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Take Slip·May 30, 2017·Picks
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Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is maybe better than Michael Jordan

And LeBron James... better than Michael Jordan, maybe. Tune into FS1, Colin Cowherd will tell you about it for the next four hours.

The GOAT debate is inherently subjective.
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
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Big CatBig Cat

The Cavs-Warriors rubber match is the NBA Finals we need

It is the Cavs, Warriors, the finals everyone wants to see, the finals we need. It's the rubber match.

The 2017 Finals did indeed feature the Cavs and Warriors, completing their third consecutive meeting (the rubber match).
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron's 7 straight finals don't count because they were in the East

Asterix, asterix. They're all against the East. True. So let's not crown them just yet.

While LeBron did play in the East, 7 straight finals is historically unique; the take is a subjective value judgment.
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 2017 Finals will be the best coached series ever because of Ty Lue and Mike Brown

I think one thing we can all agree on is between Lou and Mike Brown, this is probably going to be the best coached NBA Finals of all time.

The 2017 Warriors were historically dominant, but few analysts would credit Mike Brown or Ty Lue with 'all-time' coaching performances over legendary tacticians.
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
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Big CatBig Cat

The Nashville Predators winning the Cup will be forgotten like the Hurricanes or Ducks wins

I'm rooting for the Predators simply because when teams like the Predators win championships with like their piss yellow uniforms and weird cities for hockey, people just tend to forget that that season never happened. So it's like when the Ducks won, it's like, I mean, did they win? I don't even know. I can't remember.

The Predators lost the 2017 Stanley Cup Final to the Penguins, so they didn't get the chance to be 'forgotten' as winners.
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017
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Andy DaltonAndy Dalton

Grit is an inherent trait you are born with

Grit, I mean, I feel like it's something that you just have to have in you. I wouldn't say it's something that you learn. I think you can adapt to it over time. But I think it's something that you're going to go regardless of the circumstance.

This is a philosophical opinion on personality traits.
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Big CatBig Cat

Tiger Woods' career is officially over

Tiger I listen all you tiger fanboys out there just i want you to do something for me right now sit down listen up you ready it's over. It's over.

This was famously proven wrong when Tiger Woods won the Tour Championship in 2018 and the Masters in 2019.
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Take Slip·May 26, 2017·Jimbos
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Big CatBig Cat

Being a Resident Assistant in college is a terrible job

Don't be an RA. Don't fucking do it. Listen, if you need the free housing... Go work the streets, but don't be an RA. An RA is worse than a mall cop.

This is a subjective lifestyle/social opinion.
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Take Slip·May 24, 2017
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Big CatBig Cat

Dante Jones is the real coach of the Cavaliers

Tyronn Lue is obviously not really the coach of the team. He stands there in a suit. He's like a senator. The coach, Dante Jones, my former teammate. He has his three-point celebrations down so perfectly... He's the first one off the bench to high five. He's the coach.

Tyronn Lue was the official head coach and led them to the Finals that year.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Rooftops are overrated for drinking

I think that rooftops are actually overrated. I'm a beer garden guy. I'm a beer garden guy and I'm a river guy.

This is entirely a matter of personal preference.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ohio State's program lacks class compared to Michigan

My hot seat is Ohio State. I'm sorry. The Ohio State University. We went to Michigan today. We met with Jim Harbaugh. It was great... All class exuding from the campus on Ann Arbor, unlike those guys down in Columbus. I'm just saying. They could – You still can rectify it. We're going to Columbus today. I don't want to be too mean to the guys in Columbus, but I'm just saying you guys are behind right now.

This is a subjective rivalry-based take.
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Big CatBig Cat

Leonard Fournette’s parents are geniuses for naming both sons Leonard

If you're a parent out there, a new parent, and you're thinking about having a couple kids and you think one is going to probably be better than the other, name the shittier kid just Leonard so that all of his mistakes – Or anytime your good kid, the one that's your breadwinner, fucks up, you can just blame the shittier kid.

This is a humorous strategy, not a verifiable claim.
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Take Slip·May 24, 2017
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Jim HarbaughJim Harbaugh

Toughness can be built like a callus and the human body craves contact

Think of it [toughness] like building a callus, you know, just like the human body. What a tremendous organism. I mean, it actually craves contact. I mean, it likes contact, craves it, as opposed to a car... So, yeah, much like conditioning can be improved, I mean, so can that callus of toughness and grit also be acquired or improved.

