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Gardner Minshew, Warren Sharp, NFL Week 3 Preview + Mr Portnoy

Friday, September 20, 201923 takes

A Huge Friday show starting with a recap of Gardner mania on TNF and Marcus Mariota has been cancelled.(-) NFL Week 3 preview and picks. (-) Fantasy Fuccbois. (-) Jaguars starting quarterback Gardner Minshew calls in to accept Football Guy of the Week and tell an all time story from College. (-) Warren Sharp joins the show to talk football, the best/worst coaches in the NFL, the evolution of the offensive game, and how we can think about football in a smarter way. (-) Segments include Fyre fest of the week (-) and Mr Portnoy and Mrs Portnoy join the show to revive Portnoy's complaints (-)

Gardner Minshew’s Hammer Story, Warren Sharp, and Portnoy’s Complaints

Gardner Minshew has officially taken over the program, and honestly, the world. Coming off a rainy Thursday night win against the Titans, the mustache is in full effect and the energy is infectious. PFT is already looking at the long-term depth chart in Jacksonville because when you have a guy this electric, there’s no going back.

Void
Sep 20, 2019
#21158
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Gardner Minshew's ability to make fans "feel things" is exactly what you need in an NFL quarterback

Gardner Minshew is a quarterback. We don't know if he's great yet, but what we do know about Gardner Minshew is he makes us feel things, and that's all you need from a quarterback in the NFL. You want a quarterback that makes you feel stuff. Gardner Minshew makes me feel amped up and ready to go out and get in some trouble. And that's what I want out of a quarterback.

This is a subjective opinion about the intangible qualities of a quarterback.

While Gardner is ascending, Big Cat is ready to bury Marcus Mariota’s career in the sand. The Titans quarterback has reached the point of no return for the show, leading to a discussion about whether Ryan Tannehill is actually the savior of Nashville.

Win
Sep 20, 2019
#18294
Big CatBig Cat

I am officially done with Marcus Mariota

I am officially hashtag done with Marcus Mariota. Got the hashtag done. Done. I do not want to see Marcus Mariota play any more football. I'm done with him.

Mariota was indeed benched for Ryan Tannehill later in the 2019 season and hasn't regained his status as a franchise starter.
Win
Sep 20, 2019
#18295
Big CatBig Cat

Ryan Tannehill will take a step forward and become a real quarterback this year

I think the Titans still are a decent team, but I actually, in a crazy world, I think Ryan Tannehill is ready to start and take a step forward. This is the year Ryan Tannehill finally takes a step forward and becomes a real quarterback.

Tannehill replaced Mariota, won Comeback Player of the Year, and led the Titans to the AFC Championship game in the same season.

Gardner Minshew: Hammer Time

Gardner Minshew joined the show to accept his Football Guy of the Week award and told perhaps the most legendary story in the history of the podcast. During his time at East Carolina, Gardner was so desperate for a medical redshirt that he took a bottle of Jack Daniels and a hammer to his own hand in his dorm room. He couldn't actually break it, but the attempt alone is enough to make him a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

Win
Sep 20, 2019
#18300
Gardner MinshewGardner Minshew

I tried to break my own hand with a hammer to get a medical redshirt at East Carolina

I grab a bottle of Jack Daniels and I grab a hammer... I take a pull of Jack Daniels, put my hand down on the table and boom, boom, boom. One, two, three. Hit the hell out of my hand, dude... I couldn't break my own hand. But when I told the guys, I was like, what would you do for more football? Because I'd do damn near anything.

Minshew has told this story consistently in multiple interviews; while extreme, it is a verifiable personal claim.

Beyond the self-mutilation for the love of the game, Gardner talked about his dad, Flint Minshew, who is a verified beefcake. Gardner is confident that the Minshew duo could take down any other father-son combo in the league in a fight.

Void
Sep 20, 2019
#21162
Gardner MinshewGardner Minshew

My dad and I would walk out as the winners in a cage match against any other father-son duo in the NFL

I'd like to see me and my dad in a cage match versus anybody, any other father-son duo. And, you know, I think we'd stand out, you know, we'd walk out, and then afterwards there's no telling who would come up to us or come on to us. It'd be fun.

This is a hypothetical claim that cannot be verified without an actual cage match.

Warren Sharp Makes Us Smarter

Warren Sharp joined the show to explain why most NFL coaches are still living in the stone ages. He broke down the gross inefficiency of running on first down and how coaches are too afraid of the media to make the smart, analytical plays at the goal line.

