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Monday, February 20, 201721 takes

NBA All Star Weekend and Kyrie Irving thinks the world is flat ( - ). Tiger Woods Memorial Who's Back Of The Week ( - ). ESPN's Trey Wingo joins the show to talk about the NFL, what it's like to do live TV every day, how much his name has benefited his career, and whether or not he smokes weed when he golfs (he doesn't, we made that up) ( - ). Segments include PR 101 for the Dunk Contest. Thoughts and Prayers to Carmelo Anthony. The debut of Tony Romo watch. Hmmmm. Parental Advisory and That's Enough Internet For Today.

Trey Wingo on NFL Live, the Brady vs. Manning Debate, and NBA Flat Earthers

NBA All-Star weekend just wrapped up in New Orleans, and the city continues to be the undisputed heavyweight champion of hosting sports fans. PFT believes there is a legal requirement for everyone to praise the Big Easy the second a camera turns on.

Void
Feb 20, 2017
#27742
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Every Super Bowl and All-Star game should be held in New Orleans

Anytime you have a big sporting event in New Orleans, you're contractually obligated to say, why don't they just have every Super Bowl and All-Star game in New Orleans?

The quality of a host city is inherently a matter of opinion.

The biggest story of the weekend wasn't the actual basketball, though. It was Kyrie Irving blowing everyone's minds by suggesting the world is flat. While some journalists were busy worrying about the impressionable children, Big Cat saw right through the noise.

Void
Feb 20, 2017
#13505
Big CatBig Cat

Kyrie Irving's flat earth comments were likely a headline grab or a prank on the media

Kyrie Irving... let's just call a spade a spade, he was doing this for headlines. I can't decide if it's either a headline for the podcast... or if it was simply all the NBA players getting together and being like, 'Let's prank the media. Let's fuck with them.'

The internal motivation for Kyrie Irving's comments is impossible to definitively verify.

Speaking of strange vibes, Guy Fieri was everywhere in New Orleans, basically filling the void left by a missing Kevin Hart. PFT thinks we are witnessing the rise of a new American deity.

Void
Feb 20, 2017
#27743
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Guy Fieri is the closest thing America has to producing its own Jesus

I don't think I'm going overboard when I say it, but Guy Fieri is probably as close as Americans will get to producing our own Jesus.

Whether a celebrity is a messianic figure is a matter of comedic opinion.

Russell Westbrook and the Friends with Benefits Era

The guys also broke down the awkward dynamic between Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant. They finally connected on an alley-oop, which felt like a massive weight being lifted off the entire league, though PFT has a very specific analogy for that brief moment of connection.

Void
Feb 20, 2017
#27744
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook are officially 'friends with benefits' after their All-Star Game alley-oop

An alley-oop is kind of like makeup sex. You connect in that one little instant, and you're like, yeah, I remember this whole relationship could be a lot of fun. I'll just say that they're friends with benefits now.

This is a humorous characterization of a professional relationship.

As for the rest of the NBA elite, the conversation naturally turned to LeBron James and his place in the global power structure. Big Cat is starting to see the signs that LeBron might be moving in more exclusive circles than just the All-NBA First Team.

Loss
Feb 20, 2017
#27745
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is likely a member of the Illuminati

LeBron at this point, can we all just admit that he's probably part of the Illuminati? At least he's an ancillary part of the Illuminati with Jay-Z and all that shit.

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There is no verifiable evidence that LeBron James belongs to a secret world-controlling organization.

Trey Wingo on the NFL and the GOAT Debate

ESPN's Trey Wingo joined the show to discuss the grind of live TV and his surprisingly deep closet. While he tried to dodge some of the more aggressive investigative journalism regarding his golf habits, he didn't hold back on the state of Tiger Woods' career.

Loss
Feb 20, 2017
#13506
Trey WingoTrey Wingo

Tiger Woods will never win another major

Tiger's never coming back... I would love to see him win a major, but I don't think it's going to happen.

Tiger Woods won his 15th major championship at the 2019 Masters.

Wingo also waded into the Tom Brady vs. Peyton Manning debate. He brought a professional's perspective to the table, arguing that we shouldn't just count rings when evaluating individual greatness, especially considering the coaching advantage in New England.

Void
Feb 20, 2017
#13507
Trey WingoTrey Wingo

Peyton Manning's success with multiple coaches gives him a valid argument over Tom Brady

Brady has had the luxury of being with, and I think this is not debatable, the greatest coach in the history of football... I know what Peyton Manning is away from the Colts or Tony Dungy. He's been to a Super Bowl with four different head coaches. He's won a Super Bowl with two different head coaches.

This is a subjective historical debate, though Brady later winning a Super Bowl with the Buccaneers (a second coach/system) largely neutralized this specific argument.

He also gave some love to the elite-haired Joe Flacco for his legendary playoff run, while clarifying his stance on how we should actually judge these quarterbacks.

Void
Feb 20, 2017
#13508
Trey WingoTrey Wingo

Wins and losses should not be considered a quarterback stat

I don't think wins and losses are a quarterback stat. I don't believe in that... Teams win games. Teams win championships. It's not Tom [Brady]. It's not Malcolm [Butler]. The Patriots won that game.

