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Take Slip·Jun 17, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

Steph Curry is the #2 point guard of all time and better than Magic Johnson

He's, I don't know where he's number two point guard of all time. And I guess you could probably make the argument now that like, people will probably argue that he's better than magic. I don't know. You know, I'm not an MBA historian, but he is number two all time.

Most historians still rank Magic #1 due to his dominance and Longevity, but Curry is almost universally ranked #2.
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Take Slip·Jun 15, 2022
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HankHank

The Celtics will still win the NBA Finals because they perform best when their backs are against the wall

I still think [the Celtics] are going to win the series. I do think that the last 10 minutes of game four and five, there was just some infuriating plays... But I do think that it's very relatable of the Celtics to just put everything off until the end... They're procrastinating. And then when their backs are against the wall, that's when they perform the best.

The Golden State Warriors won the 2022 NBA Finals in Game 6.
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Take Slip·Jun 15, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

Neither the Warriors nor the Celtics are truly great teams compared to historical NBA champions

Is there a chance that neither of these teams are that great? I keep thinking that one team's going to assert themselves one or the other. And it's like, both these teams are very good. I'm saying neither of these teams are like, great... whoever wins this, I'm not going to walk away and be like, that team was one of the best championship teams I've ever seen.

This is a subjective historical comparison that cannot be definitively proven.
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Take Slip·Jun 15, 2022
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HankHank

Any NBA team from the 1990s would die trying to defend the Golden State Warriors' movement and pick-and-rolls

Any team from the nineties that had to deal with the fucking pick and rolls and like the movement that the warriors do, like they would die. They would die. It's insane. The amount of they would be killed on the court... like NBA players didn't run. They didn't do a cardio in the nineties.

Subjective comparison between eras with different rules and physical training standards.
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Take Slip·Jun 13, 2022
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HankHank

Draymond Green is absolutely useless

My butthole is clenched. It was a very impressive performance from Steph Curry. He did everything for them. Clay Thompson, Draymond... I mean Clay played well, Draymond's absolutely useless.

Draymond Green struggled offensively in the 2022 Finals, specifically in Game 4 where he had 2 points and was benched during key stretches, though he contributed defensively to the eventual title win.
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Take Slip·Jun 13, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

Draymond Green is the new Ben Simmons

[Draymond Green] is Ben Simmons... Steve Kerr deserves a ton of credit... for having the balls to pull Draymond out of the fourth quarter. Draymond Green does not want to shoot. He is Ben Simmons at this point where it's like, he could have a completely open look going towards the basket and he will pass it up.

While both players are elite defenders and playmakers who struggle to shoot, Draymond has a much higher competitive motor and has won four rings, whereas Simmons' career stalled due to lack of confidence and injuries.
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Take Slip·Jun 13, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

The Celtics are still the better team than the Warriors

Hank's going to get mad at this comment, but I still think the Celtics are the better team. I mean, if you were looking for a bet after a loss, they've been undefeated these playoffs. You'd expect them to win on Monday.

The Warriors won Game 5 and Game 6 to win the series 4-2, proving they were the better team or at least had the better closer.
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Take Slip·Jun 13, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Steph Curry deserves the Finals MVP even if the Warriors lose

Our man Perk [Kendrick Perkins], carry the hell on, he said no matter what, win or lose, Steph Curry deserves this MVP. I'd be willing to trade in Billy not being vegan just for the ensuing takes that would come with Steph Curry winning the MVP and losing.

Steph Curry won the Finals MVP, but the Warriors also won the series, making the 'losing team' hypothetical moot.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2022
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Billy FootballBilly Football

Jayson Tatum did not have a good game in Game 3

Jayson Tatum once again did not have that good of a game. He played very good, but he's not giving MVP.

Subjective, but Tatum led the team in points and assists in a double-digit win.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2022
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HankHank

There will definitely be a Game 6 in the NBA Finals

I do think there will be a game six, unfortunately. Very scared about game four.

Correct. The series went to 6 games, with the Warriors winning in Boston.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

The Celtics are simply the better team and the Warriors cannot beat them

I have now like game three, show me that the best, the best version of the Celtics, the warriors can not be. I'm being honest. That's just my honest take on it.