Void
Sep 20, 2019
#18301
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

NFL teams should run significantly less on first down

They should not be running as much on first down. They need to be passing the ball more. The floor on completion percentage has risen tremendously. So it's a lot more efficient to throw the football and you're not having as many of those risks that coaches get scared about.

This is a subjective analytical viewpoint, though league-wide passing on first down has indeed increased over the following years as teams embraced this logic.
Void
Sep 20, 2019
#21164
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

Teams should either spread the defense out at the goal line or pass out of heavy sets to maximize efficiency

If you're not the Patriots, you need to spread teams out at the goal line spread them out and run... passing out of heavy sets... is very efficient. But coaches are concerned what the repercussions are going to be. They're concerned what the press is going to say if I stick Adrian Peterson on the bench and I use Chris Thompson and then it doesn't score a touchdown.

This is an analytical observation regarding offensive efficiency and coach psychology.

Warren also touched on the defensive side of the ball, noting that the league has shifted toward valuing a lock-down secondary over just having a bunch of meatheads rushing the passer. He specifically pointed out that the Patriots defense might be the best unit in football this year.

Void
Sep 20, 2019
#21165
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

In the modern NFL, a high-quality secondary is more valuable than elite edge rushers

Now defense is a lot more about secondary play and takeaways because more teams are passing the football. So if you can get like five good DBs out there, that's more valuable at times than having the massive strength of your edge rushers and having just adequate secondary.

This is an analytical opinion on defensive roster construction.
Win
Sep 20, 2019
#18305
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

The Patriots defense is good enough to carry their offense this season

I said this could be the season that the Patriots defense actually could carry their offense a little bit because I think this Patriots defense is damn good. Really good, really underrated.

The 2019 Patriots defense was historically dominant, particularly in the first half of the season, and was the primary reason they made the playoffs.

NFL Week 3 Picks and Fantasy Fuccbois

The guys got into the Week 3 board, which features some heavy spreads. Hank and PFT are both riding with the Patriots -22.5 against the Jets, while Big Cat is looking for some value in the Motor City.

Win
Sep 20, 2019·Picks
#21161
Big CatBig Cat

The Lions are better than people realize and will cover +6.5 against the Eagles

For the third week in a row, I'm taking the Detroit Lions. Plus six and a half. Don't sleep on the Lions. I still think they're a little bit better than people give them credit for. I think the Eagles are the better team, but offensive line issues, basically every wide receiver they had got injured last week. I think this might be a little bit closer.

Correct. The Lions won 27-24 outright, easily covering the +6.5 spread.
Loss
Sep 20, 2019·Picks
#18299
Big CatBig Cat

The Packers and Broncos will hit the under 43

I'm taking the Packers and Broncos under 43. The Broncos last 10 games, 10 unders. And the Packers defense is good. I think that's going to be the easiest under of the week.

Incorrect. The total for the game was exactly 43 (27-16), which is a push on the 43 total and did not 'hit the under'.

Fantasy Fuccbois returned with the usual chaos, featuring Justin Trudeau apologies and Italian-flavored sleeper picks. Fyre Fest of the week covered the usual struggles of aging, including Hank's body failing him on the basketball court and Big Cat becoming a "mobile order guy" at Starbucks just to keep up with the crumbling rules of society.

Mr. Portnoy’s Complaints

To wrap things up, Mr. Portnoy and Mrs. Portnoy joined the show to revive the classic segment. Mr. Portnoy’s main grievance involves the total lack of human customer service at Uber. After getting a new phone and being unable to log in, he spent the morning wandering around looking for his fanny pack and yelling at an app that wouldn't talk back.

Win
Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

Uber should have a customer service phone number for when the app fails

These things like Uber... Would it be so terrible that there was a phone number to call if the thing wasn't working? There is no phone number. There is no one out there from Uber that has to respond to anything.

Uber famously lacked a direct support line for years, proving Mr. Portnoy's point about their customer service model.

Hopefully, Mr. Portnoy finds his fanny pack before his ride with Zah arrives.

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More Takes

Loss
Sep 20, 2019
#18296
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Gardner Minshew is the permanent starter for the Jaguars even when Nick Foles returns

I don't think that you can put Nick Foles in when you have Gardner [Minshew] out here looking like Leonard Skinner's pilot, just crushing shit, just dominating, looking like he got his law degree in prison, throwing the football over the yard. You can't take that guy out of the game. He's going to be your starter.

