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Kate Fagan and Billy Football

Friday, August 18, 201719 takes

Billy Football's final day of his summer internship. Lebron James is leaving Cleveland. We give Billy his summer end intern evaluation(-). New York Times Best Seller and Around The Horn HoFer Kate Fagan joins the show to talk about her new book, what it's like working on Around The Horn, her Mt Rushmore of cookies and the Mt Rushmore of college mascots(-). Segments include connect the dots(--), fuck that for the NFLwork stoppage in 4 years(-), let's get serious about statues and monuments(-), and hank hot in the streets(-). We conclude the episode with the finale of Higher Education with Billy Football(-).

Kate Fagan on the Mt. Rushmore of Mascots and Billy Football's Evaluation

The end of an era has arrived at the PMT office as Billy Football prepares to head off to college. Before sending him into the wild, Big Cat and PFT put him through a live on-air intern evaluation. From his punctuality to his questionable tech skills, no stone was left unturned. Billy tried to defend his honor with some of the "scientific" facts he's gathered over the summer, including a few gems about the benefits of steam rooms.

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Billy FootballBilly Football

Steam rooms have been proven to boost your natural human growth hormone

Steam rooms have been proven to boost your natural human growth hormone. It just helps your body repair itself. Anything that shocks your central nervous system causes your body to change.

Hyperthermic conditioning (heat stress from saunas or steam rooms) has indeed been linked in some studies to temporary spikes in growth hormone, though the 'proven' degree and long-term efficacy are often debated.

While Billy’s work ethic was debated, his contribution to the show's lore is undeniable. He even dropped a classic Billy theory about why certain adult beverages might be affecting his physique.

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Billy FootballBilly Football

IPAs are estrogenic and make you grow breasts

It is a proven fact that IPAs are estrogenic and make you grow tits.

Hops do contain phytoestrogens, but the idea that drinking IPAs causes 'man boobs' (gynecomastia) is largely a myth; you would have to drink a massive, impossible amount of beer for the hormonal impact to cause such physical changes.

LeBron's Exit and the State of the Economy

Before diving into the guest interview, Big Cat and PFT addressed the reports that LeBron James is effectively a goner in Cleveland. The relationship with Dan Gilbert is toast, and the guys are already looking ahead to where the King lands next.

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Aug 18, 2017
#7973
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is 100% leaving Cleveland after this season

Chris Sheridan said... NBA Source said today... this will be [LeBron James's] final season in Cleveland. He is 100% leaving. Relationship with owners beyond repair.

LeBron James did indeed leave Cleveland in the summer of 2018 to join the Los Angeles Lakers.

PFT also took a moment to reflect on the show's broader impact on the world. As Billy pointed out that the listeners are the "doers" of the American workforce, PFT noted that the timing of the show’s rise perfectly correlates with certain financial indicators.

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Aug 18, 2017·Evaluation
#26347
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Pardon My Take is fueling the record growth of the American economy and stock market

Since we started this podcast, the stock market has never been higher in the history of the United States. So put two and two together.

The stock market did reach historic highs during this period, though the causal link to the podcast is purely comedic.

Kate Fagan and the Great Cookie Debate

New York Times bestseller and Around The Horn star Kate Fagan joined the show to discuss her book, "What Made Maddie Run," and her transition to a more analog lifestyle. She’s going full Motorola Razr to escape the digital noise, arguing that the constant scroll is killing our creativity.

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Aug 18, 2017
#7976
Kate FaganKate Fagan

Consuming social media prevents people from having original thoughts

I actually think we're fucked. ... I talk about it personally... I'm going to go off of social media and I'm going to use this [Motorola] Razr for hopefully two months. That's my goal because I have not had an original thought in more than a year.

Kate also pulled back the curtain on how some of the experts on ESPN really get their information. It turns out the "elites" might be spending just as much time on message boards as the rest of us.

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Aug 18, 2017
#26348
Kate FaganKate Fagan

Sports team message board commenters often know more about their teams than the actual media

When I go on Around the Horn, who knows more about the team than the people commenting on the message boards? ... I actually do get all of my content from a message board to begin with.

Things got heated during a Mount Rushmore of Cookies. Big Cat anticipated Kate's picks and was disgusted to find out she actually values oatmeal raisin above all else.

