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Adam Schefter, Combine Week Live From Indy, 8 Year Anniversary Of The First PMT + Vanny Woodhead Is Somehow Back

Friday, March 1, 202413 takes

We’re in Indy for the NFL Combine and taping exactly 8 years to the day of the first recording of Pardon My Take. We Talk NFLPA franchise grades, Tyreek Hill’s weird lawsuit, what the hell is going on with Meek Mill and more (-). Adam Schefter joins us for his annual in person appearance during the combine to catch up on the past year, talk Draft, breaking Groundhog news and more (-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and the insane revelation that Vanny Woodhead is still alive (-).

Adam Schefter on Caleb Williams, Russell Wilson, and the Groundhog Scoop

Recording on Leap Day in Indy for the NFL Combine exactly eight years after the first episode of Pardon My Take is a full-circle moment that Big Cat and PFT couldn't have scripted. Back then, it was Chris Jones' equipment malfunction in the 40-yard dash that birthed the show, and eight years later, that same man is a three-time Super Bowl champion. The guys spent some time reflecting on the early days of being a morning show before realizing that recording at 8 AM was a terrible idea for everyone involved.

NFLPA Report Cards and Ownership Tiers

The second annual NFLPA report card dropped, and it provided the usual gold mine of anonymous snitching. While the Commanders predictably finished last with multiple sewage leaks in the locker room, the Chiefs proved you can win Super Bowls even if your players hate everything about the facility except Andy Reid. Big Cat noticed a very specific trend in who is actually spending money on their players.

Void
Mar 1, 2024
#22767
Big CatBig Cat

NFL owners who purchase their teams provide better facilities than those who inherit them

Nine out of the top 10... excluding the Packers, were teams that the owner purchased the team. And then all the bad [NFLPA] grades essentially were teams where the owners inherited the team, basically fail sons and daughters who are driving whatever they inherited into the ground.

This is largely a subjective analysis of data, but the data cited regarding the top-graded teams (Dolphins, Vikings) vs. the bottom-graded teams (Commanders, Cardinals, etc.) generally supports his observation of 'purchased' vs 'inherited' ownership groups.

PFT had a unique theory about why players are so miserable in professional locker rooms. It turns out that when you spend your college years in facilities that have literal waterfalls and barber shops, a standard NFL stool feels like a demotion.

Void
Mar 1, 2024
#22768
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL players hate their locker rooms because college facilities have spoiled them

My theory is that college locker rooms have gotten so out of control good that it's a step back when you go to the NFL. Like college coaches should be like, 'Yeah, you can go pro and make millions of dollars, but you don't get the barber chair.'

This is a subjective theory on player psychology and facility expectations.

He also pushed back on the idea that every coach should want an A grade from their players, specifically when it comes to the guy in charge of the weight room.

Void
Mar 1, 2024
#2863
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You don't want your players to like their strength and conditioning coach

I don't think I'd want my players to give my strength and conditioning coach an A because don't you want like that guy to be the hardest person in the world on you? I think like, you kind of want to hate your strength coach a little bit, right? Like maybe you don't want an F but it getting like a C plus or a B, you want that guy to like push you to be super, super uncomfortable all the time.

This is a subjective philosophy on coaching and player development.

Adam Schefter on the Hot Stove

Adam Schefter joined the show for his annual in-person Combine appearance. Before getting into the weeds of the NFL Draft, Schefter had to address his biggest scoop of the year: Punxsutawney Phil. Schefter claimed he had plants in Western Pennsylvania for months to ensure he got the groundhog news first. When the conversation turned to the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott, Schefter was adamant that Jerry Jones has his back against the wall regarding the salary cap.

Win
Mar 1, 2024
#2868
Adam SchefterAdam Schefter

The Cowboys must sign Dak Prescott to an extension this year to manage the salary cap

I think they have to get something done with him. I mean, he's got a 59 and a half million dollars cap number. They want to get a big deal done with CD Lamb. They want to get a big deal done with Micah Parsons. They want to upgrade their roster. Jerry Jones himself has said they're all in. Well, how can you be all in if your quarterback is taking up that much of the cap? Right. And by the way, if you don't get it done with him, then after the season, you can't tag him. Right. So he could just leave.

Dak Prescott signed a 4-year, $240 million extension on September 8, 2024, just before the first game of the season, fulfilling Schefter's prediction.

With several high-profile coaches like Bill Belichick and Mike Vrabel left without a chair when the music stopped this cycle, Schefter expects the hiring market to look very different next Halloween compared to previous years.

Push
Mar 1, 2024
#2870
Adam SchefterAdam Schefter

The presence of Bill Belichick and Mike Vrabel on the market will speed up coach firings next season

I think the fact that [Vrabel's] out there, the fact that Bill [Belichick] is out there, I think it speeds up the coaching firing cycle next season when teams are ordinarily making moves. We get to Thanksgiving. Usually. Sometimes there's a move that is made early in the year. One stray firing, oh, Carolina fired Frank Reich. But usually teams wait till after Thanksgiving and then they start trickling in. I, I think it wouldn't shock me if we started getting stuff like if late, late October, early November, because teams want to go talk to Vrabel. They want to go talk to Belichick.

Firings did occur (Robert Saleh in October 2024, Dennis Allen in November 2024), but as of February 2025, Belichick and Vrabel have not yet been hired as head coaches in the 2025 cycle, though the firings did happen early.

