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Wednesday, February 1, 201713 takes

Live from Houston, PFT talks about getting smuggled past the Barstool blockade to get some interviews at Superbowl media day. Hot seat cool throne featuring AllBusinessPete ( - ). Doug Flutie talks about playing for Trump, his infamous drop kick and being a short guy in the NFL (-). John Clayton gives us his best Terry Bradshaw impression, Shouldergate, and plays "Three Downs" with the guys ( - ). Segments include LeBrons a baby back bitch, Is Lane Kiffin Kidnapped, Hmm, Sabermetrics, and Bad Radio.

John Clayton and Doug Flutie on Super Bowl LI and Rogue Journalism

Live from Houston for Super Bowl week, the energy is at an all-time high despite Barstool being officially blacklisted by the NFL. PFT Commenter proved that the league's security is no match for a man in a disguise, successfully smuggling himself into Opening Night to ask the hard questions. While Chaps unfortunately got detained like a fallen soldier, PFT made it to the floor to confirm that Julian Edelman is indeed a fan of the show.

All Business Pete joined the program for Hot Seat/Cool Throne, filling in while Hank was busy editing. Pete immediately took aim at the league's inability to keep a certain podcaster out of their premier media event.

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All Business PeteAll Business Pete

NFL security is on the hot seat for letting PFT Commenter sneak into Media Night

Hot seat is is NFL security. The I mean, the all of the bands, the pronouncements that NFL makes and and PFT just waltzes right right in.

PFT Commenter successfully snuck into Super Bowl Opening Night despite a ban, proving security failure in this specific instance.

Speaking of people taking over cities, PFT is convinced that Las Vegas isn't ready for the storm that is Brent Musburger and his new handicapping venture.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Vegas will be taken by storm once Brent Musburger moves there

Hot seat, I have Las Vegas. Brent Musburger is opening up a handicapping company in Las Vegas. So if you think that he's going to move out to the desert and not take that place by storm, then you haven't been watching television for the past 50 years.

Brent Musburger moved to Las Vegas and successfully launched VSiN (Vegas Stats & Information Network), which became a staple of sports betting media as the industry legalized.

Doug Flutie on Dropkicks and Donald Trump

NFL and CFL legend Doug Flutie joined the show to discuss his foundation and his storied career. He gave us the real origin story of his famous dropkick, revealing that Chris Berman was actually the mad scientist who whispered the idea into Bill Belichick's ear. Flutie also reflected on his time playing for Donald Trump with the New Jersey Generals, noting that Trump hasn't changed much since the 80s: he still has small hands and he still hates being wrong.

When it came to the current state of the BC quarterback lineage, Flutie was surprisingly humble about Matt Ryan potentially surpassing him in fame. He also gave us a physical scouting report on Matty Ice that suggests the TV camera adds a few pounds of 'smallness' to the Falcons QB.

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Feb 1, 2017
#23659
Doug FlutieDoug Flutie

Matt Ryan is actually 6'5" and significantly bigger than he appears

Matt would stand next to [my nephew] on the sideline and matt was just thick and wide 6'5 every bit of 6'5. Tremendous quarterback.

Ryan is officially listed at 6'4", so Flutie's 'every bit of 6'5"' is a slight exaggeration but directionally accurate.

Naturally, we had to get a prediction for the Big Game. Flutie is leaning toward his former coach and a high-scoring affair.

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Feb 1, 2017
#12071
Doug FlutieDoug Flutie

The Patriots will win Super Bowl LI in a high-scoring game

A high-scoring Super Bowl and the Patriots win a close game in the 30s. Take the over.

The Patriots defeated the Falcons 34-28. The game was high-scoring (62 total points, hitting the over) and the Patriots scored in the 30s as predicted.

The Professor John Clayton on the Roof

In a peak moment of rogue journalism, Big Cat and PFT lured John Clayton to a windy Marriott rooftop to talk ball. The Professor was in peak form, defending the NFL's product against the 'down year' narrative and explaining why the traditional TV ratings system is dying.

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Feb 1, 2017
#23658
John ClaytonJohn Clayton

NFL TV ratings are still good but need to be adjusted for cord cutters and mobile viewers

Ratings have to be adjusted. You can't go straightly off the TV ratings, which are still good enough. because now you have to try to incorporate what's on your iPhone and all that, and they don't blend right now. Once they blend, they'll find out there's probably more football fans, but it's different football fans.

The NFL did eventually overhaul how it counts out-of-home and digital viewers to stabilize rating narratives.

