphins.

Meanwhile, the Jets are in a state of absolute disaster after losing Sam Darnold to mono and Trevor Siemian to a gruesome ankle injury on Monday Night Football. Big Cat is already calling it a wrap on the season for Gang Green, despite the "dynasty" comparisons some are making between Luke Falk and Tom Brady.

Win
Sep 18, 2019
#15497
Big CatBig Cat

The Jets' season is already over after Sam Darnold's mono diagnosis and Trevor Siemian's injury

The point is the Jets' season is over. Luke Falk is not going to be the guy. I would assume he's not going to be the guy.

The Jets started 0-4 and finished 7-9, missing the playoffs.

Future Hall of Famer Chris Bosh

Future Hall of Famer Chris Bosh joined Big Cat and PFT in studio to talk about his legendary career, the Miami Heat days, and his many off-court interests. He walked us through the infamous "Seven Championships" celebration and the pressure of playing with LeBron James. Bosh was refreshingly honest about the reality of NBA super teams and the fact that he was much closer to being a Chicago Bull than anyone realized.

Win
Sep 18, 2019
#21857
Chris BoshChris Bosh

I was very close to signing with the Chicago Bulls in 2010

I'm a Bulls fan. Chicago... You guys have said in retrospect that you were thinking about it... [Bosh]: It was very, very close. Yeah, man. Look, they had Joakim [Noah], young Derrick Rose, which he won MVP that year. Luol Deng, Kirk Hinrich... It was very, and then their thing was two of three.

This is a historical fact claim about his own free agency process.
Win
Sep 18, 2019
#15511
Chris BoshChris Bosh

Super teams have always been a part of the NBA

Super teams have always been a part of the league. You know, in the 80s, Showtime, the Lakers, Robert Parrish, Larry Bird, you know, Kevin McHale. I always tell people, the Lakers had Ron Harper. Ron Harper won five championships. They don't even mention Ron Harper.

While the method of formation (free agency vs. trades/draft) changed, the existence of teams with multiple Hall of Famers is a historical fact in the NBA.

We also got the scoop on some of the most iconic moments in Heat history, including the Ray Allen shot and the "AC Game" in San Antonio. Bosh didn't mince words when asked if he thought the Spurs rigged the temperature to slow down the Heat.

Void
Sep 18, 2019
#15513
Chris BoshChris Bosh

The Spurs intentionally turned off the AC during Game 1 of the 2014 NBA Finals

[Big Cat]: Do you think the Spurs intentionally turned off the AC in that final? [Bosh]: Absolutely. Of course. That's like Red Auerbach was known. If you're in Boston, the fire things that come off or whatever... I mean, he never denied it, right? But yeah, if I'm them, I'm trying to win.

The Spurs officially attributed it to an electrical failure. While widely speculated by fans, it has never been proven as intentional.
Win
Sep 18, 2019
#15515
Chris BoshChris Bosh

LeBron James cramps more than people realize because his muscles are so dense

I knew Brian [LeBron] was going to cramp, though. Yeah, because his muscles are so dense. He cramps, like, more than you think, you know, because he's so big.

Cramping is a known recurring issue for LeBron (e.g., 2012 and 2014 Finals), and Bosh's insight as a teammate is considered credible.

Before letting him go, we had to settle the Harry Potter house debate. While PFT admitted to never reading the books, Bosh was quick to sort his former teammates. It turns out LeBron might be more of a snake than we thought, but in the "good" way.

Void
Sep 18, 2019
#21858
Chris BoshChris Bosh

LeBron James is a 'good' Slytherin

[PFT Commenter]: If you were to put you, LeBron, and D-Wade into houses in Harry Potter... [Bosh]: LeBron is Slytherin. But he's the good Slytherin.

Harry Potter house sorting is purely subjective.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hot Seat: Jalen Ramsey. Between demanding a trade and having "God" as his agent, Ramsey is the biggest story in the NFL right now. Big Cat thinks the Jags would be insane to let him walk, but he still expects to see him on the field this week.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Jalen Ramsey will definitely play in Thursday night's game against the Titans

He will play in Thursday night's game. I'm going to put a guarantee. If he gets traded? Yeah. Because he'll get traded to the Titans.

