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Former NFL GM Mike Lombardi + NFL Week 3 Recap And Tiger Is Back

Monday, September 24, 201820 takes

NFL Week 3 Fastest 2 minutes ( - ). Recap of a wild NFL week including Jimmy G injury ( - ), Patrick Mahomes on fire, the Bills stunner at the Vikings, the Rams are a wagon, the Patriots look slow, and we hang the Done Chain on a team ( - ). College Football talk and Who's back of the week ( - ). Football guy of the week including an all time Nick Saban quote and Herm Edwards getting his players to lift for fun ( - ). Former NFL GM Mike Lombardi joins the show to talk about his new book, what it was like working for Bill Belichick and Al Davis, who he's been impressed with through 3 weeks of the NFL season, and why Josh Gordon may not work out in New England. Segments include whats the beef, Shaq vs Dwight Howard, Take Quake Baker Mayfield, Monday Reading Rick Pitino's tweets.

Mike Lombardi on NFL Culture, Week 3 Recap, and Tiger Woods is Back

Week 3 in the NFL was the weekend where everyone who thought they knew anything about football was proven to have shit for brains. The Bills walked into Minnesota as massive underdogs and absolutely dismantled the Vikings, punctuated by Josh Allen launching himself into the stratosphere over Anthony Barr. PFT was so impressed by the rookie’s mobility that he’s already ready to crown a new king of the dual-threat era.

Void
Sep 24, 2018
#8933
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Josh Allen is a better running quarterback than Cam Newton

Josh Allen, better running quarterback than Cam Newton.

While Josh Allen became one of the greatest running QBs ever, at the time of the take, Cam Newton was still the gold standard for power running at the position.

While Buffalo was finding life, things looked bleak in Houston. Deshaun Watson and the Texans fell to 0-3 after a sloppy loss to the Giants, prompting Big Cat and PFT to break out the jewelry.

Loss
Sep 24, 2018
#8934
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Done Chain is officially on the Houston Texans

I am going to hang the Done Chain on the Houston Texans. Done. Done. I'm done with them.

The 2018 Texans actually went on a 9-game winning streak after this and finished 11-5, winning the AFC South. This is a legendary 'cold take'.

PFT thinks the slow start for Watson isn't just a fluke, but a reality of the medical timeline that everyone chose to ignore during the offseason hype.

Loss
Sep 24, 2018
#8935
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Deshaun Watson will not have a great season due to his ACL recovery timeline

I didn't think that Deshaun Watson was going to have a great year this year because Adrian Peterson screwed it up for everybody by coming back from that ACL so quickly... It's going to be like a year and a half before he gets back to normal.

Watson actually had a very strong 2018, throwing for over 4,000 yards and 26 TDs while making the Pro Bowl.

The Mahomes Era and Patriot Panic

Patrick Mahomes continued his scorched-earth tour against the 49ers, leading the Chiefs to a 3-0 start. Big Cat isn't just sold on the MVP hype; he’s ready to build the statue in Canton before the kid even finishes his first full season as a starter.

Loss
Sep 24, 2018
#8937
Big CatBig Cat

Patrick Mahomes will win MVP and be inducted into the Hall of Fame in his rookie year

I think he's going to be the first player ever in his rookie year to win MVP and automatic induction to the Hall of Fame.

Mahomes did win MVP in 2018 (his second season, but first as a starter), but obviously didn't go to the HOF that year. He is however a lock for the future.

PFT remains slightly more cautious, mostly because history suggests that the Andy Reid experience usually comes with a seasonal expiration date.

Push
Sep 24, 2018
#24131
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Andy Reid's teams always take a sharp performance dip after Halloween

We all know that Andy [Reid], he takes a sharp dip after Halloween. He goes into stage two diabetes and never comes back.

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The 2018 Chiefs actually finished 12-4 and secured the #1 seed, though they lost in the AFC Championship. They went 5-3 after Halloween.

Meanwhile, the Patriots looked like they were running in cement against the Lions on Sunday Night Football. Despite the absolute lack of speed on both sides of the ball, Big Cat isn't ready to let the rest of the AFC East get their hopes up just yet.

Win
Sep 24, 2018
#24132
Big CatBig Cat

The Patriots will still win the AFC East despite their slow start

The Patriots are still going to probably win the AFC East, right? ... You could probably even say they'll go to the AFC Championship.

The Patriots won the AFC East at 11-5 and went on to win the Super Bowl.

Mike Lombardi on Gridiron Genius

Former NFL GM Mike Lombardi joined the show to discuss his new book and why certain teams are failing to build a winning culture. He didn't hold back on the Raiders' current situation, specifically questioning the investment in Derek Carr.

Void
Sep 24, 2018
#8943
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

Derek Carr is not worth a $20 million salary

I'm not sure that [Derek] Carr's worth the $20 million when you watch him play.

This remained a debate for Carr's entire Raiders career; he never reached elite tier despite high pay.

Lombardi also weighed in on the Patriots' acquisition of Josh Gordon. While the move screams "Patriot Way" to many, Lombardi believes Gordon's lack of passion for the grind will ultimately make him a poor fit in Foxborough.

Win
Sep 24, 2018
#8941
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

Josh Gordon will not have long-range success with the Patriots

I don't think [Josh Gordon] has long-range success written over it... because he's not passionate about football... If you're not willing to do the time and the effort into it, you're just going to get cast aside.