Incorrect. The Warriors won the next three games in a row to win the series 4-2.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2022
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Kirk GoldsberryKirk Goldsberry

Jayson Tatum is the safer bet for Finals MVP

I'm going Jayson Tatum folks... I think Jayson Tatum is going to win the MVP because the Celtics are only, I don't want a series of Jayson Tatum has a few more good games and his passing in particular guys has been great... He's just slightly more complete and slightly more important to the Celtic success.

Incorrect. The Celtics lost the series, and Steph Curry won MVP. Even if they won, Jaylen Brown was often viewed as their most consistent player this series.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Steph Curry should win Finals MVP even if the Warriors lose the series

I'm hoping that we get a Celtic series win and Steph Curry gets his first finals MVP out of that. That would be the ultimate threading the needle.

Incorrect, as Curry won but his team also won the series.
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Take Slip·Jun 10, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

If the Celtics win the series 10 times, they win it 8 times

I think the Celtic surge is the only thing that can stop the self is this point of the Celtics, but they have to beat themselves... I would say if you play this series 10 times, the Celtics win it eight times.

The Warriors won 4-2, winning three straight after this take, suggesting the Warriors were actually the better team.
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Big CatBig Cat

The Warriors are dead

My fire Fest is obviously a, the warriors is dead. I truly believe that.

Incorrect. The Warriors won the title 4-2.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Boston Celtics are dead

The Boston Celtics are dead.

The Celtics were far from dead; they won Game 3 and took a 2-1 lead before eventually losing the series 4-2.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2022
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HankHank

The Celtics are the better team and will win the series if they execute

If [the Celtics] just have to execute and play their game, they're going to win the series. But I'm just worried... it feels like they are the better team similar to honestly the Heat series where it's like, they're the better team. So it almost makes it worse when games are close and they lose games.

The Celtics lost the series 4-2 to the Warriors, who proved to be the better, more experienced team.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Game 3 is a must-win for the Celtics

I feel like the Celtics have to win this game [Game 3]. If they lose this game, I think they're done.

The Celtics did win Game 3 but lost the series. His prediction that they would be 'done' if they lost was never tested because they won.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2022
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HankHank

The NBA clearly has an agenda to extend the Finals series

The NBA clearly has an agenda, like factor fiction. And the NBA would like this series to go more games than four... having the Warriors win tonight guarantees it goes more than four.

The series did go 6 games, which is the outcome the 'agenda' would have desired.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

Bronny James is already the #1 prospect on my draft board

Bronny [James], I see him. He's going to be an NBA superstar... We have a draft board and he's already number one.

Bronny James was not an NBA superstar upon entering the league; he was a late second-round pick (55th overall) in the 2024 NBA Draft and initially struggled in Summer League and limited minutes.
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Take Slip·Jun 6, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

Calling Steve Kerr overrated is the craziest take possible

It seems like there might be some, a group of people that think Steve Kerr's overrated, which is maybe the craziest take. That's one of those ones where it's like, we've all just we've exhausted every avenue of debate that we're now talking about Steve Kerr, who has, I think he has eight, eight rings total.

Steve Kerr won his 4th title as a coach (9th overall) later that month, further cementing his resume.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

The Golden State Warriors might be done after losing Game 1 to the Celtics

I actually believe that... the rest, you know, they're done. Yeah. They might be done. I think they might be done when they're done. I think they might be done. I really do think the way they lost this and the fact that the Celtics, like I know that they're their shot-making... what the Celtics can rely on and what they do better than anyone else is, they locked down on defense.

The Warriors were far from done; they won the series 4-2, winning three straight games to close it out.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Warriors are dead

I think right now it's too early to do the thing that we all want to do, which we kind of like, we dipped our toe in earlier and said the warriors are dead. Fuck it. I'm just going to say it after game one, the warriors are dead.

The Warriors won the championship, making this peak 'incorrect' in the funniest way possible.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2022
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Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Grant Williams is the key X-factor for the Celtics if the Warriors go small

I would say the two people... I mentioned Grant Williams, I think Grant Williams... he's going to be key because the Warriors just force everyone to play small... If he plays well, like he did in the Milwaukee series where he hit eight threes, 93, whatever it was, then, you know, Boston's going to be a problem.

Grant Williams struggled for much of the Finals, averaging only 5.2 points per game and losing minutes as the series progressed.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2022
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Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Milwaukee would have won the East and reached the Finals if Khris Middleton was healthy

I think that Milwaukee was the best team this year. If they would have had Middleton, they'd be in final right now.