The psychological and physical development of 'toughness' is a subjective coaching philosophy.
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Take Slip·May 24, 2017
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Big CatBig Cat

Mike Zimmer should replace his eye with a glass eye featuring the Vikings logo

At some point, wouldn't a football guy just say, take the fucking eye out, put in a glass eye, and have it be the logo of whatever team I'm coaching?

OpinionFootballHotSarcastic
Mike Zimmer never replaced his eye with a logoed glass eye; he eventually stabilized his vision through surgeries.
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Take Slip·May 22, 2017
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HankHank

The Celtics are in year five of a rebuild and are closing in on LeBron James' tail

We're in year five of a rebuild. We have the number one draft pick. We're in the Eastern Conference Finals. We're clearly coming up on LeBron [James]'s tail. As long as we can dominate LeBron in the beginning of his career and then dominate him on the way out, I can be content with that.

The Celtics did eventually reach the Finals after LeBron left the East, but at the time of the take, LeBron still won the series 4-1 and remained the dominant force in the East for another year.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If you show up somewhere with a glowing orb, people will give you money out of fear

If you show up somewhere with a glowing orb, people will give you money because they'll be afraid of you. That's how it works.

The statement is inherently satirical and not a serious claim of economic fact.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If your wife goes away on business, you should move farther away from her to make her miss you more

Here's a pro tip for all you guys out there that are married. If your wife goes away on business, move farther away from your wife. Make her want to come to you.

This is terrible relationship advice given for comedic effect.
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Take Slip·May 22, 2017
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Danny WoodheadDanny Woodhead

A truly gritty person doesn't want to explain what grit is

I think in all fairness, if you are gritty, you don't want to be the person explaining what it is. You just go out and you do your job every day. And then everyone else can decide if you're gritty or not.

A subjective definition of character traits.
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Take Slip·May 22, 2017
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Bob HugginsBob Huggins

Cincinnati would have won a national title in 2000 if Kenyon Martin didn't get hurt

I think anybody who doesn't [think we would have won] don't know anything about basketball. [I think about it] not more than four or five times a day.

This is a famous sports 'what if'. Cincy was the favorite, but since it didn't happen, it remains subjective.
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Take Slip·May 22, 2017
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Bob HugginsBob Huggins

Deflections are the most important stat when playing a press defense

Since we started pressing, it's deflections. Deflections is a sign of activity and energy. It's disruptive.

This is a coaching philosophy and a subjective valuation of a statistic.
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Take Slip·May 22, 2017·Ehhhhhh
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Big CatBig Cat

LaVar Ball should not be held accountable for facts in his takes

I'm not on board for fact checking LaVar Ball's takes on anything. As far as I'm concerned, LaVar Ball does not when he says things, he doesn't give a shit if they're true or not. He's a prey and spray kind of taker. He's just gonna shoot, shoot, shoot. LaVar Ball, he can't be held accountable for his takes.

This is an observation on Ball's public persona and media strategy.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mitchell Trubisky looks like the Jersey Shore version of Tim Tebow

If you look at Mitchell Trubisky, he looks like the Jersey Shore version of Tim Tebow. Just put that thought in your head for a while.

This is a subjective comparison of physical appearances.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2017
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Big CatBig Cat

I am officially off Greg Popovich because of how he treats the media

I'm off of him. I'm off of Pop. No, but it's picking up a little steam. Greg Popovich just being a dickhead to people while everyone says, wow, Pop tells it like it is. He's so funny. And then he says a long political statement without really saying anything. And everyone's like, man, Pop keeps it real.

This is a subjective opinion on Popovich's personality and media relations.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LaVar Ball is the greatest character Vince McMahon ever created

LaVar Ball he is the greatest character that Vince McMahon ever created. It's like everything. I mean, he basically went on Colin Cowherd's show and nagged all women. He was like, I'm not selling you. You're not big ballers. And then all the women were like, wait, we want to be big ballers too. All right, fine. I'll sell you some shirts.

The comparison is a matter of opinion, though many sports media figures compared LaVar Ball to a wrestling promoter.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2017
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Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

Employers have much more legal leeway and leverage if they don't pay their interns

If they're not getting paid, all right, and they're not employees, right? Well, you better stop [paying them] right away... you have a lot more leeway if you're not paying them. I like the scheme you've... As we say in the law, you've got a lot of leverage.

