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Conor Dwyer and Michael Phelps 08/17/16

Wednesday, August 17, 201618 takes

Olympics and a breakdown of who is the alpha dog amongst the NBC analysts. Mt Rushmore of backup QB's. Olympic gold medalist Conor Dwyer joins the show to talk about Rio and peeing in pools as well as a phone call to Michael Phelps. Segments include "Thoughts and Prayers" for Colin Kaepernick and Danny Kanell's travel woes. Spinzone for Aaron Hernandez. Debut of the segment "Protect The Shield" and "Please Respect The Biz" for the reporter denied a Jadeveon Clowney interview.

Conor Dwyer and Michael Phelps on Rio, Peeping in Pools, and Backup QBs

Big Cat and PFT are coming to you live from the Barstool Summit in Nantucket, rocking Hawaiian shirts and dealing with the internal strife that only a blue Twitter checkmark can provide. While Big Cat is leaning into his new status as a verified member of the establishment, PFT is already envisioning the downfall of the program.

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Aug 17, 2016
#11205
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The PMT hosts will eventually break up due to drug addictions and the Twitter checkmark

I can't wait for the behind the scenes, behind the music when we like both develop drug addictions and get into fights and break up with each other. I think that's going to happen sooner rather than later. And the root cause is going to be this [Twitter] checkmark.

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The show is still going strong nearly a decade later with the same core hosts, and Twitter verification eventually became a paid service rather than a status symbol.

The Alpha Dogs of NBC and Rio Trash Fires

The Olympics are still chugging along in Rio, and the guys are starting to feel the fatigue. Between track stars diving across the finish line and literal dumpster fires threatening the cycling course, it’s been a wild ride. PFT defended Shaunae Miller’s tactical dive over Allyson Felix, comparing it to the grit of a baseball grinder.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Shaunae Miller crossed the finish line faster because she dove.

Like, why would you not dive? Right. It doesn't make any sense. Like, she crossed the finish line faster because she dove. David Eckstein... That guy used to dive into first base all the time. Nobody ever said he wasn't fast.

The dive was legal and she did win, so the claim that it made her faster/win is correct in the context of the race result.

When they weren't debating track etiquette, the conversation turned to the hierarchy of the NBC broadcast team. Between Al Michaels, Dan Patrick, and Mike Tirico, there is a lot of ego in one room. However, one man stands above the rest after a legendary gym sighting.

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Big CatBig Cat

Bob Costas is the alpha dog of NBC sports because he lifts in jeans

It was revealed that Costas walked into the weight room with jeans on and just did upper body. I saw it down here. I went to the gym and Bob Costas strolled in in jeans, t-shirt, sneakers, jeans, but he was just doing upper body. That's a savage move. That's a short man move. All chest, no legs.

Broadly subjective, but the gym story became a piece of sports media lore.

While Costas has the seniority and the denim-heavy workout routine, Big Cat is ready to crown a new king of the broadcast booth as Mike Tirico prepares to take over the keys to the castle.

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Big CatBig Cat

Mike Tirico is the best sports announcer to listen to right now

Mike Tirico might be my favorite guy to listen to. It's probably Al Michaels still maybe has it because of who he is and what he's done. But Mike Tirico might be my favorite guy to listen to.

This is a subjective opinion on broadcasting quality.

Mount Rushmore of Backup Quarterbacks

Inspired by Charlie Casserly’s bold claim that Geno Smith is the best backup in the league, the guys put together a definitive Mount Rushmore of the guys who hold the clipboards. The criteria was simple: they have to look good in shorts, not rock the boat, and ideally have a very specific type of muscle definition.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Christian Ponder has the perfect look of a really good backup quarterback.

I would say that Christian Ponder has the look of a really good backup quarterback. Every good starting quarterback has a little something weird about him. But Ponder is just like, he's a good looking guy. He's just kind of, he's neutral. He's got some muscles. Like you said, he looks good in shorts and a t-shirt. Absolutely. He looks good.

Ponder's status as a 'prototypical backup' is a matter of opinion, though he did spend the majority of his later career in that role.

Big Cat, a self-proclaimed connoisseur of the position, went deep into the Bears' archives, highlighting guys like Caleb Hanie and the man who simply refused to allow controversy in the locker room.

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Big CatBig Cat

Josh McCown is the perfect backup quarterback

Josh McCown is the perfect backup quarterback. Because he doesn't rock the boat. He's just good enough to maybe show a little flash here and there. But then if you have to have him play more than a couple games, you're like, okay. He looks good in a set of front pleated khakis.

McCown is widely considered one of the most respected career backups in NFL history.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyle Orton belongs on the Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks.

Kyle Orton, come on. Of course.

Mount Rushmore picks are inherently subjective.

Not to be outdone, PFT and Hank threw out names that defined the era of the "emergency" starter. Whether it was the Hefty Lefty or the guy you call five years into his retirement because your starter went down in the second week of the preseason, the list was exhaustive.

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Jared Lorenzen is a Mount Rushmore backup quarterback

Friend of the program, Jared Lorenzen. Yes. Has a Super Bowl ring. People forget that.

