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Take Slip·May 31, 2017
#PMT-2017-0531-1523
Tom CreanTom Crean

Dwyane Wade and Victor Oladipo are the best and most versatile players I've coached

The best guys – were the most versatile guys because they made everybody else better. And I think the thing about a guy like Dwyane Wade, the thing about a kid like Victor [Oladipo], Jerel McNeal and Wes Matthews were like this for us at Marquette. Those guys didn't have to score and they didn't have to be making shots to have their presence felt in a big way.

This is a subjective expert opinion from the coach who trained them.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2017
#PMT-2017-0531-1524
Tom CreanTom Crean

LeBron James is in a unique ballpark of basketball intelligence

Dwyane said this about LeBron. Dwyane is very smart, incredibly smart player... Dwyane said, I'm smart. He said, I know I'm smart. I'm not even in the same ballpark as this guy. And he's pointing at LeBron in the sense of how smart he is on the court... LeBron's in a very, very unique place for his mindset.

Widespread consensus among players and analysts supports LeBron's elite IQ.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2017
#PMT-2017-0531-1527
Tom CreanTom Crean

Lonzo Ball is one of the most prolific passers and has incredible vision

I reserve judgment on any of that other than that he is one of the most prolific passers and has incredible vision. I don't think there's very many guys that have come across in a period of time like that.

Consensus scouting reports and his subsequent NBA career confirmed Lonzo as an elite-level passer.
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Take Slip·May 30, 2017·Picks
#PMT-2017-0530-16850
HankHank

The Warriors will sweep the Cavaliers in the 2017 NBA Finals

I got Warriors in four.

The Warriors won the series 4-1. The Cavs won Game 4.
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Take Slip·May 30, 2017·Picks
#PMT-2017-0530-16851
Big CatBig Cat

The Warriors will beat the Cavaliers in five games in the 2017 NBA Finals

My pick is Warriors in five.

The Golden State Warriors won the 2017 NBA Finals 4-1 over the Cleveland Cavaliers.
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Take Slip·May 30, 2017·Picks
#PMT-2017-0530-16852
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cavaliers will beat the Warriors in seven games in the 2017 NBA Finals

I got Cavs in seven.

The Cavs lost the series 4-1.
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Take Slip·May 30, 2017·Picks
#PMT-2017-0530-16853
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is maybe better than Michael Jordan

And LeBron James... better than Michael Jordan, maybe. Tune into FS1, Colin Cowherd will tell you about it for the next four hours.

The GOAT debate is inherently subjective.
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0526-15480
Big CatBig Cat

The Cavs-Warriors rubber match is the NBA Finals we need

It is the Cavs, Warriors, the finals everyone wants to see, the finals we need. It's the rubber match.

The 2017 Finals did indeed feature the Cavs and Warriors, completing their third consecutive meeting (the rubber match).
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0526-15482
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron's 7 straight finals don't count because they were in the East

Asterix, asterix. They're all against the East. True. So let's not crown them just yet.

While LeBron did play in the East, 7 straight finals is historically unique; the take is a subjective value judgment.
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0526-15484
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James threw Game 3 against the Celtics to help the Celtics' ticket sales

LeBron James threw Game 3 just so that all of Boston had to buy tickets for Game 5 so that he could buttfuck them in public.

This is a conspiratorial interpretation of a single game loss; it's practically impossible to prove but LeBron did go on to destroy Boston in Game 5.
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0526-15487
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 2017 Finals will be the best coached series ever because of Ty Lue and Mike Brown

I think one thing we can all agree on is between Lou and Mike Brown, this is probably going to be the best coached NBA Finals of all time.

The 2017 Warriors were historically dominant, but few analysts would credit Mike Brown or Ty Lue with 'all-time' coaching performances over legendary tacticians.
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Take Slip·May 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0524-7572
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NBA is paying the refs

The NBA is paying the refs. The NBA actually always pays the refs. That's how they get paid. They're paying the refs.

The NBA does, in fact, pay its referees a salary.
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Take Slip·May 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0524-7574
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyrie Irving wouldn't have gotten off the bench for John Wooden in the 1960s

If [Kyrie Irving] played back in the 60s, he wouldn't have got off the bench on John Wooden's team. Dribbles between the legs too much. A little bit of a ball hog. A little bit of a flashy showboat. But I guess if you score points in today's day and age, that's all you need.

