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Future Hall of Famer Zack Martin In Studio, Week 8 Picks And Preview, NBA Gambling Controversy, Carson Wentz Horrible TNF + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Friday, October 24, 202521 takes

Carson Wentz did the incredible and made us feel bad for him after a terrible Thursday Night Football Performance. The Chargers look awesome with Joe Alt Back (-). NBA Has a big time gambling issue with arrests made on Thursday morning (-). World Series prediction (-). Week 8 picks and preview for every game, Jalen Hurts fortune cookies, Henrydog rooting against everything, the Cowboys attempting a record breaking field goal (-). Our best bets and Jerry's fantasy minute (-). Dallas Cowboy Zack Martin joins the show to talk about O-Line play, his career in Dallas, Notre Dame, Dak Prescott, winning the Pinstripe MVP and losing the trophy and tons more (-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (-).

Zack Martin on Cowboys, O-Line Secrets, and Week 8 NFL Picks

We reached a point on Thursday night that many of us thought was impossible: feeling genuine, human empathy for Carson Wentz. Watching him get pulverized by the Chargers while clearly dealing with a shoulder that refused to stay in its socket was a tough watch for everyone, even Big Cat.

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Oct 24, 2025
#11348
Big CatBig Cat

I feel bad for Carson Wentz for the first time

PFT I did not think this was possible, but after watching Thursday night football, I can officially say I feel bad for Carson. It was a pretty depressing watch for Carson Wentz... I didn't think I could feel those feelings for Carson Wentz tonight watching him in pain, just getting sacked over and over.

Subjective feeling of empathy.

PFT was quick to jump in with some sideline medical speculation, though we all know the real injury was the psychological damage of the Vikings' offensive line letting him get eaten alive.

Void
Oct 24, 2025
#11349
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Carson Wentz suffered a dislocated shoulder or labrum injury on TNF

I'm gonna speculate that [Carson Wentz] had some sort of dislocated shoulder issue. Maybe a labrum. Maybe rotator cuff. And it wasn't staying in place and it just kept getting popped out over and over and over again.

This is speculation about Carson Wentz's specific injury diagnosis from a Thursday Night Football game. Cannot verify the exact medical diagnosis.

While the Vikings are staring down a brutal remaining schedule, the Chargers looked like a completely different animal with Joe Alt back in the lineup. It was enough for Big Cat to start looking at the futures market, even if it feels like a classic trap.

Loss
Oct 24, 2025
#11350
Big CatBig Cat

The Chargers at 25/1 are a great value bet to win the Super Bowl

Do we wanna bet the Chargers to win the Super Bowl, knowing they probably won't, but the number's gonna go, we're gonna get good value... They're 25 to one. When they're healthy, they, when Joe Alt is back and their offensive line is healthy, there are still a very good football team.

The Chargers lost in the Wild Card to the Patriots 16-28. They did not win the Super Bowl.

NBA Scandal and World Series Vibes

The sports world was rocked by news of an NBA gambling investigation involving arrests and alleged modified x-ray tables. Zac joined the guys to break down the legal ramifications and the potential for a massive fallout across the league.

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ZacZac

The NBA gambling scandal is going to get much bigger with more players involved

My big takeaway after the deep dive earlier today and listened to a couple press conferences is that I think this just gets bigger. I think there's gonna be a lot more guys in the coming days announced to be a part of this thing not looking good whatsoever.

Cannot verify the scope and progress of the NBA gambling scandal as of the resolution date. This would require specific reporting on additional players being implicated.

Shifting gears to the Fall Classic, the guys gave their predictions for the Dodgers-Blue Jays matchup. Max is calling for total domination, while Big Cat shifted his pick based on some wholesome Blue Jays traditions he saw on Jerry O'Connell's Instagram.

Loss
Oct 24, 2025
#20674
MaxMax

The Dodgers will sweep the World Series in four games.

I will go Dodgers in four... I just think that's going to be the case.

