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Kirk Herbstreit, Jimmy Graham, And Saying Goodbye To Big Ben

Wednesday, January 5, 202215 takes

Big Ben’s last night in Pittsburgh was emotional. We recap the game and what the Browns are going to do with Baker(-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a shocking moment with our darling Jake(-). Kirk Herbstreit joins the show to talk College Football, opt outs, and the National Championship game Monday Night(-). Jimmy Graham joins the show to talk about his foundation, his career, trying to be classified as a WR, what it’s like at Halas Hall right now and more(-). We finish with Guys on Chicks(-).

Recap

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Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

I really hope Big Ben shows up to training camp next year and claims he was joking about retiring

I really, really hope deep down. He just shows up to training camp next year. And he's like, what? Wait, what I was, I was just joking. Like I wasn't serious. I'm still [a] Steeler.

Ben Roethlisberger officially retired and did not return for the 2022 training camp.
Void
Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Big Ben benefited more from existing pre-social media than any other quarterback

Nobody benefited more from existing pre-social media than Big Ben. Yes. That is absolutely true.

Subjective historical analysis of media eras.
Win
Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

The Browns screwed up Baker Mayfield's season by not forcing him to get healthy earlier

I actually still think that the Browns like baker deserves a lot of blame for not having a good year, but the Browns deserve a lot of blame for kind of bungling this entire injury. Like they never really were like, Hey baker, let's get you healthy and try to put it all back together. Instead there they were, it was just every week, let's get you out there. And he got progressively injured and was playing progressively worse.

Mayfield played most of the season with a torn labrum in his non-throwing shoulder, which clearly impacted his mechanics and performance.
Win
Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

You can't give Baker Mayfield a record-breaking contract right now

He definitely falls in the camp of a guy that you can't be giving a record breaking contract to. That's not like something wild. That's not a hot take. I think we all agree with that. He's not an upper echelon quarterback right now.

Baker Mayfield was traded to the Panthers the following offseason and did not receive a record-breaking deal from the Browns.

Hot Seat Cool Throne

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Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022·Hot Seat/Cool Throne
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The new Washington team name will be the 'Red Hogs'

I'm thinking it's going to be the red hogs, which I, which I love actually, because you're given a throwback to the hogs, the old offensive line. And you can do so much cool shit with pissed off looking pigs.

The team officially became the Washington Commanders on February 2, 2022.
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Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022·Hot Seat/Cool Throne
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Big CatBig Cat

Johnny Davis is the National Player of the Year in college basketball

Johnny Davis, right? National player of the year, if you had a vote, yeah. Number one, you would build on it.

Johnny Davis won many awards but Oscar Tshiebwe won the Naismith and Wooden awards for 2022.

Interview

Void
Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Kirk HerbstreitKirk Herbstreit

If you are concerned about getting hurt in a bowl game, you should not play

If you play in a bull game and you're worried, oh my gosh, I'm playing in this bowl game. But what if I get hurt? You're going to get hurt... If there's any fear at all about what's at stake... I would say, don't do it. You got to play the game. It is a reckless game.

This is a philosophical coaching/playing take that isn't strictly verifiable but is a standard football axiom.
Push
Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Kirk HerbstreitKirk Herbstreit

College football players are on a path toward becoming unionized employees

I say, we make the players, employees. I say, we're going on a path. Now we form a union. I mean, that's where we're going with this thing... because players need to be treated that way. They need to benefit more than they are not just with name, image and likeness.

The landscape has shifted dramatically toward this reality with revenue sharing and court rulings since 2022, though formal unionization isn't universal yet.
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Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Kirk HerbstreitKirk Herbstreit

Cincinnati would have stayed ahead of Oklahoma State in the playoff rankings even if the Cowboys had won the Big 12

My hunch is Cincinnati would have gone ahead of them. I think that's my hunch... Because of where they were all year. I mean, think about it. They weren't coming from 28 working their way, all the way up... they were invited to the party before the season started.

Hypothetical scenario that cannot be verified.
Win
Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Big CatBig Cat

Georgia is a better team than Alabama this year

I still do think Georgia is a better team than Alabama. And I think that they've been better all year.

Georgia defeated Alabama in the National Championship game shortly after this episode, proving they were the better team in the final matchup.
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Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Kirk HerbstreitKirk Herbstreit

If I'm Georgia, I am jamming Jameson Williams at the line of scrimmage every single snap

I'm literally taking a guy no matter where number one [Jameson Williams] goes... I'm jamming his ass. It's a line of scrimmage, every single snap with a safety over top. And I'm making either Brian Robinson win the game... Jameson Williams destroyed them. The last game they played, he can't beat me. He cannot beat me.

Williams got injured early in the game, making the strategy moot, but Georgia's defense held Alabama to 18 points.
Win
Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Jimmy GrahamJimmy Graham

Planes can basically land themselves now, so clapping for pilots is unnecessary

Even in fog, you'll basically have the plane land itself... I think you should, more or less [clap] back to the plane. I mean, now most of the landings are done by hand, you know, obviously, cause, cause you've got to stay current... you know that if something was really going on, you know, those things are pretty much going to land themselves in fog.

Autoland systems (CAT III) exist and are used in low visibility, but most landings are indeed manual for currency reasons.
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Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Jimmy GrahamJimmy Graham

I am willing to die on certain plays; that is the level of commitment needed

I gave myself no other option... I play with this type of intensity and tenacity that, you know, I was willing to, you know, I mean, I was willing to die on certain plays out there. And that's kinda how I took it most of my career.

Subjective personal reflection on his own career intensity.
Loss
Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022
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Jimmy GrahamJimmy Graham

This Sunday might be my last NFL game

Hopefully this is my last game, you know, that's, that's kind of where my mindset is... I got to figure out what's next for me, you know? And, and I got to figure out if there's an opportunity for me to go onto, you know, you know, contender next year.

He didn't play in 2022 but returned for a stint with the Saints in 2023.

Guys On Chicks

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Take Slip·Jan 5, 2022·Guys on Chicks
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It's a law of the universe that long-haired quarterbacks don't win Super Bowls

It's not even really long hair curse. It's just a demonstrable fact that long hair quarterbacks have never won a Superbowl... It's a law of the universe.

Historically, Super Bowl-winning QBs have almost exclusively had short hair. Kenny Stabler and Patrick Mahomes (who has curly/longer hair but not 'flowing') are the closest exceptions.