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Bulls 1st Rd Pick Wendell Carter Jr + Ryan Whitney Mt Rushmore Of Insults

Friday, June 22, 201816 takes

018 NBA Draft and Salty Woj won the night. Big stories from the draft including Mikal Bridges being traded, Michael Porter Jr's spine being made of dust, Grayson Allen going to the Jazz, and Cal on the hot seat ( - ). Chicago Bulls first round pick Wendell Carter Jr joins the show to talk about playing at Duke, what the draft process has been like, and how he sees his game fitting in the NBA ( - ). Ryan Whitney completes our Mt Rushmore of guests with the Mt Rushmore of insults ( - ). Talking Soccer, Messi is dead. Ass in the Jackpot for Colin Cowherd, Kings Stay Kings Dwight Howard, and Jimbos of the Week.

Wendell Carter Jr. on the Bulls and Ryan Whitney's Mount Rushmore of Insults

The 2018 NBA Draft is in the books, and while Adam Silver was doing his thing on stage, the real MVP was Petty Woj. Big Cat and PFT break down how Adrian Wojnarowski essentially held a thesaurus hostage to circumvent the league's ban on tipping picks. Whether a team was "enamored," "lasered in," or "unable to resist" a prospect, Woj proved he’s the king of the corner.

Win
Jun 22, 2018
#12588
Big CatBig Cat

Adrian Wojnarowski is bigger than the NBA and ESPN can't touch him

It's like ESPN is not going to do shit to him. No. Because he's Woj. He's bigger than the league. Technically, he didn't tip any picks. No, he just said that they're unlikely to pass on them.

Woj continued to be the premier NBA insider at ESPN for years after this incident, confirming his status.

The draft itself provided plenty of fodder, from Trae Young’s draft-day shorts to the Sixers trading Mikal Bridges just minutes after celebrating with his mom, who literally works for the team. Big Cat and PFT also weighed in on the Philip Rivers vs. Eli Manning debate, sparked by the Doncic-Young trade.

Void
Jun 22, 2018
#12589
Big CatBig Cat

Philip Rivers is a better quarterback than Eli Manning

Philip Rivers, better quarterback than Eli Manning. Much better. Better career. More viral. I know the two Super Bowls... statisticaly, better quarterback.

This is a perennial sports debate that cannot be definitively solved, though Rivers has better regular season stats and Eli has the championships.

Speaking of the rookies, PFT isn't exactly buying the hype on the new Atlanta Hawk, while Big Cat is all-in on the European sensation heading to Dallas.

Loss
Jun 22, 2018
#12590
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Trae Young looks like he sucks

Granted, I'm not a great basketball mind. That might surprise you at home. No, you're a brilliant basketball mind. But Trae Young looks like he sucks to me.

Trae Young became an All-Star and led his team to an Eastern Conference Final, making this take largely incorrect.
Win
Jun 22, 2018
#12591
Big CatBig Cat

Luka Doncic dominated the second best league in the world and will be very good

Luka Doncic, I think, will be very good. He dominated the Spanish League. That's the second best league in the world. He's 18 years old. He won the MVP of the Spanish League in his 18. That's pretty fucking good.

Luka Doncic became a perennial MVP candidate and one of the best players in the world.

The medical reports were the biggest story for the guys at the back of the lottery. Between Michael Porter Jr.'s back being made of dust and Mo Bamba's insane wingspan, the draft had its fair share of booms and busts.

Push
Jun 22, 2018
#12592
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Porter Jr. fell in the draft because he doesn't have a spine

Michael Porter Jr. doesn't have a spine because that's the only reason why he fell all the way to the 14th pick. People actually thought – like he obviously was injured at Missouri... I'm just convinced he just doesn't have a spine.

MPJ did have severe back issues that required multiple surgeries, though he obviously has a spine and has had a productive career.
Win
Jun 22, 2018
#12593
Big CatBig Cat

The best you will ever see Mo Bamba is the first time you lay eyes on him

Our friend Matt Jones from Kentucky Sports Radio... had a great line about Mo Bamba. He said the best... The best you'll ever see Mo Bamba is the first time you lay eyes on him. Because then from that moment on, you're like, wait, he can't really play basketball?

Bamba has struggled to live up to his high draft status, often being a backup or journeyman player.

Wendell Carter Jr. Joins the Show

Freshly drafted Chicago Bull Wendell Carter Jr. stopped by to talk about his path from Duke to the NBA. He revealed that he was actually torn between Harvard and Duke, much to his parents' chagrin, and that he nearly stayed for another year in Durham to get closer to his degree.

Big Cat was thrilled to have a new Bull on the roster, especially after Wendell admitted that Chicago was his top destination even if he had the choice of free agency.

Win
Jun 22, 2018
#28036
WC
Wendell Carter Jr.

I would have chosen to sign with the Bulls even if I were a free agent

I thought I would choose Chicago if it was a free agency like... Fred [Hoiberg] is a great coach and they don't have, you know, a lot of bigs so it would be like a perfect situation for me.

The Bulls did indeed draft him with the 7th pick in 2018.

We also got some insight into the Duke locker room, the group chat dynamics with Grayson Allen, and the looming shadow of Zion Williamson. Big Cat, ever the hater, already has his scouting report ready for the next crop of Blue Devils.