This is a subjective historical counterfactual used for comedic effect.
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Take Slip·May 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0524-7575
Big CatBig Cat

Dante Jones is the real coach of the Cavaliers

Tyronn Lue is obviously not really the coach of the team. He stands there in a suit. He's like a senator. The coach, Dante Jones, my former teammate. He has his three-point celebrations down so perfectly... He's the first one off the bench to high five. He's the coach.

Tyronn Lue was the official head coach and led them to the Finals that year.
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Take Slip·May 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0522-19442
Big CatBig Cat

Adam Silver texted LeBron James and told him to play bad for ratings and revenue

Did LeBron James get a text from Adam Silver being like, 'Hey, LeBron, all anyone can talk about is how the NBA Finals are nine days away after you sweep the Celtics. We're going to really need some more cash here, so could you just suck for an entire game and look totally disinterested?'

This is a satirical conspiracy theory that is factually incorrect regarding actual league mandates.
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Take Slip·May 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0522-19440
HankHank

The Celtics are in year five of a rebuild and are closing in on LeBron James' tail

We're in year five of a rebuild. We have the number one draft pick. We're in the Eastern Conference Finals. We're clearly coming up on LeBron [James]'s tail. As long as we can dominate LeBron in the beginning of his career and then dominate him on the way out, I can be content with that.

The Celtics did eventually reach the Finals after LeBron left the East, but at the time of the take, LeBron still won the series 4-1 and remained the dominant force in the East for another year.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0519-18215
Big CatBig Cat

Fans will get sick of the Cavaliers-Warriors NBA Finals preview within a week

We are all going to get so fucking sick of the Cavs-Warriors preview, because it's already starting. They're already previewing Cavs-Warriors, and then if both sides sweep... I think it's like seven days before the NBA Finals start. That's a shitload of previews.

The 2017 NBA Finals did feature the Cavs and Warriors after dominant playoff runs, leading to a massive, often repetitive media cycle.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0519-18216
Big CatBig Cat

I am officially off Greg Popovich because of how he treats the media

I'm off of him. I'm off of Pop. No, but it's picking up a little steam. Greg Popovich just being a dickhead to people while everyone says, wow, Pop tells it like it is. He's so funny. And then he says a long political statement without really saying anything. And everyone's like, man, Pop keeps it real.

This is a subjective opinion on Popovich's personality and media relations.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0519-18217
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant is staying under the radar but he is still a 'baby back bitch'

Not a lot of talk about Kevin Durant being a baby back bitch. Nobody says. He's under the radar right now. Just don't forget the sloucher, the Durantula, the servant... It's all falling in nicely for Kevin Durant, though. He's staying under the radar, so just keep your eye out.

Durant's reputation among certain fans remained negative following his move to Golden State, though he won the championship that year.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0519-18218
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is injury-prone and another injury might be coming

Yeah, I can see maybe an injury coming for Kevin Durant. He's injury-prone. It'll be a real shame.

Durant stayed healthy through the 2017 playoffs and finals, winning Finals MVP. However, he suffered a calf and Achilles injury in the 2019 playoffs.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0517-13675
Big CatBig Cat

Lonzo Ball is going to the Los Angeles Lakers

Lonzo Ball is going to the Los Angeles Lakers.

The Lakers selected Lonzo Ball with the second overall pick in the 2017 NBA Draft.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0517-13676
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The San Antonio Spurs are dead

And the San Antonio Spurs are dead. Dead. D-E-D. A-D. Dead. Manslaughtered, as Greg Popovich would say.

The Spurs were swept 4-0 by the Warriors in the 2017 Western Conference Finals and arguably entered a long period of decline.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0517-13677
HankHank

The Celtics have to draft Markelle Fultz with the number one pick

You gotta go with Fultz, you know, we, Celtics need another guard.

The Celtics traded the #1 pick to the 76ers, who drafted Fultz. The Celtics drafted Jayson Tatum at #3.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0517-13678
HankHank

The Celtics are obviously going to lose the series to the Cavaliers

We're obviously going to lose the series. That's a fact. I mean, Isaiah [Thomas], he got worked by the Washington guards. He's going to get worked by Kyrie [Irving].

The Cavaliers defeated the Celtics 4-1 in the 2017 Eastern Conference Finals.
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Coley MickColey Mick

Brad Stevens is coaching for his job because higher expectations follow the number one pick

My hot seat is Brad Stevens. We advance another round. It means he has at least four more games. He's coaching for his job out there. And the number one pick. That's higher expectations... Setting himself up to fail.

