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Jake Arrieta, Mt Rushmore Of Training Camp Cliches Plus 2 Show Announcements For The Future

Monday, August 1, 202223 takes

Football is back again. We talk some story lines from the last week plus Breaking News on a show announcement and our new Pardon My Cheesesteak brand. (-) Mt Rushmore of training camp cliches. (-) Who's back of the week including celebrities flying PJ's and Tony Pizza. (-) Jake Arrieta joins the show to talk about MLB trade deadline, where Soto will end up, Owners not ponying up, and a very dumb baseball idea. (-) We finish with a show announcement for the future. (-)

Jake Arrieta on Trade Deadline, Bill Russell's Legacy, and a New Era for PMT

Football is officially back, and Big Cat has already reached the stage of the preseason where he’s talking himself into the most dysfunctional franchises in the league. With the Hall of Fame game on the horizon, the focus has shifted to training camp fights and the pure grit of August. While most people are looking at the Super Bowl favorites, Big Cat is looking at North Florida.

Win
Aug 1, 2022
#11577
Big CatBig Cat

I'm betting the Jaguars over their win total because Urban Meyer is gone

I think I might sell myself on the Jaguars this year. Like take their win total over just by Urban Meyer not being there. I think the Jaguars are gonna get a bounce just by not having that fucking asshole around finger of the year... I think I'm gonna buy the Jaguars. I'm calling my shot right now.

The Jaguars won 9 games and the AFC South in 2022, easily clearing their preseason win total (6.5).

The show opened on a somber note reflecting on the passing of the legendary Bill Russell. PFT and Big Cat took a moment to appreciate not just the eleven rings, but the impact Russell had on the world outside of the parquet floor.

Void
Aug 1, 2022
#11578
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill Russell is the most 'Mount Rushmore-able' NBA player ever

[Bill Russell] might be the most Mount Rushmoreable professional basketball player of all time. Like on various Mount Rushmores. Yeah. As far as like what he did obviously for the Celtics, he's maybe the most clutch postseason player of all time. He was 10 and 0 in elimination games in the playoffs.

Russell is widely considered a top 4-5 player in NBA history, making him a standard fixture on basketball Mount Rushmores.

Hank even suggested that the league needs to go a step further than just tributes to honor the winningest player in American sports history.

Win
Aug 1, 2022
#11579
HankHank

The NBA should retire Bill Russell's number 6 league-wide

Retire his number. Yeah. All across the league. He was, I like, let's go Hank. He's got the MVP trophy right? So yeah. I agree. Retire his number. Yes. Good call Hank.

The NBA officially retired the number 6 league-wide on August 11, 2022, shortly after this episode.

Training Camp Cliches and Future Visions

It wouldn’t be August without the Mount Rushmore of Training Camp Cliches. The crew broke down the classic tropes, from the "best shape of his life" narrative to the undrafted free agent who is "turning heads" before inevitably getting cut. PFT also dropped a mind-blowing realization about the current date and its connection to a classic cartoon family.

Win
Aug 1, 2022
#11580
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

George Jetson was born on July 31st, 2022

My woe is on today... July 31st as we're taping it. This is the day that George Jetson was born on whoa. In the TV show The Jetsons. Whoa, whoa. That is whoa. And if you watch the Jetsons, we're like journeying throughout outer space, future conquering other solar... nothing's changed.

This is a widely cited fan-calculated birthdate based on the show's 1962 premiere and the character being 40 years old in 2062.

Billy Football, never one to let a conspiracy theory go to waste, took it a step further by connecting the sky-dwelling Jetsons to their prehistoric counterparts.

Void
Aug 1, 2022·Who's Back
#21583
Billy FootballBilly Football

The Flintstones and Jetsons live on the same earth at the same time

There's a theory that the [Flintstones] live in a post-apocalyptic prehistoric land on earth while the [Jetsons] live in the sky. Also, not to be horny, but Jane Jetson should get it. She was a fox.

This is a fan theory about fictional universes that cannot be verified but is a common topic of internet debate.

Jake Arrieta on the MLB Trade Deadline

Friend of the program Jake Arrieta joined the show to navigate the chaos of the MLB trade deadline. As a guy who has been on both sides of the buyer/seller dynamic, Arrieta gave some incredible insight into what it’s like when the clubhouse realize a rebuild is coming. When the conversation turned to the biggest fish on the market, Juan Soto, Arrieta identified two frontrunners.