Subjective, but Lorenzen is an iconic PMT figure and backup QB.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jeff Garcia is the quintessential emergency backup quarterback

Jeff Garcia. Oh, man. Dude, he was one of those guys where if your quarterback got injured in the preseason – It could be like five years after Garcia retired. You're going to make a call to Garcia's agent. He's a name that should get thrown around a lot more.

Subjective opinion on Garcia's legacy as a journeyman/backup starter.

Conor Dwyer and the Michael Phelps Cameo

Olympic gold medalist Conor Dwyer joined the show straight from Rio to give the real dirt on the Olympic Village. From the plumbing issues in a suite shared with Ryan Lochte to the infamous green diving pool, Dwyer didn't hold back. He even confirmed that yes, every single swimmer is peeing in the pool constantly. Dwyer also touched on the stress of even making the team in the first place.

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Aug 17, 2016
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Conor DwyerConor Dwyer

The US Olympic swimming trials are more stressful than the actual Olympics

It's really challenging to get on that U.S. team. The Olympic trials is, I would say – more stressful than the Olympics. Uh, so just, just to get on the team, um, was a relief.

This is a common sentiment among elite US swimmers due to the depth of the US talent pool.

The interview took a legendary turn when Dwyer actually got Michael Phelps on the phone. While the connection from Rio was a bit spotty, the G.O.A.T. himself weighed in on his retirement and his relationship with Ray Lewis. Dwyer also gave his thoughts on some other athletes trying their hand at his sport, specifically how long it would take the King to dominate the pool.

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Aug 17, 2016
#11230
Conor DwyerConor Dwyer

LeBron James could become the world's best 50m freestyle swimmer in two years.

[Big Cat]: If LeBron were to try his hand at swimming how long do you think it would take him to become the best in the world in the 50? [Dwyer]: 50? Two years. That guy's pretty athletic.

LeBron never attempted to become a competitive swimmer, so this hypothetical cannot be verified.

Thoughts, Prayers, and The Shield

Segments included a check-in on Colin Kaepernick’s "dead arm," which PFT views as a massive developmental opportunity for the 49ers quarterback.

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Colin Kaepernick's dead arm is a blessing in disguise because it will make him a 'touch' passer

Dead arm was the best thing that could have happened to Colin Kaepernick. Now he's a touch guy. Great. Now he's Chad Pennington. It's like a reverse rookie of the year happens. Yes, yes. And he needs to cash in on it.

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Kaepernick's career ended shortly after due to off-field controversy rather than a transformation into a touch passer.

They also introduced "Protect The Shield," a look at Roger Goodell’s latest power play against James Harrison and others regarding the Al Jazeera PED report. The guys pointed out the suspicious timing of the investigation relative to a certain retired legend’s exit from the league.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Peyton Manning was using inferior steroids compared to James Harrison

I think what we can clearly tell is that if James Harrison was doing steroids and if Peyton Manning was doing steroids, Peyton Manning was doing way shittier steroids than James Harrison. Those were not from the same steroid guy.

Satirical take based on body type; Manning was cleared by the NFL, while Harrison and others remained under investigation at the time.

The show wrapped up with a very serious discussion about fruit hygiene. While most of society prefers a clean snack, PFT and Big Cat are standing their ground against the Big Apple industry.

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Aug 17, 2016
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You shouldn't wash your apples before eating them because the dirt is the best part.

[Big Cat: Do you wash your apples?] Absolutely not. Neither do I. The dirt is definitely the best part of the apple. It's Monsanto. You wipe all the Monsanto off the apple when you wash it. And that's where all the flavor comes.

This is a humorous and subjective lifestyle choice.

If you see Bob Costas in the weight room this week, make sure you don't mention his leg day routine.

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Sean McDonough will not disagree with Jon Gruden once in his first six weeks on Monday Night Football

Find me one time that [Sean] McDonough disagrees with [Jon] Gruden in the first six weeks and I'll call you a liar. McDonough is like, he's coming in there looking at Gruden like the cool guy in town. And so he's going to be pulling out all this. He's just going to be agreeing with Gruden nonstop.

While McDonough was more of a traditional play-by-play man, he did occasionally offer slight Pushback, though the booth was famously Gruden-centric.
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Aug 17, 2016
#27104
Conor DwyerConor Dwyer

The Ryan Lochte robbery story in Rio was blown out of proportion.

I think some of it was blown out of proportion, but I'm glad I wasn't with him and got robbed.

Whether it was 'blown out of proportion' is a matter of perspective, though Lochte was eventually charged with making a false report.
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Aug 17, 2016
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Conor DwyerConor Dwyer

Tim Tebow does not have a chance to make it in the Major Leagues

I i love to root for tebow i'd love to see love to see him get it done but i i don't know if that's possible

Tebow played in the Mets minor league system for several years but retired in 2021 without ever being called up to the Major Leagues.
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Aug 17, 2016
#27106
Big CatBig Cat

If you give a gorilla enough time, they will cradle and protect a human baby.

20 year anniversary for the Brookfield Zoo, a small toddler fell into the zoo and the gorilla Binti Jua saved the toddler's life, nursed it, cuddled it, made sure that it was safe. So basically, if you give a gorilla enough time, they'll probably cradle a baby and make sure they're safe. Just saying. We're winking right now very hard.

While Binti Jua did protect a child, the general behavior of gorillas in such scenarios is a matter of intense debate and varies by individual animal and situation.

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