While logically sound given the 7-game series, it's ultimately an unprovable hypothetical.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If Steph Curry wins Finals MVP, he is a better basketball player than LeBron James

If Steph Curry wins an NBA finals MVP this year, I'm ready to be the first person to [say] that he's better than LeBron James purely at basketball.

Steph won FMVP, but the majority of analysts still rank LeBron significantly higher all-time. It's an opinion.
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Take Slip·Jun 3, 2022
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Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

The Warriors will win the NBA Finals in 7 games with an overtime finale

I'm going to [say] warriors in seven in an overtime game seven. Wow.

The Warriors won in 6 games, not 7, and there was no overtime.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

The Celtics are a tough matchup for the Warriors in the NBA Finals

The Celtics who I think we all can agree were the better team in this series [vs Heat]... I think that going into this fight, I feel like the Celtics are pretty tough matchup for the warriors.

The Warriors won the series in 6 games, and Boston's offense struggled significantly with turnovers against the Warriors' defense.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

Jimmy Butler took the right shot at the end of Game 7

I saw some people being like, that's a bad shot. It's like, dude one, it it's wide open. You know, it's a wide open shot... I want him taking that shot. I have no pro—like I would like to go down swinging like that. If you're a heat fan being like Jimmy Butler, taking that shot, who cares about, you know, whether he's a good three point shooter or not, he just, I want him taking that shot.

Butler missed the shot and the Heat lost, making it factually unsuccessful, though the quality of the shot is a subjective debate.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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Jake MarshJake Marsh

The Heat would have won the series in 5 or 6 games if Jimmy Butler had any help

He's the only reason the series got to seven. He got drill help—if he got any help, the heat win the series in five or six.

Tyler Herro was injured and Bam Adebayo was inconsistent; it's a plausible hypothetical that can't be proven.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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HankHank

The Celtics will win the NBA Finals in six games

Celtics in six. God-willing I wasn't there Friday, but... Celtics in six.

The Celtics lost the series in 6 games to the Warriors.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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Billy FootballBilly Football

The Warriors will win the NBA Finals in six games

Warriors and six and I'm gonna eat a shit ton of meat in Boston.

The Warriors did win the 2022 NBA Finals in exactly six games.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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Jake MarshJake Marsh

The Warriors will win the NBA Finals in five games

Warriors in five.

The series went to 6 games, not 5.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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Stavros HalkiasStavros Halkias

Ime Udoka is the best at laying pipe among NBA coaches

You look at the Celtics Ime Udoka lays pipe better than any of these motherfuckers. Feels like he could spoil shit and he goes down. Yeah. She knows that he's not the whole package though.

While meant as a joke about physical presence, Udoka was suspended months later for an affair with a staff member, making this take legendary in retrospect.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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Stavros HalkiasStavros Halkias

Giannis Antetokounmpo is the best player in the NBA

Lately my best player in the NBA, best player in the NBA, works hard as fuck. Truly like he's younger than me, but an inspiration to me... Mr. Antetokounmpo, is there anything I can do for like truly a hero of mine?

A subjective ranking, but Giannis was First Team All-NBA and a top MVP candidate in 2022.
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Take Slip·May 31, 2022
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Stavros HalkiasStavros Halkias

The Celtics' 2022 Finals run has a 'Middleton Asterisk'

Boston's bitch ass. Getting lucky with middle the middle. What? I'm calling the Middleton asterisk, which I will not allow them to enjoy this championship. Should it happen? And it won't.

The Bucks lost to the Celtics in 7 games without their second-best player; whether it's an 'asterisk' is purely opinion.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

Returning to the NBA Finals is the crowning achievement for the Warriors' core

This feels like the crowning achievement for this group, to be able to go back there [the NBA Finals] after all the injuries, after KD came and left after guys are in and out and they've rebuilt themselves with that core of Klay, Steph and Draymond, and Steve Kerr there.

The Warriors did return to the Finals in 2022 and won the championship, effectively cementing this as their second dynasty era.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Warriors would have made eight straight NBA Finals if not for injuries

I'm willing to make a giant excuse for the Warriors for the two out of the eight years that they did not make the finals. It's all because of injuries. Like the Warriors should have been in the finals eight years in a row.

