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Bowling Legend Pete Weber, Super Bowl Story Lines, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + A Recap Of The Bowling Punishment

Wednesday, February 1, 202314 takes

Sean Payton is back and now the Head Coach of the Denver Broncos (-). We talk Super Bowl storylines we're most excited for and Hank does a hater's guide to the Super Bow (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne includes Mr Beast, a shower debate and more (-). We welcome on Bowling Legend Pete Weber to talk about his career, his famous moment "who do you think you are? I am", the art of bowling and more (-). We then finish with a recap of the Bowling Punishment/Stream (-).

Bowling Legend Pete Weber, Sean Payton to Denver, and the Bowling Stream Recap

The NFL coaching carousel finally stopped spinning long enough for Sean Payton to land in Denver, and Big Cat thinks this is the move that saves the franchise. After the Broncos spent a year watching Russell Wilson struggle through the worst season of his career, bringing in a guy who specialized in maximizing a short, accurate quarterback is the only logical path forward.

Loss
Feb 1, 2023
#10928
Big CatBig Cat

Sean Payton is the perfect coach to fix Russell Wilson

Sean Payton's worth more than the 29th pick when [Russell Wilson] has been so bad and you've invested in Russell Wilson. You gotta figure out a way to fix him. Who better to fix a short quarterback whose arm might be losing a little bit of the steam? He's the perfect guy.

Payton famously failed to fix Wilson, benching him at the end of the 2023 season before the team took a massive dead cap hit to release him.

PFT isn't quite as optimistic about the immediate results. While the coaching upgrade is massive compared to the Nathaniel Hackett era, there’s still the looming question of how much Russell Wilson has left in the tank for a deep playoff run.

Win
Feb 1, 2023
#10929
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sean Payton will be a decent coach in Denver but won't win a Super Bowl with Russell Wilson

The vibe that I'm getting is that he's gonna come back. He's gonna be a decent head coach... I think he knows how to run a team. So it's gonna be a completely different look for the Broncos... but I don't see him like winning Super Bowls in Denver. At least not with Russell Wilson.

Wilson was released by the Broncos in March 2024 without winning a playoff game under Payton.

Super Bowl Storylines and Hater Guides

With the Super Bowl matchup set between the Chiefs and Eagles, Big Cat and PFT are leaning into the storylines. While some fans might get tired of hearing about it, Big Cat is genuinely impressed by the Kelce brothers both being at the top of their game and facing off on the biggest stage.

Win
Feb 1, 2023
#10930
Big CatBig Cat

The Kelce brothers facing off in the Super Bowl is genuinely wild and not overstated

The Kelce Brothers, it's gonna be talked about nonstop... it's actually very crazy. It's really cool that they are the first two brothers to face off in a Super Bowl and they're both really fucking good. I actually think it's wild.

The Kelce brothers did indeed become the first brothers to play against each other in a Super Bowl on Feb 12, 2023.

Hank, ever the professional hater when his Patriots aren't involved, is looking at the game through a much more cynical lens. He's already tracking the historical path of Patrick Mahomes, though not for the records most people are watching.

Loss
Feb 1, 2023
#10931
HankHank

Patrick Mahomes will eventually catch Tom Brady in Super Bowl losses

People keep talking about Patrick Mahomes is gonna catch up to Brady. Right? That's the storyline. Well in my eyes he's going—the only thing that he's going to catch up to Brady on is Super Bowl losses. He would lose this one and would still need to lose another one. But if he did, then he would catch up to Tom Brady in losses.

Mahomes won Super Bowl LVII (and Super Bowl LVIII the following year), meaning he did not add to his Super Bowl loss total (still at 1). Tom Brady lost 3 Super Bowls.

Speaking of processes and championships, the conversation drifted toward the 76ers and the long-term viability of tanking. Big Cat defended the original idea of "The Process," even if the execution on draft night left a lot to be desired over the years.

Void
Feb 1, 2023
#10932
Big CatBig Cat

The 76ers 'Process' worked; they just drafted the wrong players

I don't know. It kind of worked. They got the guys, they just picked the wrong guys. Picked Markelle Fultz and Ben Simmons and Nerlens Noel. The actual [Process]—and Embiid. Of course. But I'm saying the process, I always am a fan of the process because I always thought the brutal honesty of a team being like, we are trying to suck so that one day we can get good. I actually am a big fan.

The 76ers have yet to reach a conference final since starting The Process, though Joel Embiid did win an MVP.

PFT backed the strategy, noting that in professional sports, being mediocre is the worst place to be. Sometimes you have to bottom out to get the franchise-altering talent required to win.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tanking in professional sports objectively works.

Tanking works. It objectively works. If the Redskins had lost that Dolphins team, yeah. I would have Joe Burrow right now. That's just a fact.