Clayton provided a masterclass in quarterback evaluation, moving Aaron Rodgers up his all-time list and giving a grim outlook for Redskins fans regarding Kirk Cousins' contract situation.

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Feb 1, 2017
#12073
John ClaytonJohn Clayton

The Redskins will use the franchise tag on Kirk Cousins again this offseason

Kirk Cousins. He's not going to make it right now. Is he going to get paid over $100 million by the Redskins this offseason? No. He'll get the franchise tag. Again? 23-8, yeah.

The Redskins placed the exclusive franchise tag on Kirk Cousins on February 28, 2017.
Void
Feb 1, 2017
#12074
John ClaytonJohn Clayton

Kirk Cousins is comparable to Andy Dalton and Alex Smith as a quarterback

I think you'd have to have a good running game. I mean, you kind of look at Kurt as kind of, well, I mean, He and Andy Dalton, I think, are very similar. And you put him probably in the same vein as Alex Smith.

This has largely been the consensus on Cousins' career; highly productive but often viewed as just below the 'elite' winning tier.

One of the best moments of the interview was Clayton playing a modified version of his ESPN segment called "Three Downs" with the guys. Big Cat stepped into the shoes of Sean Salisbury to provide the necessary 'meathead' counterpoints to Clayton's stats. The segment got heated, especially when the topic of the 2017 Chicago Bears and Tony Romo came up.

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Feb 1, 2017
#12076
John ClaytonJohn Clayton

Tony Romo will play for the Chicago Bears in 2017

Tony Romo, is he going to play in Dallas or Houston next year? He'll be playing, I think, in Chicago. ... [Dak] would be the one playing. Romo would be the one sitting [in Dallas].

Tony Romo retired in April 2017 to join CBS Sports and never played for the Bears.

Lebron vs. Chuck and Bad Radio

The guys also broke down the budding feud between LeBron James and Charles Barkley. LeBron tried to ether Chuck by listing all his past transgressions, but as PFT pointed out, he accidentally just made Barkley sound like the coolest guy on the planet. Between throwing people through windows and partying in Vegas, Barkley is living the life LeBron is too 'role model' to understand.

We closed things out with a new segment called Bad Radio, where the guys discovered that Neil deGrasse Tyson used to be absolutely shredded. Despite the photographic evidence of Neil's wrestling days, PFT isn't backing down from a potential scrap.

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Feb 1, 2017·Bad Radio
#12079
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I could beat up Neil deGrasse Tyson

I hate Neil deGrasse Tyson. Hey, Neil, come on this podcast or fight me. One of the two. Fight me, you nerd. You won't. I think I could beat up Neil deGrasse Tyson.

The fight never occurred. Neil deGrasse Tyson was a former varsity wrestler at Harvard and is physically much larger than PFT.

If the nerd wants to fight, he knows where to find the guys—likely on another rooftop somewhere in Houston.

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Michael Vick's legacy is secure as one of the best quarterbacks ever

I'm just going to throw it out there. I think Michael Vick's legacy is secure. He's one of the best quarterbacks ever.

Vick's legacy remains a debate between his revolutionary play-style and his criminal history, but he is widely regarded as a transformational figure in NFL history.
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#12072
John ClaytonJohn Clayton

Aaron Rodgers will eventually jump to the 4th or 5th best quarterback ever

I actually, well, a year ago, I put Aaron Rodgers as number 10 right above Bart Starr. And so I have him as number 10. But Rodgers is 10 right now, and I think he's probably going to jump up to, like, 5 or 4.

Rodgers won two more MVPs after this take (2020, 2021), further cementing his top-tier status, though consensus rankings vary widely between 3 and 7.
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Feb 1, 2017
#12075
John ClaytonJohn Clayton

The Raiders have a 65% chance of moving to Las Vegas and 35% chance to San Diego

I'd say right now it's probably 65% Vegas, 35% maybe San Diego. I thought it was pretty much a done deal by now. Can you come up with $650 million to get this thing to go right?

The Raiders officially moved to Las Vegas. The San Diego possibility was real during negotiations but never materialized.
Loss
Feb 1, 2017
#12077
Big CatBig Cat

The Cleveland Browns will go 8-8 and Hue Jackson will be Coach of the Year in 2017

Hugh Jackson is going to go eight and eight next year. The Cleveland Browns are going to turn it around. He can build on that one-win season. Hugh Jackson, coach of the year, 2017. Book it.

The Browns went 0-16 in 2017, making this prediction hilariously incorrect.

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