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Eddie George, NFL Draft Recap, And Monday Reading - The Definition Of Cheugy

Monday, May 3, 202114 takes

The NFL Draft is complete and we recap with grades, stories, and Belichick's new language that he invented ( - ). Kentucky Derby and Aaron Rodgers looks like he's wilting away ( - ). Who's back of the week including Manchester United fans storming the pitch ( - ). Awesome interview with Heisman trophy winner Eddie George about his new coaching gig, winning the Heisman, doghouses, Jeff Fisher and more ( - ). We finish with Monday Reading from the NY Times on the definition of Cheugy.

Eddie George on NFL Draft Recap, Madden Covers, and Cheugy Culture

The 2021 NFL Draft is officially in the books, and while Big Cat is floating on a cloud of Justin Fields-induced euphoria, the rest of the league is left picking up the pieces. Kyle Shanahan finally ended the Trey Lance vs. Mac Jones drama by taking the North Dakota State product at number three, but PFT isn't entirely sold on the fit, mostly because of Shanahan's track record with his signal-callers.

Void
May 3, 2021
#12706
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyle Shanahan is a quarterback killer

He might be a quarterback killer. If you go back and you look at the quarterbacks that have played under Kyle Shanahan, they put up good stats occasionally, but then after he leaves, it all goes to shit. He's had Johnny Manziel, RG3, that's Rex Grossman III, also the other RG3, John Beck, Matt Schaub, Matt Ryan, who never won another MVP after Kyle Shanahan, and then Jimmy Garoppolo.

While several QBs did see drop-offs, Matt Ryan remained productive for years, and others like Manziel had non-football issues. It is a debatable but strong opinion.

One of the biggest stories of the weekend wasn't just who got picked, but who didn't know about it. Chris Sims, who literally has Kyle Shanahan's initials tattooed on his body, was left completely in the dark about the Lance pick.

Win
May 3, 2021
#24787
Big CatBig Cat

The 49ers did an incredible job of keeping the Trey Lance pick a secret from everyone, including their closest friends

I listened to [Chris Sims'] show on Friday with our internet uncle... it was very clear that Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers did do a good job of telling absolutely no one because I think Chris Sims was like, this is really fucked up. I have this guy's initials on my ankle, and he didn't tell me that they were taking Trey Lance. It actually proved that Kyle Shanahan was right to lie to his best friend.

The 49ers' pick was widely considered a surprise (most expected Mac Jones) until the final moments, confirming the secrecy was effective.

Across the league, teams showed their true colors. The Lions under Dan "Man" Campbell drafted a bunch of guys who want to eat kneecaps and make people feel like shit, which is exactly the brand. Meanwhile, the Cardinals continued their trend of building around their franchise quarterback by surrounding him with players who won't make him look small on the sideline.

Win
May 3, 2021
#12707
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cardinals are dedicated to rebuilding their franchise using 'short kings'

I've noticed that the Cardinals are kind of dedicated to rebuilding their franchise using short kings. So, Andy Isabella... Rondale Moore, that's the guy from Purdue, right? He's awesome. Short king that squats like 700 pounds or whatever. It's partially that you don't want Kyler [Murray] to be shorter than all of his receiving options.

The Cardinals did draft several notably short receivers (Moore is 5'7", Isabella is 5'9") during the Kyler Murray era.

Big Cat was particularly critical of the Jaguars taking Travis Etienne at 25. Even though the chemistry with Trevor Lawrence is a nice story, the value of a first-round back remains the biggest debate in every war room.

Void
May 3, 2021
#12709
Big CatBig Cat

Running back is the one position you don't take in the first round

Running back is the one position you don't take in the first round and I know there's obviously people can go back and forth... it just feels like the running back position you can usually find a guy who's 90% the abilities of a first round guy in the third and fourth.

This is an ongoing debate in NFL analytics and roster construction with no definitive 'correct' answer, but it's a widely held modern view.

The Aaron Rodgers Hunger Strike

Away from the draft podium, Aaron Rodgers spent his Kentucky Derby weekend looking like a "goth magician" and fueling rumors that he wants out of Green Bay. PFT has a specific strategy for how Rodgers can get his way and force the Packers' hand.

Loss
May 3, 2021
#12710
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers should go on a public hunger strike to get traded

Aaron Rodgers, I know you listen to the show... do a public hunger strike. Have a live cam on you, do a stream and prove that you're not going to eat anything until either they fire this guy [Gutenkunst] or you get traded to whatever. If anybody's the type of personality to try doing like a Gandhi technique, it's Aaron Rodgers.

Rodgers did not go on a hunger strike; he eventually returned to the Packers before being traded years later.

Eddie George on the Titans and the Hall of Fame

Titans legend and new Tennessee State head coach Eddie George joined the show to talk about jumping into the coaching ranks. He revealed that our good friend Jeff Fisher was the one who talked him off the ledge and convinced him to take the job. Eddie also took some time to stump for his old lead blocker, Lorenzo Neal, who he believes is the biggest omission from Canton.