In 2020 and 2021, the Warriors were plagued by injuries to Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. They made the Finals every year Steve Kerr coached them when healthy.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If the Warriors rebound the ball well, they cannot be beaten

I feel like if they rebound, they can't be beat. And low-key, the Warriors are pretty good rebounding team. They're not the soft Warriors that people used to hate on a few years ago. I think they were like top five or top six in the NBA and rebounds this year.

The Warriors beat the Celtics in the Finals, and Kevon Looney's rebounding was a critical factor in their success throughout the playoffs.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

The Heat lost Game 5 because fans were stuck in long concession lines at halftime

Halftime happens and then we come back. The arena is empty. The fans are all in the building... but most are stuck, still waiting in line for food and watching the game from the monitors... with an empty arena, it's basically shoot around for [the Celtics]. By the time the crowd was back from the concessions, the momentum had turned completely on its head.

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While lines were long, the Heat shooting 31.9% from the field was the primary reason they lost.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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HankHank

Whoever won Game 5 of the Celtics-Heat series was guaranteed to win the series

I think if the, whoever won that game [Game 5] was going to win the series, Celtics are the better team.

The Celtics won Game 5 and eventually won the series in 7 games.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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Tracy McGradyTracy McGrady

One-on-one basketball is the true, pure essence of the sport

One-on-one is the true essence of basketball. There's one-on-one and five on five, true matchups, but one-on-ones the true pure essence of basketball. I mean, we all grew up playing one-on-one.

This is a subjective view on the 'spirit' of the game.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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Tracy McGradyTracy McGrady

Kyrie Irving would be tough for LeBron James to guard one-on-one even in LeBron's prime

Kyrie [Irving] will be tough for LeBron [James] to even guard in his prime. Right. We haven't really seen Kyrie skillset. We've seen snippets, but it's hard to really, really display your ultimate skillset in a five-on-five setting. One-on-one Kyrie... you could probably see things that you never seen before.

Purely subjective hypothetical scenario between two all-time greats.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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Tracy McGradyTracy McGrady

Dwight Howard is the most disrespectful omission from the NBA Top 75 list

I don't take away from anybody that was on that list... but Dwight Howard to me is really the most disrespectful one [omission]. His prime years was phenomenal. Like he was the most dominant big in our game in his prime years.

While subjective, many analysts and players agreed that Howard's 3x DPOY and Finals run warranted inclusion.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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Tracy McGradyTracy McGrady

If Grant Hill had stayed healthy, we would have created a dynasty in Orlando

If Grant Hill was healthy... I make it to the NBA finals with the Orlando Magic. We would have created a dynasty for sure.

The 2000s Magic were consistently derailed by Grant Hill's ankle injuries, but 'dynasty' is an unprovable high bar.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
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Tracy McGradyTracy McGrady

The Warriors took Game 4 off against the Mavericks just to avoid the sweep and get a Game 5 gate

They up three [games]. Game four is in Dallas... they took a night off game four, 'Hey, let's make them travel all the way back out to the Bay Area... we'll blow they ass out.' They're playing with their food before they eat it. I got to believe it's over.

The Warriors did win Game 5 at home to close out the series 4-1, though whether they 'tanked' Game 4 is unprovable.
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Take Slip·May 25, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

The Warriors might be Bulletproof and can come back from any deficit

The warriors might be the only team that can be Bulletproof... they can come back from anything.

The Warriors eventually won the 2022 NBA title, supporting the idea of their 'bulletproof' nature during this run.
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Take Slip·May 25, 2022
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HankHank

Robert Williams is the most important defender on the Celtics

100%. If Robert Williams was healthy all year, he would have been the defensive player [of the year].

Subjective value judgment, though many metrics supported Williams' impact on the Celtics' elite defense when healthy.
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Take Slip·May 25, 2022
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HankHank

The Celtics will close out the Heat in Game 6 on Friday

I'm planning on going on Friday... I'm expecting it to be a closing match. Confetti.

The Heat won Game 6 in Boston; the Celtics had to win Game 7 in Miami to advance.
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Take Slip·May 25, 2022
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HankHank

Jaylen Brown will win NBA Finals MVP

Jaylen Brown finals MVP... it's like, they're going to try and lock up Jason [Tatum].

The Celtics lost the Finals to the Warriors; Stephen Curry won Finals MVP.
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