Brad Stevens remained the Celtics coach for four more seasons before being promoted to President of Basketball Operations.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0517-13683
Kareem Abdul-JabbarKareem Abdul-Jabbar

Banning the dunk ruined the game for basketball fans

I thought [the dunk being banned] was just made to deal with me... But no, it ruined the game for the fans. So that wasn't smart.

The rule was widely unpopular and eventually rescinded.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0517-13684
Kareem Abdul-JabbarKareem Abdul-Jabbar

LeVar Ball's exploitation of his son Lonzo is bothersome

I don't know what [Lonzo Ball] is all about up here because of his dad. His dad gives me the willies. Parents like that really bother me, just trying to exploit their kids like that.

This is a personal opinion on parenting and sports management.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017·PR 101
#PMT-2017-0517-13685
Big CatBig Cat

James Harden will definitely need PR 101 assistance again in the future

First up, we have a little PR 101 for James Harden, who I'm going to call my shot here. I think this isn't the last time we're going to have to do PR 101 for James Harden.

James Harden has had several PR-heavy moments since, including multiple messy trade requests from the Rockets, Nets, and 76ers.
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Big CatBig Cat

Four days is the maximum amount of rest a team can have before becoming rusty

Four days rest is right before you get that rust. So the Cavs are going to be very rusty. I think they've been off for like nine days.

The Cavs had 9 days of rest and proceeded to blow out the Celtics by 13 points in Game 1, showing no signs of rust.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0515-13620
Big CatBig Cat

The Warriors' championship will have an asterisk because they cheated by injuring Kawhi Leonard

The Warriors were dead, and then they decided to cheat and came back to life... I, for one, am very happy that this happened because now I'm ready to put an asterisk on the Warriors championship. Just like that. They had a cakewalk through the West. They ran into a hobbled Spurs team.

The Warriors did win the championship and went 16-1 in the playoffs. While the 'asterisk' is an opinion, they dominated regardless of Kawhi's injury.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0515-13621
Big CatBig Cat

The Celtics will get swept by the Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference Finals

[Hank], how are you feeling about the Celtics... Oh, no, you guys will get swept by the Cavs.

The Cavaliers won the series 4-1, not a sweep. Big Cat was close but technically incorrect.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0515-13622
Big CatBig Cat

I am sick of the internet's obsession with everything Greg Popovich does

I'm sick of Greg Popovich... It's the fact that everything he does, everyone says is incredible. Like Greg Popovich is a dick to a reporter. Oh, that's Greg Popovich. He's so funny. He tells it like it is... I hate how everything he does gets applauded by the internet.

This is an opinion about media/internet culture.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0515-13625
Mike ConleyMike Conley

The Spurs always successfully find the right veterans to fit their system

Actually, [the Spurs] are a team that just it's like a revolving door of talent. They always bring in the right pieces and the right guys to fit the system. And no matter how old or you might think they are, they might be getting guys that are on the tail end of their careers are still able to do and play at a high level.

This is a generally accepted truth about the Tim Duncan/Gregg Popovich era Spurs.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0515-13626
Mike ConleyMike Conley

Kevin Durant joining the Warriors didn't change the mindset because they were already the team to beat

When [Durant] went there, I think it surprised everybody... but it's the same mindset. You already knew Golden State was the team to beat, and now they're still the team to beat with Kevin Durant. So the mindset didn't change. It was how are we going to beat them.

This reflects the professional player perspective at the time.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0515-13627
Mike ConleyMike Conley

I know every NBA referee by name to build rapport and avoid technicals

I talk to all of them. Know them all by name... Go up to them before the game, say what's up.

Conley's reputation as one of the few players with virtually no technical fouls supports this claim.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Triple-doubles are actually a sign of a bad team and poor role players

20 of the 23 NBA players who recorded a triple-double have been eliminated from the playoffs. [PFT]: So, turns out triple doubles are actually bad. Really bad... These guys are jacks of all trade, masters of none. You need role players on your team.

Hot TakeBasketballHotSarcastic
The stat was true at the time, but the conclusion that triple-doubles are 'bad' is satirical and logically flawed.
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#PMT-2017-0512-7481
HankHank

I am not confident about the Celtics playing the Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference Finals

I'm not really going to act like I'm super confident about playing the Cavs.

The Cavaliers defeated the Celtics 4-1 in the 2017 Eastern Conference Finals.
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Big CatBig Cat

MJ is the greatest of all time

As much as I obviously don't want to get in the debate because I obviously everyone knows where I stand. MJ, greatest of all time.

