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Coach Jon Gruden, Mt Rushmore Of Things We Don’t Get The Hype About, Mega Bed + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Friday, August 15, 202520 takes

We’re on the road and we mad a mega bed. The boys talk about their week down in Missouri, some sports stories, Zac’s business tats and more (-). Mt Rushmore of things we don’t understand the hype about (-). Coach Gruden joins us in person to talk football, what teams he thinks are going to be good, visiting camps, coaching again, boxes and more (-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and a conspiracy to make sure Big Cat never sleeps again (-).

Jon Gruden, Mega Bed, and the Mount Rushmore of Things We Don’t Get the Hype About

We’re on the road for the Internet Invitational at Big Cedar Lodge, and the energy is high despite some serious sleep deprivation. Big Cat and the crew have been living together in a cabin all week, which led to the creation of the "Mega Bed"—pushing two queen beds together to form an Alaskan King-sized sleep surface. While it sounds like a bonding dream, it quickly turned into a logistical nightmare of flashlight-in-the-eye wake-up calls and Zac's 5:30 AM alarm for a 7:00 AM tee time.

Void
Aug 15, 2025
#4487
Big CatBig Cat

The 'Mega Bed' changed my life

I initially scoffed it because it was a long day of travel. I was tired. It was late. But then the next day I was like, you know what Zac, we got a mega bed. You were right. We mega Beded... mega bed changed my life.

Before getting into the heavy football talk, the crew hit some national headlines, including Mike Vrabel continuing his streak of being the most intense person at any training camp. PFT is ready for the former Titans coach to just start hitting people again in Cleveland.

Void
Aug 15, 2025
#4488
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mike Vrabel breaking up fights is a culture changer for the Browns

Mike Vrabel has broken up a fight at training camp. I love this. Yeah. So Vrabel broke up another fight. Dove in... I love that vrs is doing this... that's culture. That's a culture changer.

Mount Rushmore of Things We Don’t Get the Hype About

This might be one of the most controversial drafts in the history of the show. The goal wasn't necessarily to pick things that suck, but things where the level of national excitement simply doesn't match the reality of the product. Big Cat and Zac immediately attacked the Stanley Cup craze, pointing out that it is, at the end of the day, just a cup with a straw.

Void
Aug 15, 2025·Mt. Rushmore
#4490
Big CatBig Cat

The Stanley Cup tumbler craze is overhyped because it is just a cup

We're gonna take Stanley cups, drinkware, the big fucking Stanley Cups that everyone goes crazy about. All the women love it. Don't understand the hypes... It's literally just a cup... they're almost like beanie babies, like the newer version of Beanie Babies where people collect different colors.

Max went after soccer, calling it the most boring sport to watch for 90 minutes, while Big Cat took a swing at the Taylor Swift "Easter Egg" hunters who treat every outfit change like a Da Vinci Code mystery.

Void
Aug 15, 2025·Mt. Rushmore
#4494
Big CatBig Cat

Taylor Swift Easter Eggs are stupid and overhyped

We're gonna take Taylor Swift Easter Eggs. Not Taylor Swift. The music, we understand the music... I, for the life of me do not understand when Taylor Swift just like matches a couple numbers... and everyone fucking goes full investigative journalism mode... it's fucking stupid.

Hank stayed true to his brand by going after Marvel movies, which led to a broader discussion about why adults are so obsessed with cheesy superhero tropes. The board also included cold plunges, which Max argues have become a weird status symbol for people who have it too easy and need to manufacture suffering.

Void
MaxMax

Cold plunges are a form of performative suffering for wealthy people

It was widely considered like one of the worst parts of our week when like everyone on our team had to do a cold plunge and then out of nowhere it has just become widely known as like the best thing that people are like paying to go do for luxury... life is so easy that they like to do something that makes them feel pain... I heard about this on a podcast.

Subjective take on the cultural motivation behind a fitness trend.