While subjective, his specific example is widely supported by NFL analysts who agree the Redskins missed out on Burrow by winning a meaningless game.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hot Seat/Cool Throne covered a lot of ground, from the ethics of YouTube philanthropy to the hygiene habits of office workers. PFT jumped to the defense of MrBeast after the internet tried to cancel him for paying for people's eye surgeries.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

MrBeast is effectively providing single-payer healthcare to individuals

I think the objection should be the fact that there are so many people out there that need a simple surgery that costs like a thousand dollars that can't afford it... Be mad at how we do healthcare. Be mad at healthcare, not MrBeast. Correctly providing single-payer healthcare to these people as an individual.

This is a social/political opinion on a specific event.

Things got a bit weirder when a Twitch streamer apology video went viral after he was caught watching deep-fake content. PFT had a very specific boundary for what constitutes a mistake versus a deliberate life path.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Watching deep-fake porn of your friends is a lifestyle choice, not a moment of weakness.

I've never clicked on a link being like, I want to jack off to my friends. That's not really, that sounds like a lifestyle choice. Not a moment of weakness.

This is an ethical and behavioral judgment that cannot be objectively proven true or false.

Then came the Great Shower Debate. Big Cat sparked a civil war on Twitter by suggesting that everyone who works a standard office job should be showering in the morning to start their day fresh, rather than just rolling out of bed and into a cubicle.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

People who work office jobs and don't shower in the morning are weird

My hot seat is I guess how I shower because I shower in the morning... People working like a nine to five in an office, not showering in the morning. That's fucking weird. It wakes you up. It makes you feel clean. It makes you feel fresh.

Inherently subjective matter of personal routine.

Billy Football tried to counter the morning routine by attacking the most important meal of the day. According to Billy, the time spent eating breakfast is better spent elsewhere, though he didn't specify if that time was for "research" or just more sleep.

Void
Billy FootballBilly Football

Breakfast is unnecessary and takes up too much time

Intermittent fasting. Breakfast takes up too much time in the morning. Just like eating when you just wake up, do you do that? I think it would fall right with showers.

Subjective opinion on lifestyle and nutrition.

Pete Weber: The Bad Boy of Bowling

The guys sat down with a true sports icon, Pete Weber. The legend behind the most famous quote in bowling history joined the show to talk about his career, the transition to the senior tour, and the mental toughness required to bowl a perfect game. Weber pushed back on the idea that the final ball of a 300 is the hardest one to throw.

Void
Feb 1, 2023
#10936
Pete WeberPete Weber

The 10th strike is the most difficult part of bowling a 300 game

Everybody says the first one is the hardest one to throw. I totally disagree. I think the 10th one is. Because if you don't get the 10th one, then you have no chance... if you got the front nine, that 10th one is the most important.

This is a professional opinion from a subject matter expert.

Despite having more titles than his legendary father Dick Weber, Pete remains humble about the family hierarchy. He still maintains that he isn't the greatest to ever do it, even if his trophy case says otherwise.

Void
Feb 1, 2023
#21058
Pete WeberPete Weber

Dick Weber is the greatest bowler of all time.

To me my dad [Dick Weber] is the best of all time ever. Yeah, I agree. But you know, like Walter Ray has 47 titles... [but] I will never say that I'm better than him.

The 'GOAT' in any sport is inherently subjective, but coming from Pete Weber, it carries significant weight.

Weber also got some things off his chest regarding his exclusion from the US Open. For a five-time champion and Hall of Famer to be left out of the field, it felt like a personal slight from the governing bodies of the sport.

Win
Feb 1, 2023
#10937
Pete WeberPete Weber

The US Bowling Congress not inviting me to the US Open is an insult

A five-time Open champion... PBA/USBC Hall of Famer... and I don't get an invite? I think that's just an insult. That to me is a double insult. That I have to ask for an exemption into a tournament that I've won five times.

Pete Weber indeed did not receive an automatic invite to the 2023 US Open.

The Bowling Punishment Recap

To wrap things up, the crew recapped the marathon bowling stream. Jake Marsh survived 19 hot dogs and hours of bowling to finally hit his score and escape the alley. The physical toll was high, with Max dealing with a "world of pain" and Billy doing everything he could to "beat the system."

Big Cat is already looking ahead to how they can make next year's punishment even more impossible to complete.

Win
Feb 1, 2023
#21059
Big CatBig Cat

A future Super Bowl punishment should be that someone has to hit a hole-in-one.

Next year I think we're gonna do, you gotta hit a hole in one. That would be so funny. If we just had a course in like a, a nice little [area]... it would take forever.

This was perfectly prescient; Max Dolente was eventually forced to attempt this exact feat in a viral 2024 marathon stream.

If you see Jake Marsh with a heating pad on his shoulder this week, just know he earned it one frame at a time.

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