Incorrect. Nick Foles returned from injury in Week 11 and was immediately named the starter for three games before poor performance led the team to go back to Minshew for the remainder of the season.
Win
Sep 20, 2019
#18297
Big CatBig Cat

The NFL is ruining football by calling too many holding penalties

There are way too many holding calls. I think we can all agree on that. Holding is the new fetch, and I'm sick of the NFL trying to make it happen because every single call is a holding call. It's like the old saying, you could call holding on every play. I feel like someone dared the NFL refs to actually do that this year.

Holding calls were historically high in the first few weeks of 2019 before the league eventually adjusted their emphasis.
Win
Sep 20, 2019
#21159
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I don't think Jalen Ramsey is going to stay in Jacksonville; I think the Jaguars are going to trade him

I would like to see Jalen stay in town. I don't think it's going to happen. I think they're going to trade him.

Correct. Jalen Ramsey was traded to the Los Angeles Rams in exchange for two first-round picks and a fourth-round pick on October 15, 2019.
Loss
Sep 20, 2019·Picks
#18298
Big CatBig Cat

The Chiefs will cover -6.5 against the Ravens

I will go with... The Chiefs, minus six and a half, because are we sure the Ravens are as good as they think? I don't think that we are sure. They beat the Dolphins, who stink, and they barely beat the Cardinals on the road.

Incorrect. The Chiefs defeated the Ravens 33-28, failing to cover the 6.5-point spread.
Win
Sep 20, 2019·Picks
#21160
HankHank

The Browns aren't as good as people think, so I'm taking the Rams to beat them

Essentially, my logic is that the Browns aren't as good as people are giving them credit for. I'm taking the Rams.

Correct. The Rams defeated the Browns 20-13 on Sunday Night Football.
Void
Sep 20, 2019
#18302
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

Running the ball on 2nd and 10 is the worst thing a coach can do

They opt to run the ball on second and 10, which is the worst thing that you could do on second down because you're very unlikely to have a successful gain and you might as well just pass twice to try to convert that first down as opposed to run then pass.

Data largely supports that running on 2nd and long is a low-value play, making this a highly regarded analytical opinion.
Void
Sep 20, 2019
#21163
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

A quarterback’s performance is almost impossible to evaluate independently of the quality of their play-caller

There's two things that are very difficult to separate out in football. It's very difficult to separate out the performance of a quarterback from his play caller. Those two are like married so tightly together that it's very difficult to understand the context... and then it's, of course, the running back and the offensive line. It's hard to create a value of what is the running back because he's so dependent upon that offensive line.

This is an analytical opinion on how to evaluate football performance.
Void
Sep 20, 2019
#18303
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

The Panthers will be much better than their 0-2 record if Cam Newton gets healthy

If Cam gets better, I definitely think the Panthers are much better than what the record indicates. But if Cam still is a problem, I mean, I've actually liked some things that I've seen out of Cincinnati. But I don't see a lot of upside there.

Cam Newton's foot injury effectively ended his season shortly after this, and the Panthers finished 5-11. The 'if' condition was never really met.
Void
Sep 20, 2019
#18304
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

Jared Goff's performance is almost entirely tied to Sean McVay's play-calling

I personally didn't think Jared Goff was worth that contract because I thought so much of what he was doing, his performance, was tied to his head coach... Sean McVay is so great [at] projecting fourth Jared Goff to become better.

This is subjective, though Goff's subsequent struggles and eventual trade to Detroit (and McVay's immediate Super Bowl win with Stafford) have retrospectively strengthened this take.
Win
Sep 20, 2019
#21166
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

I have high expectations for Josh Allen this season because the Bills fixed their receiving core

What the Bills ended up doing is going in a different direction and bringing in guys like John Brown... guys who are going to get open quickly and find holes in the defense so that Josh Allen no longer has to throw where a defender is nearby, but getting to throw to wide open space... so I have higher expectations of Josh Allen this season than I did in the past.

Correct. Josh Allen significantly improved in 2019, leading the Bills to the playoffs with a 10-6 record while passing for 20 touchdowns and rushing for 9 more.
Loss
Sep 20, 2019
#18306
Warren SharpWarren Sharp

Downfield laterals will be the next big innovation in the NFL

In the future, more teams will look to do downfield laterals of the football because it's very difficult for the defense. It puts a lot of stress on them... If you design something off of that where you did have some semblance of success, that would be big.

While used in desperation, downfield laterals have not yet become a staple of offensive systems in the NFL as of 2024.

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