The biggest domino of the offseason remains the Chicago Bears and the number one overall pick. Schefter broke down the market for Justin Fields, noting that the compensation might not be the haul Bears fans are dreaming of, but rather a package that mirrors past mid-level quarterback trades.

Loss
Mar 1, 2024
#2872
Adam SchefterAdam Schefter

The compensation for a Justin Fields trade will be between a 2nd and a 4th round pick

I think the Justin Fields compensation is somewhere between what Alex Smith got [two 2s] and what Sam Darnold brought. [Sam Darnold] was for a four, a six that year and a four and a two the next year. So three picks. A two, four, and six. And I think that the Justin Fields compensation is somewhere between [those]. So it's like a second and a fourth. A two and a four.

Justin Fields was traded to the Steelers on March 16, 2024, for a conditional 6th-round pick (which could become a 4th), significantly lower than the 2nd round pick Schefter predicted.

He also touched on the Denver situation, making it clear that the relationship between Sean Payton and Russell Wilson is effectively over, regardless of what the contract says.

Win
Mar 1, 2024
#2874
Adam SchefterAdam Schefter

Denver will move on from Russell Wilson

I think they move on from Russ. I mean, Sean Payton, just read between the lines. Right? I don't even have to read between the lines. I think it's just saying it. Sean Payton's lines are like, he holds up three fingers in a straight line and then he takes the first two down. Between those lines, he's gone.

The Broncos released Russell Wilson on March 4, 2024, shortly after this recording.

The Resurrection of Vanny Woodhead

In what might be the most shocking revelation in the history of the show, Billy Football admitted via text that he never actually destroyed Vanny Woodhead. Despite being paid to scrap the van years ago and telling Big Cat it was legally "chopped up," the most famous vehicle in podcasting history is currently sitting in a parking lot.

Win
Mar 1, 2024·Fyre Fest
#2881
Billy FootballBilly Football

I lied about destroying Vanny Woodhead; I have been keeping it for years

Technically it's destroyed. Legally it's chopped up. But I kind of... I didn't have the heart to chop it up, so I just been keeping it... I was like, every time it was an excuse I used to not follow through with chopping it up.

Billy is confessing to a past lie; the fact that the van still exists (as proven by the photos) makes his claim that it's 'not destroyed' correct.

Big Cat was initially stunned, then immediately shifted into "Pimp My Ride" mode. Despite the van technically not existing in the eyes of the law, the plan is to bring the ghost van back to Chicago and restore it to its former glory.

Win
Mar 1, 2024·Fyre Fest
#2879
Big CatBig Cat

I am going to pimp out Vanny Woodhead and bring the van back to life in Chicago

We are going to get Vanny to Chicago. We have, we're in a different financial situation than we were six years ago. So I'm gonna probably put some money into this Vanny, pimp it out, figure out how to make it technically exist again. And now we'll have Vanny back in our lives. Like this trip to Indy would've been a perfect, let's just hop in Vanny. Yeah. So we're I Vanny is back.

The van was eventually transported to Chicago and 'pimped out' with help from various sponsors, appearing in subsequent videos.

From failing NFLPA grades to the return of the green van, eight years in and the show is still as chaotic as it was in PFT's kitchen.

Technically Vanny doesn't exist, but luckily for us, this podcast still does.

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More Takes

Open
Mar 1, 2024
#22769
Big CatBig Cat

The College Football Playoff will eventually return to regional divisions

I still think it's gonna be no different than cable to streaming back to cable where we're bundling all the streaming. Now they're gonna get to a point where they just start making like regional divisions and it's gonna be like, 'Well, okay, so Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA are in a division. Why don't we just call it the PAC-4?'

The future structure of college football is currently in flux; this remains a pending prediction for the long-term landscape.
Void
Mar 1, 2024
#2866
HankHank

Rob Gronkowski is the second greatest New England Patriot of all time

This player came in, changed everything, just vibes wise. He, he, you know, I think I was 18 or 19 when he, when he signed with the team. So as an 18, 19-year-old, he was everything. Rob Gronkowski, Gronk, spike, freaking nature, the most fun player, you know, non Tom Brady. Greatest tight end of all time. I think he might be the easiest player to root for if you're a fan of that team.

This is a subjective ranking of player legacy.
Push
Mar 1, 2024
#22770
Adam SchefterAdam Schefter

The S2 cognition test is effectively out of business after the C.J. Stroud evaluation error

[The S2 guys] are out of business right now... could it ever have been more wrong on one guy ever? ... [Bryce Young] tested off the charts and... it's bad.

While the S2 company still exists, their influence in the NFL Draft community significantly waned following the C.J. Stroud/Bryce Young disparity in 2023.
Void
Mar 1, 2024
#2876
Adam SchefterAdam Schefter

The Texans likely would have drafted Bryce Young if they had the #1 pick in 2023

If the Texans had lost that game and gotten the number one pick in that Draft, if that had happened, I think they might've taken Bryce Young. And I don't know if they would've traded the pick, which means Chicago wouldn't have Caleb Williams, which means they wouldn't be shopping Justin Fields this year.

This is a counterfactual historical claim that can never be definitively proven, though it aligns with draft-day reporting that the Panthers preferred Young.

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