Max predicted the Dodgers would sweep the World Series in 4 games. The Dodgers did win the 2025 World Series but in 7 games against the Blue Jays, far from a sweep.
Loss
Oct 24, 2025
#11352
Big CatBig Cat

I am changing my World Series prediction to Dodgers in six games.

Just from that alone, I'm changing my prediction Dodgers in six. Okay. Welcome to board. Yeah. Just added another game for the Blue Jays. We believe. We believe Toronto Jays. You're gonna get another game.

Big Cat predicted Dodgers in 6 games. The Dodgers won the 2025 World Series over the Blue Jays, but in 7 games (4-3), not 6. Game 7 went to extra innings with the Dodgers winning 5-4 in 11 innings.

Week 8 Preview: Ping Pong Wars and Fortune Cookies

The Week 8 slate is highlighted by some major desperation games. The Ravens are so locked in they've reportedly removed the ping pong tables from the facility, which is a massive signal to the guys that the Bears might be in for a long afternoon.

Void
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#11357
Big CatBig Cat

The Ravens removing their ping pong tables means they will beat the Bears

The Ravens removed their ping pong tables... Harbaugh said that the vets did it. I have a hard and fast rule when a team removes a ping pong table from, I mean, that, that means they're ready to win... I'm going into this game thinking the Ravens might kill the Bears.

Cannot verify the specific Ravens vs Bears Week 8 2025 result. The 'ping pong table' logic is a humorous superstition, not a verifiable prediction methodology.

In New York, the dysfunction has reached subterranean levels. Memes is struggling to find rock bottom, while Aaron Glenn is just happy to confirm the Jets will indeed have a human being playing quarterback on Sunday.

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Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#11355
MemesMemes

The Jets are experiencing 'below rock bottom' dysfunction

This is just total dysfunction. This is the rock bottom we were talking about under the rock bottom. It's below the rock bottom. And now it's only up from here. Hopefully.

Subjective assessment of team morale.

Meanwhile, the Drake Maye hype train continues to pick up steam in Foxborough, with Hank fully on board despite some statistical anomalies regarding his efficiency versus his volume.

Push
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#11356
HankHank

Drake Maye is a 'total package' and a 'cover two killer'

He's efficient. Accurate. Total package... Cover two killer. [I've] been watching a lot of film. Knows cover two.

Drake Maye had an excellent 2025 season (4,394 yards, 31 TDs, 72% completion rate), but 'total package' and 'cover two killer' may overstate his abilities at this point. He led the Patriots to 14-3 but lost the Super Bowl.

Zack Martin in Studio

Future Hall of Famer Zack Martin joined the show to talk about his legendary career with the Dallas Cowboys and Notre Dame. As a day-one listener, he fit right in, though he did have to clear the air about why he doesn't have his Pinstripe Bowl MVP trophy anymore—it’s currently at the bottom of a lake in Indiana.

Zack gave some incredible insight into the life of an elite guard, from the natural leverage of Aaron Donald to the specific way Mike McCarthy used a watermelon to motivate the team during the COVID year.

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Oct 24, 2025
#20672
Zack MartinZack Martin

Aaron Donald's natural leverage and height make him more difficult to block than taller defensive linemen.

Not only is he freakishly strong, he's got... I called him maybe six foot. So he's got a lot of natural leverage. And then he's got every moves, he's got speed, he's explosive... he can make me look dumb at any moment.

This is a technical opinion from an All-Pro offensive lineman.

He also defended his quarterback, noting that the external noise surrounding Dak Prescott is nothing compared to the respect he commands inside the Cowboys' locker room.

Void
Oct 24, 2025
#11360
Zack MartinZack Martin

Dak Prescott is the ultimate leader and everyone in the Cowboys building plays for him

He is the best. Like he is the absolute best. He would, you would love him if you, if he got to sit down here and just, just shoot the shit... guys in that building play for that guy. I'm telling you.

Subjective character assessment from a teammate.

As the guys wrapped up with Fyre Fest, Hank tried to bum everyone out with news of the coldest winter ever coming to Chicago, but PFT is too focused on his mission to Kansas City to care about the weather.