Loss
Jun 22, 2018
#12595
Big CatBig Cat

Zion Williamson will be a big time bust

Zion Williamson, bust. Big time bust. That guy stinks. He's got no explosiveness. That's what I'm saying because he's got a ton of explosiveness. So if you just say it's not NBA explosiveness, people are like, wow, that guy knows something that we don't know.

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Zion was one of the most explosive players in NBA history when healthy and was the #1 overall pick.

Mount Rushmore of Insults with Ryan Whitney

To round out the Mount Rushmore of Recurring Guests, Ryan Whitney joined the show for a Mount Rushmore of Insults. Things got heated early as Hank felt slighted by a last-minute topic change, but Whitney brought the heat with some classic hockey locker room chirps.

From "pigeon" to "peasant" to the hybrid "pheasant," Whitney proved why he’s a first-ballot Hall of Famer for the program. PFT stuck to the stinging one-syllable classics like "clown" and "fraud," while Big Cat went with the devastating "mouth breather."

Whitney also couldn't help himself from taking a shot at the NBA's lackluster championship celebration compared to the absolute rager the Capitals threw for the Stanley Cup.

Void
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The NBA Finals celebration was a joke compared to the Stanley Cup Finals

Sick celebration that was at the end. Looked like they won that Saturday morning men's league that Big Cat plays in. But they won their NBA title. They're checking their phones to see how quickly they're on Instagram... Vegas, Washington had people on the edge of their seats. People were sleeping at the Golden State Warriors Arena. Snoozing if they won the title. What a league. What a joke.

The 2018 NBA Finals was a 4-0 sweep and is generally considered one of the least competitive/exciting finals of the era.

Ass in the Jackpot and Kings Stay Kings

Talking Soccer returned briefly to announce that Messi is officially dead after Argentina's collapse.

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Lionel Messi is dead

Messi's dead. Messi is dead. Dunzo. Listen, it's a team sport. Go back to Argentina, Messi. Okay? It's a team sport. Argentina stinks. Messi's great. Yeah.

Messi went on to win the Copa America in 2021 and the World Cup in 2022, proving he was very much not 'dead'.

In Ass in the Jackpot, Baker Mayfield became a legend in the guys' eyes for going on Colin Cowherd's show and absolutely dismantling him. Baker wasn't having any of the "bad teammate" narrative, and Big Cat thinks the Browns might have finally found their guy.

Push
Big CatBig Cat

The Cleveland Browns have found their quarterback in Baker Mayfield

I love Baker Mayfield... he was so calm and cool about it like he didn't get mad he was just like you're a fucking idiot man and so Cleveland I think you found your quarterback.

Mayfield led the Browns to their first playoff win in decades, but was eventually traded after four seasons, making him a short-term solution rather than a franchise cornerstone.

Finally, Dwight Howard earns Kings Stay Kings honors for being such a legendary locker room cancer that the Nets traded for him just to pay him to go away immediately.

Push
Big CatBig Cat

Dwight Howard is the worst teammate of all time

Dwight Howard, the worst teammate. Can we say he's the worst teammate of all time? Embrace the bait... Dwight Howard just being the worst teammate ever and no one wanting him. He alienated his teammates before we met him.

While Howard's reputation was poor, he later redeemed himself as a valuable role player for the 2020 Lakers championship team.

Hank tried to argue that the Celtics could fix him, but Big Cat and PFT aren't holding their breath for a Dwight Howard redemption arc.

If you see a guy stalking Matt Patricia at a water park this weekend, just know it’s for the brand.

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More Takes

Push
Jun 22, 2018
#28035
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Michael Porter Jr.'s hip injury is more concerning than his back injury

I'm more worried about the hip injury. I think hip is – and that's maybe just a recency bias because IT [Isaiah Thomas] just kind of stopped playing basketball. But if you're 18 years old and you've got a hip and you've got a back on your resume already – yeah, you basically can't play – you can't play sports.

MPJ has managed a successful career despite the injuries, though they have caused him to miss significant time (including his entire rookie year).
Void
Jun 22, 2018
#12594
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Donante DiVincenzo and Matthew Dellavedova are the grittiest backcourt in history

I'm also psyched about the grittiest backcourt, perhaps, in NBA history with Dante DiVincenzo and Matthew Dellavedova. Ooh. Try driving to the hole and not drawing a charge with those two on the court... As owner of the New Zealand Breakers, I am entertaining trade discussions with the Bucks if they'd like to trade Dellavedova.

Subjective claim about 'grittiness'.
Loss
Jun 22, 2018
#28037
WC
Wendell Carter Jr.

Duke will win the National Championship if the players buy in and avoid egos

This depends on if everybody buys in. They definitely have the talent. There's no doubt about that, but as long as they don't let Egos get involved, they shouldn't be beat, honestly.

Duke reached the Elite Eight but lost to Michigan State; they did not win the championship despite the historic talent.
Void
HankHank

Dwight Howard would work on the Celtics

I actually think he would work on the Celtics. Call me crazy. But they wouldn't let him be the alpha. And if he didn't fit, he wouldn't fit. But I think he could fit.

Howard never played for the Celtics, and they didn't pursue him, opting for different frontcourt configurations.

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