Jalen Ramsey did play for the Jaguars in their Thursday night win over the Titans on September 19, 2019, before being traded to the Rams weeks later.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

The Jaguars would be crazy to trade Jalen Ramsey

I think the Jaguars would be crazy to trade him. Crazy. I mean, he's really, really good. Really, really good.

Subjective opinion on team management.

Cool Throne: Mike Leach. The Pirate is back on his game, triggering the entire OCD community with an off-center tweet and then telling everyone to read his feed at their own risk. He’s moving into the meme world at the perfect time.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Leach will definitely get involved in the political meme wars of 2020

He's just getting into the meme game. He's just getting into it and watch out world. He's going to as soon as he catches up... he definitely will be in the political meme wars of 2020. He's going to throw his hat in that ring. Absolutely.

Mike Leach continued to be controversial on Twitter, including a high-profile incident in 2020 involving a 'noose' meme that led to significant backlash.

We wrapped up the show with Guys on Chicks, featuring a woman concerned about her boyfriend wearing the exact same "dress-up" outfit every time they visit her parents. Big Cat stood up for the guy, noting that if the play works, you keep running it.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

If a man finds an outfit that works, he should wear it every time

If you're a guy and you find something that works, you run that play until it doesn't work anymore. He got a girlfriend who feels secure enough in the relationship to introduce him to her family. That shit's working.

Subjective lifestyle advice.

Stay safe out there, unless you're a Postmates driver stealing Lizzo's food.

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Loss
Sep 18, 2019
#15494
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Lorenzo Neal should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

Lorenzo Neal, eligible for the Hall of Fame. Go vote for Lorenzo Neal right now. It's been like 10, 15 years since we've had a real fullback get in. Lorenzo Neal should fucking be in the Hall of Fame.

Lorenzo Neal has not been inducted into the Hall of Fame as of 2024.
Loss
Sep 18, 2019
#21856
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Patriots should trade for Eli Manning just to keep him away from other teams

As a big Patriots fan, I think that we should trade for Eli Manning and just stash him. So that no other team can get him because he's the one guy that's proven that he can beat an undefeated Patriots team in the Super Bowl. So take that off the board entirely.

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The Patriots did not trade for Eli Manning, and Eli retired at the end of the season.
Win
Sep 18, 2019
#21855
Big CatBig Cat

I love the Steelers trading a first-round pick for Minkah Fitzpatrick

The Steelers traded a first-round pick for Minkah Fitzpatrick, which I actually love, by the way. People were like, 'The Steelers, this is going to be a top-ten pick they traded.' You're trading for a guy who was just drafted 11, and you have tape on him.

The trade turned out to be excellent for the Steelers; Minkah Fitzpatrick became a First-Team All-Pro in his first season with Pittsburgh (2019) and several times after.
Win
Sep 18, 2019
#21859
Big CatBig Cat

Adam Gase is only considered 'nice' because he was around Peyton Manning for a brief period

Adam Gase is the perfect case of just get yourself around someone who's really good at their job once in your career and you're set. He was around Peyton Manning. They broke all the records. And now everyone since that point has been like, 'Adam Gase, kind of nice. Rub some of that magic off on me.'

Gase's tenure with the Jets (and later career) largely validated this take as he failed to replicate his Denver success without Peyton.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Complaining on Twitter about your food being stolen is a dickhead move

I'm blaming her [Lizzo] for complaining online about it because that's a dickhead thing to do. As a fellow curvy person, you never want to tweet about your food not being there... I feel like you're just setting yourself up to get dunked on.

This is a subjective moral/etiquette take.
Win
Sep 18, 2019
#15517
Big CatBig Cat

Space Jam 2 is going to suck

He's [LeBron] doing Space Jam 2, man. It's going to suck. Yeah, for sure. He'll ruin it.

Space Jam: A New Legacy (2021) received generally negative reviews from critics (25% on Rotten Tomatoes) and many fans, widely considered inferior to the original.
Win
Jake MarshJake Marsh

Chris Bosh earned over $31,000 for every rebound in his NBA career

Chris Bosh totaled 7,592 boards, and on the court, he earned $239,063,622. Do the math. Bam. That's more than 31 grand per rebound. Not too shabby.

The math checks out based on reported career earnings ($242M total, around $239M on-court) and career rebounds (7,592).

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