Void
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#11358
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Boneless wings are just big nuggets trying to be cool

Wings are not boneless. Wings have bones in them, but, this is it's big nugget that's trying to make themselves seem like they're as cool as chicken wings. You'll never be as cool as chicken wings. It's the mocktail of chicken.

Subjective culinary opinion.

We'll find that Pinstripe trophy eventually, even if we have to send Zac down in a scuba suit.

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More Takes

Open
Oct 24, 2025
#20668
Big CatBig Cat

The Vikings are in a bad spot because they have the hardest remaining schedule after starting with the easiest.

The Vikings... have played the number one easiest schedule this year thus far. And they have the number one hardest schedule the rest of the season. So it feels like the Vikings could be in a bad spot.

This depends on the actual performance of the Vikings against their remaining schedule in the 2025 season.
Win
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#11353
Big CatBig Cat

The Dolphins are running out the clock on Mike McDaniel and Tua Tagovailoa

It just seems like the Dolphins are running out the clock here on the season on Mike McDaniel on Tua... the Picks are happening whether you can see it or not. Maybe just try to do some blind plays.

The Dolphins did run out the clock. They went 7-10 and Mike McDaniel was fired on January 8, 2026. The Dolphins' season ended in disappointment.
Void
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#11354
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tua Tagovailoa has 'low eyes' which causes him to miss linebackers

I feel like this is why in the draft you measure quarterbacks up to the eyeballs. You don't measure 'em to the top of the head. Tua's got a lot of wasted space in the forehead. Makes him a little bit taller on paper than he really is. He's got low eyes.

Inherently absurd anatomical observation used to explain performance.
Loss
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#20669
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kirk Cousins will play well for the Falcons and then be traded to another team this season.

I hope that at some point this season we get a Kirk Cousins game. I want to see Kirk Cousins. I want him to go out there. I want him to play well and then I want him to be traded to another team this season.

Kirk Cousins was not traded during the 2025 season. He served as backup to Michael Penix Jr. and stepped in when Penix tore his ACL in November, going 5-2 as a starter. He was released by the Falcons in March 2026, not traded during the season.
Open
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#20670
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Shado Sanders is ready to start based on his recent progress in practice.

Mary Kay Cabot said in practice Shado Sanders has been making a ton of progress. He looks really good... It sounds out there, it sounds like Shado is ready.

The quality of Sanders' play once he starts will determine if he was truly 'ready'.
Void
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#20671
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

AJ Brown feels 'used' by the Eagles because they only target him when they desperately need to win.

I think he looks at his relationship with a football team and every time they go to him and they try to exploit a weakness in the defense... he feels like he's being used, like they wouldn't pass him the ball if they didn't need him to win. So fuck them. It's like, you're just using me so that you can win.

This is a subjective theory on a player's mindset.
Win
Oct 24, 2025·Picks
#11359
Big CatBig Cat

The Texans defense will win them the game against the 49ers

I like the Texans in this game. Not, obviously not because of their offense... I'm more gonna bet the Texans because their defense is the best unit on the field. And the 49ers Mac Jones looked good, but this is a different defense. This is a top defense.

The Texans beat the 49ers 26-15 in Week 8. The Texans defense was the best unit on the field as Big Cat predicted.
Void
Oct 24, 2025
#20673
Zack MartinZack Martin

September football is sloppy because modern training camps lack the live reps necessary for offensive lines to gel.

The guys aren't getting reps, live reps, like meaningful reps... offensive lineman, you gotta feel yourself getting in these fits with the guys you're playing next to. You gotta feel a pass rush. And I just think you don't get the consistency of that through training camp anymore... the teams that do hit it hard in training camp, you usually can tell at the beginning of the season.

This is an industry observation based on his experience as an active player.
Void
Oct 24, 2025
#11361
Zack MartinZack Martin

The Eagles are clearly false starting on the Tush Push

It's clear they've been false starting [on the Tush Push]. I mean they call, what was the game last week? The other team, they, they called it twice on them for false start.

Subjective interpretation of refereeing consistency.

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