Win
Aug 1, 2022
#11590
Jake ArrietaJake Arrieta

Juan Soto will be traded to either the Cardinals or the Padres

I heard Jake Peavy give a take on the network about him potentially ending up in San Diego. And I could also see St. Louis... I would love to see Soto in San Diego for the simple reason that the Dodgers have just dominated the NL West forever. And if the Padres are serious about taking that next step, what better way to make that statement than to bring in a guy like Juan Soto?

Juan Soto was traded to the San Diego Padres on August 2, 2022, the day after this episode aired.

Arrieta didn't hold back on the state of ownership in baseball, specifically calling out billionaires who treat their teams like accounting spreadsheets rather than competitive assets.

Void
Aug 1, 2022
#21589
Jake ArrietaJake Arrieta

MLB owners are cheap and players aren't greedy

Does it bother you when you hear billionaires complaining about spending money for their team? ... If you don't like it, I guarantee you there's a hundred other billionaires that'll line up to buy your team. ... People always hate on the players though they're greedy. No, the owners are cheap.

The financial philosophy of sports ownership is a matter of debate, though Arrieta's point about owners' immense wealth is factually accurate.

He also took a flamethrower to the idea that pitchers need a specific "personal catcher" to be successful, arguing that at the big-league level, everyone should be professional enough to get the job done. Arrieta’s focus remained on the dominance of New York baseball, particularly the freakish nature of the Mets' rotation.

Void
Aug 1, 2022
#11593
Jake ArrietaJake Arrieta

Jacob deGrom is the best starting pitcher to ever put on a uniform

I've blown the guy for years. I just think he's the best. And I've said this, I think he's the best starting pitcher to ever put the uniform on. If he stays healthy people might think that's crazy. Some people love it. Just watching him live and on TV... he struck out nine out of ten. It's the best shit I've ever seen ever from any pitcher.

While statistically peak deGrom is elite, 'best ever' is a subjective debate versus names like Pedro Martinez, Sandy Koufax, etc.

While the veterans get the headlines, Big Cat made sure to ask about the most exciting young player in the game, the 6'7" shortstop in Pittsburgh who seems to be breaking Statcast every other night.

Open
Aug 1, 2022
#11595
Big CatBig Cat

O'Neil Cruz has a chance to be the best baseball player of all time

Someone told me that I trust who has good baseball knowledge said that there's a 5.5% chance he could end up being the best baseball player of all time... think about it, you're like, oh fuck, I gotta pay attention. He's six foot seven... is it true that he runs like Tyreek Hill? He's so fast. And then he threw from shortstop to first base... 97 [mph].

Cruz has shown flashes of elite talent but has also struggled with injuries and high strikeout rates. Predicting him as the GOAT is extreme.

Before letting him go, Big Cat proposed a rule change that would make the ceremonial first pitch the most stressful moment of a celebrity's life.

Void
Aug 1, 2022
#11598
Big CatBig Cat

The ceremonial first pitch should count in the game as a ball or strike

The first pitch should count. It should count as a ball or strikes. How great would that be though? So the home team always gets to pick the first pitcher and someone will like air mail it... so the first batter gets up there and it's a 1-0 count. It wouldn't actually change any outcomes... but it would add a fun wrinkle.

This is a joke rule proposal and will never be implemented.

A Bittersweet Show Announcement

To wrap up the show, the crew shared some big news regarding the production team. Liam (aka Bubba) is transitioning away from his role as the primary podcast producer to focus on other video projects within Barstool. It’s a move sparked by the insane burnout of the 4:00 AM Sunday nights that come with the territory of being the world's biggest sports podcast. Big Cat and PFT made it clear that while his seat in the "cave" might be changing, he’s still family and will be producing *Pick 'Em* and *Advisors*.

Good luck to Bubba in his new role, even if he still can't tell the difference between red and green on a color wheel.

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More Takes

Loss
Aug 1, 2022
#11582
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Tomlin will find a way to get the Steelers 10 wins despite the QB situation

I don't know what's going on [with the Steelers] because Mitch has the job, but then there was a report that Mason Rudolph might be winning the job... I just know that Mike Tomlin will somehow find a way to get the Steelers to 10 wins.

The Steelers finished 9-8 in the 2022 season, narrowly missing the 10-win mark but maintaining Tomlin's non-losing season streak.
Push
Aug 1, 2022
#21584
Billy FootballBilly Football

You cannot go to Antarctica if you still have your appendix

Fact, you can't go to Antarctica if you have your appendix. ... because they don't have medical technology down there. So if it starts to rupture, you're gonna die.

This is only true for doctors and certain staff overwintering at specific stations (like the Australian station), not for all visitors or day trips.
Loss
Aug 1, 2022
#21585
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dan Campbell is the NFL Coach of the Year if the Lions win five games

Dan Campbell coach of the year if they win five games. Lions should get comeback franchise of the year. If they win like six games, we need to grade that on a scale.