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Aug 18, 2017·Mt. Rushmore
#7977
Kate FaganKate Fagan

Oatmeal raisin is the number one cookie of all time

Number one of all cookies ever is oatmeal raisin cookies. I love the texture of oatmeal and cookies. I think it adds something to the texture that I like.

Cookie preference is subjective.
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Aug 18, 2017·Mt. Rushmore
#7978
Big CatBig Cat

Oatmeal raisin is a trash-ass cookie

Because that's a trash-ass cookie. That's a trash ass cookie. Oatmeal raisin is not a Mount Rushmore cookies cookie.

Preference for cookies is inherently subjective.

Mount Rushmore of College Mascots

The conversation shifted to college mascots, where Big Cat flexed some obscure knowledge about Ralphie the Buffalo that even Kate, a Colorado alum, didn't see coming.

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Aug 18, 2017·Mt. Rushmore
#7979
Big CatBig Cat

Ralphie the Buffalo is actually a female

People forget Ralphie's actually a woman. I knew I was right. Ralphie has been called one of the best live mascots in sports, and she is often erroneously labeled male.

The University of Colorado uses female bison for Ralphie because they are smaller, less aggressive, and more manageable than males.

PFT stuck up for the environment with his picks, though the rest of the room wasn't necessarily buying the "green" angle of a guy in a tree suit.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Stanford Tree is a top-tier college mascot because it promotes environmentalism

I've got the Stanford tree. ... What, are you anti-green? Are you pro-global warming? Without trees, you would die. You'd suffocate. So you should be on your knees thanking the Stanford tree every day.

Higher Education Finale

To close out the summer, the guys gave Billy and all the incoming freshmen some hard-earned wisdom. Big Cat was adamant about one thing: leave the high school glory days in the past. That means no jackets and no visitors while you're trying to establish your new life.

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Big CatBig Cat

Don't ever wear a high school Letterman jacket in college

No Letterman jackets. Come on, guys. When you go to college, high school's over. Don't be that guy who shows up to college and talks about how fun their high school was. That guy's a loser.

This is social advice and therefore subjective.
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Big CatBig Cat

Don't have any visitors from high school your first semester of college

Don't invite any of your high school friends to show up... they come, they get too drunk, they get in a fight with your college friends... Don't have any visitors for your entire first semester of college.

Subjective social advice.

Good luck in the real world, Billy; try not to lose those nuclear codes.

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Aug 18, 2017
#26349
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

PFT Commenter is exactly 5 feet, 9 inches tall

I've been very clear on that. I'm 5'9". 5'9".

PFT is widely known to be several inches shorter than 5'9".
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bird watching is a fraudulent community because sightings are impossible to verify

What's to stop people from saying, yeah, hey, I saw that bird? Like you can lie and say that you're the best birder of all time. ... We're the Rachel Dolezals of the bird community.

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HankHank

Artie the Fighting Artichoke is one of the best mascots in college sports

My number one is Artie, the Fighting Artichoke. Down in Scottsdale Community College. ... It's a great mascot. ... No brainer.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jim Harbaugh doesn't actually know his own roster when he wakes up every morning

I actually don't think that Jim Harbaugh knows what his roster is when he wakes up every morning. It's like Groundhog Day. Jim Harbaugh lives his life like a football Bill Murray.

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Aug 18, 2017·Fuck That
#7980
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL is headed for a virtual certainty of a work stoppage in four years

The actual words were the work stoppage is almost a virtual certainty. Giving me the scary is just thinking about no NFL.

A new 10-year CBA was signed in March 2020, avoiding any work stoppage in 2021.
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Big CatBig Cat

Derek Jeter is only removing the Marlins sculpture because removing statues is currently trendy

Derek Jeter says he's going to take down that stupid fucking fish monument in center field when he buys the Marlins. ... This is classic Jeter. He's just getting in when taking down statues is fab. He's just like, I'm going to get in on this.

OpinionBaseballHotSarcastic
Jeter did successfully remove the sculpture in 2018, though the 'trendy' motivation was a joke.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 2017 solar eclipse is a shadow designed by scientists to get us excited about space

I think it's something that's designed by scientists to get us excited about space, but it's actually pretty lame. Well, you know what an eclipse is? It's a fucking shadow.

Hot TakeLifeMediumSarcastic
While it is scientifically just a shadow, the 'designed by scientists' part is purely comedic.

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