Loss
May 3, 2021
#12713
Eddie GeorgeEddie George

Lorenzo Neal belongs in the NFL Hall of Fame

I personally do [think he belongs in the Hall of Fame]... I don't know what the credentials or the criteria is for a fullback, but the man has blocked for me, LaDainian Tomlinson, who's in the Hall of Fame, Corey Dillon, who's in the Hall of Fame, Adrian Murrell. I think everybody that ran behind Lorenzo has had a breakout year. And he would do things that most fullbacks wouldn't do.

Lorenzo Neal has not been inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame as of 2024, despite being a 3-time All-Pro and 4-time Pro-Bowler.

While Eddie is most famous for his Heisman Trophy, Big Cat pointed out that he holds an even more exclusive title: the first-ever player to grace the cover of Madden. It’s a feat that officially makes him one-of-one in the history of the franchise.

Void
May 3, 2021
#12714
Eddie GeorgeEddie George

Being the first Madden cover athlete is a more iconic accomplishment than winning the Heisman

I'd never thought of that as an accomplishment. But now that you mentioned it, you're absolutely correct. That is an iconic game... If you go back to that first game that I was on, I mean, everybody looks the exact same. Running backs look like linemen. Linemen look like corners... I'm one of one.

Subjective comparison of two massive accolades, but George holds both so he is the primary authority.

Who's Back and Monday Reading

For Who's Back of the Week, the guys covered everything from soccer hooligans at Old Trafford to the return of crowd fights at boxing matches. PFT also issued a warning for the upcoming summer months regarding a spike in elective surgeries.

Void
May 3, 2021·Who's Back
#12711
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

This summer will be the 'Summer of Fake Butts' due to people getting surgery while the world was on pause

I have a theory. This is going to be the summer of fake butts. The Roaring Twenties. My theory is that a lot of people got elective cosmetic surgery during this year that the world hit pause. And this summer, you're going to see a lot of fake asses that come out of nowhere.

A subjective observation about post-lockdown aesthetics that fits PFT's comedic style.

We wrapped up with a Monday Reading from the New York Times about the term "Cheugy." Apparently, if you like Gucci belts, The Office, or Barstool Sports, you're officially out of touch. PFT pointed out the irony of a major publication trying to define a TikTok trend.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Writing an article about what is 'cheugy' is the most 'cheugy' thing you can do

I think the most cheugy thing you can do is to write an article about whether something is cheugy or not.

The take accurately reflects the internet sentiment that once the NYT covers a slang term, that term is officially 'dead' or uncool.

At the end of the day, being "Cheugy" is just another way for people to feel superior about their own niche interests, and we're perfectly fine leaning into it.

If you see a mantis shrimp in the wild, just remember it has the world's fastest punch and stay out of the way.

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Win
May 3, 2021
#24788
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 'Nate Sudfeld game' from Week 17 will have a massive impact on the NFC East for years to come

If you look at the Nate Sudfeld game, the impact that that game is going to have in the NFC Beast for years to come is actually kind of crazy. It's just rolling Nate Sudfeld out on the game in Week 17.

The draft pick the Eagles secured (and traded) led to DeVonta Smith, and the ripple effects of that tanking game were felt for several seasons in division rivalries.
Loss
May 3, 2021
#12708
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Trevor Lawrence will be good enough to make Urban Meyer's NFL career look successful in hindsight

I keep going back and forth, and I don't like Urban Meyer, but I think Trevor Lawrence is going to be good enough to make Urban Meyer's NFL career appear successful in hindsight.

This was very incorrect. Trevor Lawrence did not make Urban Meyer look successful; Meyer was fired mid-season after a series of scandals and poor results.
Void
May 3, 2021·Who's Back
#12712
Big CatBig Cat

Lou Dort is the best on-ball defender in the NBA

He is absolutely the best on-ball defender. He will lock you down. Lou Dort, he's the best. Dort-your-chamber.

While elite, 'best' is subjective. Dort is consistently ranked among the top perimeter defenders but often behind players like Jrue Holiday or Marcus Smart in DPOY voting.
Void
May 3, 2021·Who's Back
#24789
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Diamondbacks 'first date' viral moment was a set-up between a YouTuber and multiple brands

I also have a big stay woke on it. The fact that it was a famous YouTuber that was setting this up in conjunction with three separate brands at once, it set off a lot of alarms for me.

The event was widely debated as a possible marketing stunt given the YouTuber involved, making it a plausible but unproven claim.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Everything is 'cheugy' if someone dislikes you enough to label you as such

I think everything can be cheugy. Everything can be cheugy if somebody dislikes you enough to want to force you into a cheugy category.

This accurately describes the lifecycle of internet 'cringe' and 'basic' labels, which are fundamentally subjective.

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