To round things out, Big Cat took a blowtorch to the most famous painting in history, calling the Mona Lisa a "shitty painting" that wouldn't even make the cut for his own house. Zac finished with a deep philosophical take on why everyone is in such a rush to be an adult when being a kid is clearly the superior lifestyle.

Void
Aug 15, 2025·Mt. Rushmore
#4498
ZacZac

The hype around being an adult is unmerited; everyone rushes to grow up for no reason

Being an adult, I don't understand the hype on like being an adult. Everyone. You're as growing up. Everyone was like, I can't wait to get older, get older, get older. And I'm like, why are we rushing these things?... I don't get the hype on everyone wanting to age so quickly... I just, not all the aspects are the best.

Coach Jon Gruden in the House

Coach Jon Gruden joined the guys in person to talk some ball and get everyone ready for the season. He’s been touring training camps and has some very strong feelings about the current state of the league. He’s all in on Dan Campbell and the culture being built in Detroit, citing the fact that their best players are also their hardest workers.

Win
Aug 15, 2025
#21022
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

Lions head coach Dan Campbell is the ideal leader because best players are the hardest workers

I love Dan Campbell, man, I don't like this guy. I love him. The lions have exactly what you're looking for when it comes to attitude, work ethic, and grinders... When you go through the locker room and your best players are the best workers and the leaders on the team, those are the cultures that work.

The Lions' continued success into 2024 and 2025 supports Gruden's analysis of their culture.

When it came to the quarterback position, Gruden was glowing about Joe Burrow. He thinks Burrow is the closest thing to a Triple Crown threat in the league right now and is his pick to walk away with the MVP hardware if the Bengals' defense can hold up their end of the bargain.

Loss
Aug 15, 2025
#4502
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

Joe Burrow will win the NFL MVP this season

NFL MVP this year... I just love Joe Burrow... This guy's close to winning a Triple Crown man past completion, percentage yards, touchdowns. And he gets outta trouble. He is tough as hell and he's such a cool guy, man. If they get a good defense, I'm not saying great if they get a good defense and get off to a good start... look out for Burrow into Bengals.

Joe Burrow did not win 2025 MVP. Bengals went 6-11. Stafford won.

Of course, Big Cat had to ask about Caleb Williams. Gruden didn't hold back on the rookie, noting that while the talent is there, the processing speed and accuracy have to improve significantly for the Bears to be a threat in the NFC North.

Void
Aug 15, 2025
#4508
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

Caleb Williams must speed up his processing to succeed in the NFL

Caleb Williams... His deep ball accuracy, his overall accuracy was not good. Yeah. His accuracy was not good. Hi. The clock in his head has to speed up man. He held the ball too long at Oklahoma. He held it too long at Southern County. He's holding it too long now. How do you coach that hard? You know?

Gruden also shared some love for the "two Bays," predicting big things for both Tampa and Green Bay. He’s particularly high on Jordan Love, noting a weird age-based coincidence involving Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre that suggests this could be Love's breakout Super Bowl year.

Loss
Aug 15, 2025
#4512
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

The Green Bay Packers will win the NFC this year

I love the Green Bay Packers man. I think they have a lot of depth... Aaron Rogers was 27 when he won his Super Bowl. Favre was 27 when he won his Super Bowl. Jordan loves 32. And my guy Jordan loves gonna be 27 in a couple weeks. I think they have the defense... I like the Packers man.

The Packers did not win the NFC. They went 9-8-1 and lost in the Wild Card. Seahawks won the NFC.

Fyre Fest of the Week

Fyre Fest was dominated by the cabin dynamics. Hank almost died from a rattlesnake encounter (or at least a picture of one), and Max had a wardrobe malfunction involving a hole in his shorts so large you could pass a football through it. But the real Fyre Fest was the "Flashlight Incident," where Max woke Big Cat up at 2:00 AM to ask legal questions about the podcast title using a flashlight pointed directly into Big Cat's eye mask.

If you see a guy in a cabin with a giant eagle tattoo across his chest waking up at 5:00 AM for no reason, just know Zac is ready to work.