This is an ongoing philosophical debate in sports analytics and media.

Tony Romo Watch and the Dunk Contest

The Dunk Contest was a bit of a letdown this year, mostly because it feels like we've seen everything the human body can do in the air. PFT thinks the saturation of the market is reaching a breaking point.

Void
Feb 20, 2017·PR 101
#13514
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Dunk Contest is boring because there are a finite amount of body positions possible

It's not like the dunks aren't super impressive. It's just that we've seen every dunk. It's like watching porn. There's a finite amount of body positions that the human form can get into. Eventually, you just get bored with it.

This is a subjective opinion on entertainment fatigue.

Then there is the ongoing saga of Carmelo Anthony. Melo had to cancel a vacation to Puerto Rico because he was named an All-Star injury replacement, a "downer" that Big Cat has very little sympathy for given Melo's career choices.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Carmelo Anthony's legacy is choosing the most money over winning championships

Thoughts and prayers to the man [Carmelo Anthony] who has taken every single dollar at every turn in his career instead of maybe trying to win a championship... He took the most amount of money to stay in the dumpster fire that is New York. That's kind of your situation, Melo.

This is a subjective interpretation of Anthony's career choices and legacy.

Finally, the show officially launched Tony Romo Watch. With the Cowboys likely moving on, the guys made their predictions for where the veteran QB will land. Big Cat is looking at the AFC South, while PFT and Hank have their own theories on who wants to deal with that fourth-quarter stress.

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Big CatBig Cat

Tony Romo will be the quarterback for the Houston Texans next season

I'm going to say right now I think [Tony Romo] is going to the Texans.

Tony Romo retired from the NFL in April 2017 to join CBS Sports as a color analyst.
Loss
HankHank

Tony Romo will sign with the Los Angeles Rams

I think he's going to the Los Angeles Rams. Sleeper.

Romo retired to join CBS Sports and never played for the Rams.

If Tony Romo ends up on the Rams, we might have to officially retire Hank from making predictions forever.

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More Takes

Void
Feb 20, 2017·Who's Back
#27746
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill Belichick narrating a WWII documentary is a clever PR move to deflect from 'Patriots are Nazis' comparisons

It's a great way to steer people away from the New England Patriots or Nazis takes because you're like, actually, our coach is narrating a documentary about killing Nazis.

The intention behind a media move is speculative and subjective.
Void
Feb 20, 2017·Who's Back
#27747
HankHank

Day parties are officially back

My who's back of the week is day parties. Huge weekend. 60 degrees out of nowhere in February. So basically, usually college kids will go through the winter depression, and then there was that one nice weekend that kicks off the rest of the spring semester.

The 'status' of social trends is a matter of opinion.
Void
Feb 20, 2017
#20161
Trey WingoTrey Wingo

Flacco had the greatest playoff run I've ever seen on the way to Super Bowl 47, and his hair is elite

His hair is elite. Not as elite as yours, but his hair is elite. [Joe Flacco] had the greatest run I've ever seen on the way to Super Bowl 47.

Flacco's 2012 playoff run (11 TDs, 0 INTs, 117.2 passer rating) is genuinely regarded as one of the best ever. 'Greatest ever' is subjective but defensible.
Loss
Feb 20, 2017
#27748
Trey WingoTrey Wingo

Super Bowl 51 will be the highest-scoring Super Bowl in history

I think the team with the ball last wins. That's what it's going to be. Highest scoring Super Bowl in history. Mark it down. Breaking news.

Super Bowl 51 ended with 62 total points. The record at the time (and still) was Super Bowl 29 with 75 total points.
Win
Big CatBig Cat

Carmelo Anthony will likely stay in New York because no other team wants him

Do you think that Melo is going to be staying put in New York for the rest of the season, or do you think he's moving? [Big Cat]: I think he's probably staying put because no one wants him on his team, unless they're trying to win an All-Star game or an Olympic.

Carmelo Anthony remained with the Knicks through the end of the 2016-17 season, eventually being traded to the Thunder in September 2017.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tony Romo will join the Denver Broncos

I'm going to go with the Broncos.

Romo retired to join CBS Sports and never played for the Broncos.
Loss
Feb 20, 2017
#13512
HankHank

Bryce Harper doesn't have the balls to turn down the Yankees for the Red Sox

Me and Hank had a little conversation about Bryce Harper... and we're hearing rumors... that he might be going to the Red Sox. [Hank]: There's no chance. That'd be awesome. But he doesn't have the balls to do that to the Yankees. He can't turn down that money to come to the Red Sox.

Bryce Harper remained with the Nationals through 2018 and eventually signed a massive 13-year contract with the Philadelphia Phillies in 2019.
Void
Feb 20, 2017·Hmm
#27750
Big CatBig Cat

Mark Cuban would be a disaster as President of the United States

I think [Mark Cuban] is just doing 46 because he wants to be the 46th president... He would be a disaster.

Speculation on a person's hypothetical performance in office is a matter of opinion.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Greg Maddux could still be an effective middle reliever in Major League Baseball

My dad said that Greg Maddux could definitely still be a middle reliever for a team in 2017. I believe it. Yeah.

Greg Maddux had been retired for nine years by 2017 and was 50 years old; his return to MLB was not physically viable.

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