While Mike is joking for the bit, labor laws regarding unpaid interns are actually much stricter than he implies, usually requiring the intern to be the primary beneficiary.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2017
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Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

NPR's pledge drives are a form of extortion

One of the big things now is if you'll give a donation, we will stop soliciting money. It's extortion. In other words, they're on there with some kind of meaningless promotion. And their attitude is, you hate this, right? The answer is obviously yes. You want us to stop, right? Yes. Give us some money.

This is a subjective characterization of a fundraising method.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The San Antonio Spurs are dead

And the San Antonio Spurs are dead. Dead. D-E-D. A-D. Dead. Manslaughtered, as Greg Popovich would say.

The Spurs were swept 4-0 by the Warriors in the 2017 Western Conference Finals and arguably entered a long period of decline.
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Big CatBig Cat

War for the Planet of the Apes will be one of the best pictures of the year

Planet of the Apes, going to be one of my best pictures of the year.

The film was critically acclaimed and received an Oscar nomination for Best Visual Effects, though it wasn't a Best Picture winner.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
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Kareem Abdul-JabbarKareem Abdul-Jabbar

John Wooden could not have coached in the current one-and-done era

I don't think Coach Wooden could have coached in this era because he wanted us to graduate. He wanted us to become educated and learn some moral lessons and how to deal with the people that you care about in meaningful ways.

This is a subjective historical comparison from someone who knew Wooden intimately.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
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Kareem Abdul-JabbarKareem Abdul-Jabbar

Banning the dunk ruined the game for basketball fans

I thought [the dunk being banned] was just made to deal with me... But no, it ruined the game for the fans. So that wasn't smart.

The rule was widely unpopular and eventually rescinded.
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Take Slip·May 17, 2017
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Kareem Abdul-JabbarKareem Abdul-Jabbar

LeVar Ball's exploitation of his son Lonzo is bothersome

I don't know what [Lonzo Ball] is all about up here because of his dad. His dad gives me the willies. Parents like that really bother me, just trying to exploit their kids like that.

This is a personal opinion on parenting and sports management.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Peyton Manning hosting the ESPYs will not be good

I feel like this is going to suck, but... what do I know? Unless they just have him on stage drilling those Boys and Girls Club in the face with the footballs. He should just do that for like two hours.

Manning's hosting was generally well-received by critics, though it leaned heavily into the 'safe' jokes PFT predicted.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Derek Jeter's face is starting to look like a baseball glove

He's slowly becoming a member of the Fat Face Club in retirement. That face, it's starting to get basketball shaped a little bit... His face looks like a baseball glove now.

Whether Jeter's face looks like a baseball glove is purely subjective.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
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Big CatBig Cat

I am sick of the internet's obsession with everything Greg Popovich does

I'm sick of Greg Popovich... It's the fact that everything he does, everyone says is incredible. Like Greg Popovich is a dick to a reporter. Oh, that's Greg Popovich. He's so funny. He tells it like it is... I hate how everything he does gets applauded by the internet.

This is an opinion about media/internet culture.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
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Big CatBig Cat

A Stanley Cup Final between Ottawa and Nashville will be a boring burden for hockey fans

If it is Ottawa versus Nashville. The burden on hockey Twitter to try to make us think that this is a meaningful Stanley Cup final is going to be hilarious to watch... It's going to be the Greg Popovich-ing of the NHL. It's like, actually, these are two awesome hockey teams, and you guys should be paying attention to it.

The Predators did make the final, but the Senators lost to the Penguins in the ECF, preventing this specific matchup.
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Big CatBig Cat

Stephen A. Smith claiming James Harden was drugged is a transparent attempt to brag about his contacts

After the James Harden game six incident, [Stephen A. Smith] went on the air and he said that he had five Hall of Famers text him saying they thought James Harden was drugged... No one cares about that. It's five Hall of Famers text Stephen A. Smith. That's big stuff.

There was never any evidence Harden was drugged; it was widely accepted he just had a historically bad performance.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
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Mike ConleyMike Conley

The Spurs always successfully find the right veterans to fit their system

Actually, [the Spurs] are a team that just it's like a revolving door of talent. They always bring in the right pieces and the right guys to fit the system. And no matter how old or you might think they are, they might be getting guys that are on the tail end of their careers are still able to do and play at a high level.

