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Chris Bosh, DK Metcalf, MLB/NBA Postseason and Bill O'Brien Fired

Wednesday, October 7, 202015 takes

Heat/Lakers Game 4 the Heat tried, they really did ( - ). We talk some playoff baseball and we discuss whether or not we should root for the Astros for maximum chaos. Monday Night Football clean up and Bill O'Brien ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ). Chris Bosh joins the show to talk about his new music, the NBA Finals, Heat Culture, and does this count for Lebron? ( - ) DK Metcalf joins the show to talk about his awesome start to the season, fumbling at the 1 yard line, apologizing to Hank for that fumble and more ( - 1). We finish with guys on chicks.

Chris Bosh on Heat Culture and DK Metcalf on the Goal Line Fumble

The Miami Heat are down but not out after Game 4, according to the resident Heat fan Jake Marsh. While the Lakers took a commanding 3-1 lead, Big Cat and PFT are looking at the box score and seeing some anomalies that suggest LeBron James might not be the engine driving this bus anymore. Between KCP actually playing like an All-Star and LeBron's curious plus-minus, the guys are starting to ask the tough questions about who really deserves the credit for this run.

Loss
Oct 7, 2020
#16805
Big CatBig Cat

The Lakers might be better without LeBron James based on his plus-minus

LeBron James -2. We're not cherry-picking that, that's an actual stat. Are the Lakers better without LeBron? That's what many are asking. I don't know, if you put in Rondo instead of LeBron, he's a +8, they probably win by a hundred.

LeBron won Finals MVP and led the team to a title, proving they were definitely not better without him.

While the NBA Finals wind down, the MLB postseason is providing a different kind of drama. PFT has decided to embrace his inner villain by throwing his full support behind the Houston Astros. After the cheating scandal, most of the world wants to see them fail, but PFT sees an opportunity for maximum psychological damage to Yankees and Dodgers fans alike.

Void
Oct 7, 2020
#16807
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am rooting for the Houston Astros to make everyone angry

I'm a hundred percent rooting for the Astros. It would make so many people angry... so many Yankee fans angry and so many Dodger [fans]... it would make so many people angry that I think we have to root for that.

This is a statement of personal rooting interest, which is subjective.

Big Cat isn't quite ready to see the Astros hoist another trophy, but he agrees that the journey there would be the funniest possible outcome for neutral observers. The idea of the most hated team in sports ruining everyone's October is just too good to pass up, provided they don't actually finish the job.

Loss
Oct 7, 2020
#21207
Big CatBig Cat

The perfect season for the Astros is reaching the World Series and then losing so everyone can mock them again

I want the Astros to get to the World Series. I do not want them to win... I want them to bother everyone and then ultimately lose. So then we can shit on them again. That is the perfect Arc.

The Astros lost to the Tampa Bay Rays in the ALCS, failing to reach the World Series.

The Bill O'Brien Era Ends in Houston

Monday brought the news that the Houston Texans finally moved on from Bill O'Brien, but the timing left Big Cat scratching his head. After allowing O'Brien to act as both head coach and GM while trading away a generational talent in DeAndre Hopkins, the franchise decided four games into the season was the right time to pull the plug. It’s a masterclass in how to mismanage a roster, leaving Deshaun Watson to pick up the pieces of a hollowed-out team.

Void
Oct 7, 2020
#21206
Big CatBig Cat

The timing of Bill O'Brien's firing was nonsensical because the Texans let him wreck the roster before letting him go

This timing makes no sense to fire Bill O'Brien... Because you're going to let him trade away your franchises best player, then you're going to give him four games and then fire them... That's exactly what a dumb franchise would do let their coach become their GM in a power struggle have him wreck everything and then fire him four games in the season.

This is an assessment of team management and front office logic.

In Atlanta, Dan Quinn is still clinging to his job despite the Falcons' struggles. While the seat is boiling, the guys looked at the upcoming schedule and realized that a miraculous turnaround might be in the cards simply because the opponents are getting significantly worse.

Loss
Oct 7, 2020
#16809
Big CatBig Cat

Dan Quinn will win enough games to save his job and finish 8-8

I think Dan Quinn might rattle off enough wins to get to 8 and 8 and keep this goddamn job... the next five games that you just mentioned right there, they seem all winnable.

The Falcons lost to the Panthers on October 11, and Dan Quinn was fired the same day with an 0-5 record.

Chris Bosh on the NBA Finals and Life After Basketball

Two-time champion Chris Bosh joined the show to talk about his new music and the current state of the Miami Heat. Bosh, who was a cornerstone of the "Heat Culture" era, offered a unique perspective on why this current Miami team is so dangerous despite being underdogs. He also weighed in on LeBron's longevity, noting that the work James put in during his early 20s is exactly why he's still dominating the league in his mid-30s.

