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Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer because Super Bowl wins carry the most weight

The Super Bowl carries so much weight that I am totally fine with Eli Manning definitely being in the Hall of Fame because of those two runs. And they were incredible runs.

Big Cat said Eli Manning is 'definitely' a Hall of Famer due to his Super Bowl wins. Manning hasn't been inducted yet (missed the 2025 class) but is a 2026 finalist and will likely get in eventually. The prediction appears to be correct in direction but the 'definitely' undersold the debate.

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Win
Sep 18, 2019
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Going exactly .500 over a 15-year career like Eli Manning is actually very impressive

A remarkably average career outside of those two [Super Bowls]. If you can spend your entire career... he's been in the league for 15 years. If you can go exactly .500 after 15 years of playing football, that's super impressive. If you can keep any job and be perfectly average at it for that long, then you're doing something right.

Eli Manning finished his career with exactly a 117-117 record in the regular season.
Loss
Sep 18, 2019
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Lorenzo Neal should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

Lorenzo Neal, eligible for the Hall of Fame. Go vote for Lorenzo Neal right now. It's been like 10, 15 years since we've had a real fullback get in. Lorenzo Neal should fucking be in the Hall of Fame.

Lorenzo Neal has not been inducted into the Hall of Fame as of 2024.
Win
Sep 18, 2019
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Eli Manning will play again this season after Daniel Jones gets hurt

He's going to play again this year. Daniel Jones is going to get hurt, and Eli Manning is going to come in and win the Giants a meaningless game.

Eli Manning did play again in 2019 after Daniel Jones suffered a high ankle sprain in Week 13. Eli started two games (Weeks 14 and 15), winning the second against the Dolphins.

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The goal allowed by the US goalie was the most embarrassing possible

What about the goalie? Yeah, I mean he... that was the most embarrassing goal that I've ever seen. Possible.

While subjective, the blunder by the US goalkeeper (Freeze/Turner) was widely mocked as a 'MAC football' level mistake.
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The USMNT is the 'James Franklin Penn State' of soccer

People were making very mean jokes online that we were James Franklin, Penn State. And it is actually perfectly appropriate because if you look at who we played, we beat the teams we're supposed to beat... and then we absolutely got ass fucked by the team that was better than us in Belgium. We are not who we thought we were.

Subjective comparison.
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We just suck at soccer as a country and that's okay

My take is we suck at soccer and that's okay. Like, I don't care that we suck at soccer anymore. I'm going to root for the US team. I'm gonna get excited when we're in a World Cup. I'm gonna get hyped up and it's gonna be fun to watch. And then I'm gonna be reminded that we suck at soccer and that it's just gonna be like, okay, yeah, that's okay.

Subjective perspective on American soccer.