This is a generally accepted truth about the Tim Duncan/Gregg Popovich era Spurs.
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Take Slip·May 15, 2017
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Mike ConleyMike Conley

Kevin Durant joining the Warriors didn't change the mindset because they were already the team to beat

When [Durant] went there, I think it surprised everybody... but it's the same mindset. You already knew Golden State was the team to beat, and now they're still the team to beat with Kevin Durant. So the mindset didn't change. It was how are we going to beat them.

This reflects the professional player perspective at the time.
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Big CatBig Cat

The Capitals will never win anything with Alex Ovechkin

The Capitals continually disappoint you. You know that they're never going to do anything with Ovechkin.

The Capitals and Ovechkin won the Stanley Cup the very next season (2018).
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

D.C. is a loser town

Say what you want about Dan Snyder. They always compare the D.C. teams because D.C. is a loser town. I agree with that 100%. You can't really make an argument against that.

While subjective, the 'loser town' label was shortly debunked by championships from the Capitals (2018), Mystics (2019), and Nationals (2019).
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HankHank

I am not confident about the Celtics playing the Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference Finals

I'm not really going to act like I'm super confident about playing the Cavs.

The Cavaliers defeated the Celtics 4-1 in the 2017 Eastern Conference Finals.
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Take Slip·May 12, 2017
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Hank AzariaHank Azaria

Professional athletes who are 'disability check fat' like Bartolo Colon are the best

Jim Brockmire's favorite is Bartolo Colon. Because you have to love any professional athlete that is very nearly disability check fat.

This is a subjective character-based opinion.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell punishing Josh Gordon by not letting him play for the Browns is actually doing him a favor

Telling a player that your punishment is that you don't have to play for the Cleveland Browns is probably a little bit misguided. So, like, hey, good for Josh. He doesn't have to be a Brown.

Gordon eventually returned to the Browns later that year but was eventually traded to the Patriots, supporting the idea that leaving Cleveland might be beneficial.
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Big CatBig Cat

MJ is the greatest of all time

As much as I obviously don't want to get in the debate because I obviously everyone knows where I stand. MJ, greatest of all time.

This is a subjective sports debate with no definitive answer.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If you get injured outside of your sport, you should have to play that other sport until you get a sports-related injury

I've always said that if you get injured in a manner outside of the sport that you play, you should be forced to continue playing the sport until you develop a sports-related injury. So this guy, [Tyson Barrie], he got hurt wrestling... keep skating out there until it devolves into a massive hockey injury.

This is a satirical proposal for a rule change.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NBA Eastern Conference is boring and predictable because of LeBron James

I haven't watched a single Eastern Conference game in full because it's so boring and it's so predictable and it's just going to be LeBron James ducking his head, driving to the hole... getting fouled, making the layup half the time, and the other time crying because he didn't get fouled.

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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
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Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

The San Antonio Spurs are a tougher matchup for the Warriors than the Houston Rockets

I can't not put my money on the Spurs. They're just like that team that always finds a way to get wins. Not saying they're going to win, but to get a win for sure, I think I'd have to go Spurs.

The Spurs advanced to play the Warriors in the WCF but were swept 4-0 (though Kawhi Leonard was injured in Game 1). The Rockets lost to the Spurs in the second round.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
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Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

The Cavaliers only won the 2016 NBA Finals because of Draymond Green's suspension and Andrew Bogut's injury

I really don't think Cleveland wins if Draymond doesn't get suspended and Bogut doesn't get hurt. So sometimes you've got to have, like, a little luck in the playoffs. Not to say that Cleveland didn't deserve to win. I think they did... But, I mean, it's just – you can't really decide, like, who's going to win the finals until you actually get to that point.

This is a common historical 'what-if' that cannot be definitively proven either way.
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Take Slip·May 10, 2017
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Blake GriffinBlake Griffin

The Washington Wizards are a tougher matchup for the Cavaliers than the Boston Celtics

If you were on the Cavs, which team would you less like to face... I'd say probably Wizards. John Wall is so tough in transition. Isaiah is great, but John Wall is just so tough in transition.

The Celtics beat the Wizards in 7 games and then lost to the Cavs in 5 games. We never saw the Wizards vs Cavs matchup in that postseason.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The viral photo of a man humping a shark was just 'guys being guys'

It was either him or me situation. For Jim McElwain or his doppelganger on that boat. It's like I either had to fuck that shark. Or the shark was going to die, so it died, so I fucked it... [it's] guys being guys.

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