This is a subjective sports debate with no definitive answer.
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#PMT-2017-0512-7485
Big CatBig Cat

Kobe Bryant is the greatest of all time

But I think to avoid this debate, the stance of this podcast is just going to be Kobe. We're just Kobe guys. Kobe is the greatest of all time. Just so we never have to debate this again.

While satirical, the GOAT debate is inherently subjective.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0510-6910
Big CatBig Cat

The Cavaliers and Warriors will meet in the 2017 NBA Finals

I think the Cavs and Warriors are going to play each other in the NBA Finals.

The Warriors and Cavaliers did face each other in the 2017 NBA Finals.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0510-6912
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NBA Eastern Conference is boring and predictable because of LeBron James

I haven't watched a single Eastern Conference game in full because it's so boring and it's so predictable and it's just going to be LeBron James ducking his head, driving to the hole... getting fouled, making the layup half the time, and the other time crying because he didn't get fouled.

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#PMT-2017-0510-6916
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Doc Rivers will be fired by the Los Angeles Clippers

My other hot seat is nepotism because I think that Doc Rivers is going to get fired.

Doc Rivers remained the head coach of the Clippers until September 2020.
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#PMT-2017-0510-6917
Big CatBig Cat

LeVar Ball will eventually replace Luke Walton as the Lakers' head coach

In about two years when LeVar Ball gets Luke Walton out as a Lakers coach and takes over as coach. That's going to be great.

LeVar Ball never coached the Lakers. Luke Walton was replaced by Frank Vogel in 2019.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0510-6918
Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

The San Antonio Spurs are a tougher matchup for the Warriors than the Houston Rockets

I can't not put my money on the Spurs. They're just like that team that always finds a way to get wins. Not saying they're going to win, but to get a win for sure, I think I'd have to go Spurs.

The Spurs advanced to play the Warriors in the WCF but were swept 4-0 (though Kawhi Leonard was injured in Game 1). The Rockets lost to the Spurs in the second round.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0510-6919
Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

The Cavaliers only won the 2016 NBA Finals because of Draymond Green's suspension and Andrew Bogut's injury

I really don't think Cleveland wins if Draymond doesn't get suspended and Bogut doesn't get hurt. So sometimes you've got to have, like, a little luck in the playoffs. Not to say that Cleveland didn't deserve to win. I think they did... But, I mean, it's just – you can't really decide, like, who's going to win the finals until you actually get to that point.

This is a common historical 'what-if' that cannot be definitively proven either way.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0510-6920
Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

The Washington Wizards are a tougher matchup for the Cavaliers than the Boston Celtics

If you were on the Cavs, which team would you less like to face... I'd say probably Wizards. John Wall is so tough in transition. Isaiah is great, but John Wall is just so tough in transition.

The Celtics beat the Wizards in 7 games and then lost to the Cavs in 5 games. We never saw the Wizards vs Cavs matchup in that postseason.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0510-6922
Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

Lonzo Ball will have a target on his back in the NBA because of LeVar Ball

Anybody that gets hyped up that much, if you're the number one pick or your top pick that's doing a lot of talking, you're going to have a little bit of a target on your back for sure... there's like that extra unneeded motivation that other guys will have now.

Lonzo Ball was notoriously targeted by veteran players (like Patrick Beverley) early in his rookie season due to his father's comments.
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Take Slip·May 8, 2017
#PMT-2017-0508-2615
Big CatBig Cat

The Raptors are a joke of a franchise

I got a little heat back from my take the other day that the Raptors are just a joke of a franchise. I don't mean it in a mean way. It's just facts are facts. When you think of the Raptors, you think of Vince Carter winning a dunk title and then getting swept.

The 2017 Raptors were swept by the Cavaliers. Until 2019, they were consistently 'LeBronto'd'.
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Take Slip·May 8, 2017
#PMT-2017-0508-2616
HankHank

The Celtics could beat the Cavaliers if LeBron James gets hurt

That's kind of what Hank said last week about the Celtics, that they could beat the Cavs if LeBron James got hurt. [Hank]: True.

LeBron remained healthy and the Cavs beat the Celtics 4-1 in the Eastern Conference Finals.
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Take Slip·May 8, 2017
#PMT-2017-0508-2617
Big CatBig Cat

The Rockets-Spurs series will go seven games

The Rockets-Spurs, it will go 6 or 7. It will go 7. I'm going to say it right now. It's going to go 7 because Hank's whole theory of teams only winning at home.

The series ended in 6 games with the Spurs winning.
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