Void
Oct 7, 2020
#21209
Chris BoshChris Bosh

LeBron James is currently entering the 'meat' of his second prime

I think we're just now getting into the meat of his second prime really if you want to call it that... to see him actually deliver with it is incredible. He had the habits and the foresight back then [to stretch twice a day].

Longevity and 'primes' are subjective, though LeBron did win a title in 2020 and continued to play at an All-NBA level for several years after.

Bosh also didn't hold back on the modern viewing experience of the NBA. As a fan of the game's flow, he expressed frustration with how constant officiating reviews are sucking the life out of the product.

Void
Oct 7, 2020
#21203
Chris BoshChris Bosh

The NBA needs to stop using instant replays because they are killing the game's flow and entertainment value

I would just love the league to stop the instant replays. That is killing the game. I have turned as a consumer of the product. I have turned the channel multiple times and I didn't come back to watch the game because there's been an instant replay... to stop the game to see and figure out if it's a flagrant one or [flagrant two] is too much.

This is a subjective opinion about the quality of the broadcast and the league's rules.

DK Metcalf: Top 5 and Goal Line Lessons

DK Metcalf made his return to the show to address the elephant in the room: his fumble at the one-yard line against the Cowboys. While PFT and Big Cat weren't going to let him off easy, DK took the ribbing in stride, admitting he got a little too cocky before crossing the plane.

Win
Oct 7, 2020
#21208
DK MetcalfDK Metcalf

I learned my lesson from fumbling at the goal line and will never let it happen again

It was a stupid mistake on my part. I really thought [I] burnt them bad and didn't think he was gonna come back... I lived and I learned. [It] definitely won't happen again.

While Metcalf has fumbled since, he has not repeated that specific 'showboating/slowing down at the goal line' mistake in his career.

Despite the blunder, Metcalf's production has been undeniable. He’s putting up video game numbers for a Seahawks team that looks like a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Big Cat even set aside their Twitter beef long enough to give the young receiver his flowers, officially ranking him among the elite pass-catchers in the game today.

Void
Oct 7, 2020
#21205
Big CatBig Cat

DK Metcalf is officially a top 5 wide receiver in the NFL

DK Metcalf from the Seattle Seahawks top five wide receiver. I'm hearing that buzz... I said you were top five wide receiver actually as much shit as I give you I said that on Sunday show. I looked you up. I looked this up online.

Whether a player is 'top 5' is a subjective ranking, though Metcalf did finish the 2020 season with over 1,300 yards and 10 touchdowns.

The show wrapped up with Hot Seat/Cool Throne, featuring Billy Football’s bizarre vendetta against celestial bodies. After seeing reports of asteroids approaching Earth, Billy decided to call their bluff, labeled them "frauds," and demanded they actually do something if they want to be taken seriously.

Win
Billy FootballBilly Football

Asteroids are frauds and won't actually hit Earth

Asteroids do something, they're all talk no walk... Asteroids you're on my shit list and you're frauds. If it shows up to Earth it will probably fuck me up but you're frauds.

Hot TakeLifeScorchingSarcastic
The asteroids mentioned did indeed 'skim' past Earth without hitting it, technically making them 'frauds' by Billy's logic.

If the world doesn't end via space rock, we'll be back Friday to preview a massive weekend of football.

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More Takes

Void
Oct 7, 2020
#16804
Big CatBig Cat

The Heat would have won Game 4 if Goran Dragic had played

I'm not going to make excuses and say this doesn't count as a finals win for LeBron, but you got to think that if [Goran] Dragic played this game, the Heat would probably win. Absolutely. I mean we can all agree on that.

Subjective sports hypothetical. Dragic missed the game, so we will never know.
Loss
Oct 7, 2020
#16806
Jake MarshJake Marsh

The Heat will win the NBA Finals in seven games

They did not [win Game 4]. However, they're going to win the series in seven games.

The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Finals in six games, defeating the Heat 4-2.
Loss
Oct 7, 2020
#16808
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Clayton Kershaw will have an epic meltdown in the playoffs

Are you telling me that you're not going to root for an epic Clayton Kershaw meltdown in the playoffs?

Kershaw actually had a great 2020 postseason, going 4-1 with a 2.93 ERA and winning the World Series.
Win
HankHank

Doc Rivers will never be able to successfully ditch his nickname for 'Glenn'

He is going to get rid of the Doc Rivers nickname and just go by Glenn and somehow he thinks that that's just going to happen. Yeah, that doesn't happen. You don't go from a Doc to a Glenn because of anything.

Doc Rivers is still almost exclusively referred to as 'Doc' by media and fans years later.
Loss
Oct 7, 2020
#21204
Chris BoshChris Bosh

The Heat will win the NBA Finals in a dramatic finish

I think I got the Heat taking Game 4... I got the [Heat] in a dramatic finish and winner take all in the next two out of three.

The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Finals in six games, defeating the Heat 4-2.

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