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More Takes

Open
Aug 15, 2025
#21018
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The government should intervene to force streaming services into a bundled sports package

If you wanna be a sports fan in America, you are paying a shit load of money... You have to get all these streaming packages. I think the government is gonna try to break 'em up... or force them to merge bundle into a bundle back to cable.

The US government and FTC have shown increased interest in antitrust actions against tech bundles (or lack thereof), but no such forced 'sports bundle' has been legislated yet.
Open
Aug 15, 2025
#4489
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The government will eventually force streaming services back into bundled packages for sports fans

I think the government is gonna try to break 'em up... or force them to merge bundle into a bundle back to cable... They're gonna bundle 'em. Hopefully that happens soon because it is fucking expensive.

While regulatory scrutiny has increased, a forced 'sports bundle' mandate has not happened yet.
Loss
Aug 15, 2025
#21019
Big CatBig Cat

The Milwaukee Brewers' 12-game win streak will inevitably end and they will blow their lead to the Cubs

The brewers are up eight games now. It happened in like two seconds... I think you guys just got out to a hot start... This is by the way, the Ultimate Loser talk that I'm just trying to find Solace being like we didn't blow the lead.

The Brewers actually sustained their lead and won the NL Central in 2024, making this take incorrect.
Void
Aug 15, 2025·Mt. Rushmore
#4492
MaxMax

Soccer is the most boring popular sport in the world

Soccer? Don't under don't understand. It's the most popular sport in the world. Yep. By far. Yep. And I watch a game and it seems so fucking boring. Like I get the moment that you get the goal is very fun. But every other moment in between it is like, when are they gonna fucking do something?

Void
HankHank

Marvel movies are overhyped and cheesy for adults

I don't understand the hype as an adult is Marvel movies... I like good movies, but... the Marvel movies being like, you know, people like camping out for Marvel for superhero movies... it never made sense to me when they're like cheesy superhero movies.

This is a subjective opinion on the quality of a film franchise.
Void
Aug 15, 2025·Mt. Rushmore
#4495
Big CatBig Cat

The Mona Lisa is an ugly, shitty, overhyped painting

We don't understand the hype of the Mona Lisa whatsoever. It's a fucking chick. And she's ugly. I don't get it... It's a fucking painting. It's so dumb. It's so hyped... It's a shitty painting. If you put that up in my house, it'd be like, take it down. She's ugly.

Void
Aug 15, 2025·Mt. Rushmore
#4499
Big CatBig Cat

AI is overhyped and will likely ruin everyone's life

I don't get the hype on ai. I feel like at best it's gonna just like, ruin everyone's life. Except for like a few people who will make all the money... I don't get why anyone is like pro ai... this could be really bad for everyone.

Loss
Aug 15, 2025
#4504
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

The Carolina Panthers are on the rise because Bryce Young showed significant improvement late last season

A team on the rise I think is Carolina... I we're pounding the drum beat Bryce Young... And I did not know I liked him as much as I did. And when you look at his last three or four games, five games, it was impressive. Yeah. I love the additions they've made.

The Panthers continued to struggle in early 2024, leading to Bryce Young being benched early in the season.
Void
Aug 15, 2025
#4506
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

The Rams are not a good team without Matthew Stafford

I saw the Rams without Stafford a couple years ago. They're last in the league on third down. They can't make a yard. Yeah. The Rams are not very good at all without Stafford. I mean, let's just face it, that guy's a hell of a talent throwing the ball... there's a step down, big step down if he's not there.

Loss
Aug 15, 2025
#4510
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

The Buccaneers will win the NFC South and reach the NFC Championship Game

I like the bucks to easily win the south. And I think they're going to the NFC championship game. Don't for, don't forget they kicked Philadelphia's ass last year... This is a good team. Four straight division titles they've won and I think they're gonna be better this year.

The Buccaneers finished 8-9, missed the playoffs, and did not win the NFC South (Panthers did on tiebreaker).

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