Gordon played 11 games for the Patriots in 2018 before stepping away for mental health reasons/suspension risk, and was eventually waived in 2019. It was not a long-term solution.

The conversation shifted to the dumpster fire in Dallas, where Lombardi offered a surprisingly defensive take on Dak Prescott, blaming the Cowboys' prehistoric offensive system rather than the quarterback’s talent.

Void
Sep 24, 2018
#8944
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

Dak Prescott is not the problem in Dallas, the scheme is

I don't think [Dak Prescott sucks]... I think their scheme is so bad. I think they do nothing to help them. I think if Sean McVay went and spent two weeks in Dallas, they'd probably score 30 points a week.

The Cowboys' offense improved significantly once they changed play-callers and eventually coaches (Kellen Moore/Mike McCarthy), suggesting Lombardi was onto something regarding the scheme.

Tiger Woods and Who's Back

Tiger Woods is officially, undeniably back after winning the Tour Championship. Even on a heavy NFL Sunday, the sight of Tiger in Sunday Red with the masses following him down the 18th fairway was enough to stop the world. Big Cat noted that Tiger’s gravity is so strong he broke through the football bubble.

Win
Sep 24, 2018·Who's Back
#8939
Big CatBig Cat

Tiger Woods is all the way back

Tiger Woods is all the way back. He won the Tour Championship... Tiger Woods still was able to break through to anyone who's even watching football who doesn't even care about golf.

Tiger went on to win the Masters in 2019, confirming he was indeed 'back' to winning at the highest level.

For Who's Back, PFT highlighted the return of the Joker, with Joaquin Phoenix taking on the role for a standalone film. PFT is making a very specific, high-stakes promise regarding the cast list.

Loss
Sep 24, 2018·Who's Back
#24133
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Batman will definitely appear in the upcoming Joker movie

Batman will be in [the Joker movie] at some point. That's my solemn promise to you is Batman will be in there at some point.

While a young Bruce Wayne appears, Batman does not appear in the 2019 Joker movie.

We wrapped things up with a Take Quake regarding Baker Mayfield’s phone and a Monday Reading of Rick Pitino’s new Twitter account. If you aren't ready to be a "Pituito," you better find a new podcast.

Laces out, Pituitos.

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Win
Sep 24, 2018
#8936
Big CatBig Cat

Andrew Luck's shoulder is not fully healthy

When the Colts wanted to go Hail Mary, they brought in Jacoby Brissett. Andrew Luck's shoulder... maybe not as healthy as we think it is.

Andrew Luck admitted later he didn't have the arm strength for a 60-yard throw at that point, though he finished the season strongly before retiring the following year due to injuries.
Loss
Sep 24, 2018
#8938
Big CatBig Cat

The Vikings will beat the Rams on Thursday Night Football

The Vikings are going to beat the Rams up Thursday night... Because the Rams are the best team in football, we can all agree... don't take anything the week before and put it on this week.

The Rams beat the Vikings 38-31 in a high-scoring game on Thursday night.
Win
Sep 24, 2018
#8940
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

The Rams have already won the NFC West

I'm about ready to give the Rams the NFC West title right now.

The Rams finished 13-3 and won the division easily.
Push
Sep 24, 2018
#8942
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

Dont'a Hightower can no longer play linebacker effectively

Hightower can't run like he used to run. And so he's really a defensive end. He can't play linebacker anymore.

While Hightower did age and slow down, he remained a starting linebacker for the Patriots' Super Bowl LIII winning team later that season.
Push
Sep 24, 2018
#24135
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

The 49ers are so bad defensively they could end up with the #1 overall pick in the draft

If they don't do something in San Francisco, they could easily be picking the first pick in the draft because with that defense, they haven't stopped anybody in three weeks.

The 49ers finished 4-12 and earned the #2 overall pick (Nick Bosa). The Cardinals got the #1 pick.
Loss
Sep 24, 2018
#8945
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

The 2018 Super Bowl will be Rams vs. Chiefs

I think it would be the Rams and the Chiefs, and probably the over would be at 70.

The Super Bowl was Patriots vs Rams. The Chiefs lost to the Patriots in the AFC Championship Game.
Win
Sep 24, 2018
#24136
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

The Miami Dolphins are pretenders despite their 3-0 start

I'm not buying Miami, even though they're 3-0.

Miami finished the 2018 season 7-9 and missed the playoffs.
Win
Sep 24, 2018
#24134
Mike LombardiMike Lombardi

Mitch Trubisky is not an instinctive quarterback and lacks the 'feel' for the position

When the game goes fast, I think it's hard for [Mitch Trubisky]. I think the reason he didn't play... at North Carolina is because it wasn't an instinctive position for him.

Trubisky eventually lost his starting job and is widely regarded as a draft bust, validating Lombardi's critique of his processing.
Void
Sep 24, 2018
#8946
Big CatBig Cat

Shaq and Dwight Howard are more alike than people realize in their sensitivity

Shaq and Dwight Howard are more alike than people realize... Shaq is kind of a fucking loser like that too, where he can joke... but if you come at him, he's kind of a baby about it.

This is a subjective character assessment that can't be definitively proven but matches public observations of both players.

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