The Lions won 9 games in 2022. Dan Campbell was the runner-up for COTY, but Brian Daboll won the award.
Loss
HankHank

Derek Carr will win NFL MVP in 2022

MVP 2,500. Oh wow. Jersey Jerry... Jersey Jerry gave it to me. I put it in. It's the first future I have. MVP the whole league... With one of the best wide receivers actually. And one of the best offensive coordinators. And they had a lot of promise last year.

Derek Carr had a poor season, was benched late in the year, and was eventually released. Patrick Mahomes won MVP.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Russell Wilson will win NFL MVP in 2022

I think I'm gonna pick Russell Wilson because it's like, you know that the narratives there... If the Broncos are incredible, Russell Wilson will get all the credit. Yeah. All of it. Everything... Peyton Manning his first year in Denver what happened? He went fucking nuts. Exactly.

Russell Wilson had a career-worst season in 2022 and the Broncos were a disaster.
Void
Aug 1, 2022·Who's Back
#21586
Big CatBig Cat

Flying private is the coolest thing you can do if you are rich

We've been lucky enough to fly private every now and then—it is pretty fucking awesome. If you have the means to do it, like these people do, it's probably the one coolest rich thing you can do.

This is a purely subjective opinion on luxury lifestyle perks.
Void
Aug 1, 2022·Who's Back
#21587
Big CatBig Cat

College football would crumble without private planes

We have to defend private planes because without private planes, college football crumbles. Nothing would happen to coaching searches, recruiting, all this shit.

While exaggerated, the efficiency of recruiting and hiring in CFB is heavily reliant on private travel, making this a widely accepted sentiment in sports media.
Void
Aug 1, 2022·Who's Back
#11587
Big CatBig Cat

The 'Tony Pizza' boyfriend is a legend and it's a great nickname

My boyfriend won't stop calling me Tony pizza... it honestly bothers me that he can't even bother to find a somewhat nice nickname for me... backfire for this chick because everyone was like your boyfriend rocks. Tony Pizza is a hilarious nickname... Tony Pizza is a great nickname.

Purely subjective opinion on a viral internet story.
Void
Aug 1, 2022·Who's Back
#21588
Big CatBig Cat

Guardian caps are the pussification of America

I think it's the pussification of America. ... I think it just looks funny. I'm gonna start doing the big head pictures with those, it's gonna be fucking sick.

The term 'pussification' is an inherently subjective and provocative descriptor of safety measures.
Void
Aug 1, 2022
#11591
Jake ArrietaJake Arrieta

The pitcher-catcher chemistry is overrated; catchers are pros

I think it's ridiculous when guys have to have a certain catcher behind the plate. I think it's stupid. As long as you got a catcher's mitt behind the plate and you've gone over the hitters with me in the pre-game meeting and we're on the same page, I don't give a shit... some of these starting pitchers need to take a step back and maybe take some of the blame... If you're in the big leagues, your job description is the same as the next guy.

This is a subjective matter of team philosophy and player preference.
Loss
Aug 1, 2022
#21590
Jake ArrietaJake Arrieta

The Mets will win the NL East if they can just score a few runs

If they can find a way just to score a few runs of the game, they're gonna win that division. There's no doubt in my mind because Max [Scherzer] is a freak, we know [deGrom] is a freak when he's healthy.

The Mets won 101 games but lost the NL East title to the Braves via a tiebreaker.
Loss
Aug 1, 2022
#11597
Jake ArrietaJake Arrieta

The Mets and Yankees will meet in the World Series (Subway Series)

I like a subway series. Yes. I like the New York Mets against the New York Yankees. I think with deGrom and Scherzer back and 100%, I think the Mets find a way to separate themselves even further and win that division. And I don't see anybody slowing down the Yankees. I just really don't.

The 2022 World Series was the Astros vs. the Phillies. Both the Yankees and Mets failed to reach the World Series.
Push
Aug 1, 2022
#21591
Jake ArrietaJake Arrieta

The manufacturing and preparation of MLB baseballs is a giant conspiracy

It's a giant conspiracy, man. It's a huge conspiracy. ... What pitchers don't like is when balls are just taken out of the wrapper and put in the ball bag... it's inconsistent... if they're changing the balls with the way they fly and more drag, less drag, just let the players know because we don't really care. Just be transparent about it.

While MLB has admitted to changing ball manufacturing over time, the 'conspiracy' element regarding lack of transparency and game-to-game inconsistency remains a major point of contention and research.

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