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Lawrence Taylor and The Fastest 2 Minutes From Week 11

Monday, November 20, 201718 takes

Week 11 is in the books and we have the fastest 2 minutes ( - ). Breakdown of the entire slate of games includes our love for the Nathan Peterman era, the AFC Wild Card race is disgusting, the Jaguars are 7-3 and the Eagles and Patriots both look unstoppable ( - ). Who's back of the week including Thanksgiving and suicidal Big Cat ( - ). Football Guy of the Week and a recap of Coach O's all time interview ( - ). NFL Hall of Famer and 2 Super Bowl Winner Lawrence Taylor joins the show to talk about his playing career, how he would fare in today's NFL, what the Giants should do with Ben McAdoo and we pitch him Adam Sandler movies because he was once in a movie with him that one time ( - ). Segments include Lavar vs Trump Update, Grumors, Locker Room talk for Jerry Jones calling Bob Kraft a pussy, and Stay Classy for Baker Mayfield.

Lawrence Taylor on the Giants, Ben McAdoo, and Today's NFL

Week 11 gave us the gift that keeps on giving: the Nathan Peterman era. Big Cat and PFT are still buzzing over a debut so legendary it featured five interceptions in a single half. While the Bills are out here playing themselves, the rest of the AFC is falling into a black hole of mediocrity that has the guys questioning the very fabric of the postseason.

Win
Nov 20, 2017
#6466
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Nathan Peterman will have a long career as a backup because he looks like a quarterback

A guy like that [Nathan Peterman], for every interception you throw in your debut, you buy yourself another year as a backup quarterback in the NFL. He looks the part, right? He looks like a quarterback. He's going to stick around.

Nathan Peterman has famously remained in the NFL as a backup/journeyman for many years despite very poor statistics, proving PFT's theory about backup longevity correct.

PFT is ready to hand the Ravens a playoff spot by default, mostly because Joe Flacco and a returning Danny Woodhead are somehow the gold standard in a conference that has completely lost the plot.

Loss
Nov 20, 2017
#23972
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Baltimore Ravens will make the 2017 NFL playoffs

If the season ended today, the Ravens would be a playoff team. So you have to ask, is Joe Flacco elite? And they have Danny Woodhead coming back. I have to say that the Ravens are going to make it.

The Ravens finished 9-7 and missed the playoffs after a Week 17 loss to the Bengals.

With the Jaguars sitting at 7-3, the natural order of the world has been disrupted. Big Cat pointed out that Jacksonville being good has basically acted as a butterfly effect for the rest of the conference, leaving the wild card race in absolute shambles.

Win
Nov 20, 2017
#6467
Big CatBig Cat

The AFC Wild Card race is officially a dumpster fire

The end of the playoffs, the wild cards for the AFC are such shit. It's because the Jaguars have thrown the entire world out of order. 7-3. The Jaguars being good has created chaos theory for the wild card spots in the AFC. It is a dumpster fire.

The 2017 AFC Wild Card race did end up including the 9-7 Titans and 9-7 Bills, which supported the idea that the field was weak/chaotic.

The Greatest Defensive Player Ever

Lawrence Taylor joined the show for an all-time interview that ranged from modern NFL rule changes to his legendary pain tolerance. LT didn't hold back when discussing how the current game protects offensive stars, specifically pointing out how Bill Belichick uses the rules to his advantage with certain tight ends.

Void
Nov 20, 2017
#6472
Lawrence TaylorLawrence Taylor

Rob Gronkowski is 'stealing' in the NFL because of the rules

What Gronkowski is doing is absolutely stealing in the NFL. Bill Belichick, he's a smart coach. He knows the rules and he makes sure the rules benefit him at all times. Because there's no way Gronkowski is supposed to be sitting in the slot and you're not able to reroute him. You get killed like that.

Subjective opinion on offensive vs defensive rules.

Despite the current dumpster fire in East Rutherford, LT actually went to bat for Ben McAdoo. He compared the situation to Bill Parcells’ early days with the Giants, where a coach needs time to "grow some nuts" and weed out the players who have already quit on the team.

Loss
Nov 20, 2017
#6473
Lawrence TaylorLawrence Taylor

The Giants should not fire Ben McAdoo yet

Do you think they should fire him? Absolutely not. No, I think... look what [Bill Parcells] did. He won two Super Bowls. The reason why I say keep McAdoo on another year, something the same way with Bill Parcells, his first year when he was head coach, he was playing that loyalty stuff. He tries to keep everybody, but not all of them guys are good players. You got to upgrade your team every year. Cleaning house and starting bringing people that could work... maybe if they secure his job for one more year, that gives him the opportunity to lay down some laws.

McAdoo was fired shortly after this interview (Dec 4, 2017) and is widely considered one of the worst hires in Giants history, making LT's defense look quite bad in hindsight.

LT also shared some incredible stories about his playing days, including the time he rolled up to a stadium in the second quarter because he genuinely thought the game was scheduled for the following night. It turns out when you're the greatest to ever do it, showing up for the second half is still enough to dominate.

Win
Nov 20, 2017
#23975
Lawrence TaylorLawrence Taylor

I once showed up to a Sunday night game against the Patriots in the second quarter because I thought it was on Monday night

What was the latest you ever showed up? Second quarter. To a game? Yeah... I'm thinking the game is on Monday night... I'm riding and I see all these cars over at the stadium. I said, oh, shit, what's going on over here? Got a game man... I got in about second quarter.

LT's tardiness is well-documented in NFL lore, though specific quarter arrivals for that exact game are hard to verify decades later.

Who's Back and Football Guy of the Week

Thanksgiving is around the corner, which means cornucopias and racist uncles are officially back. Big Cat is also fully leaning into Suicidal Big Cat mode, talking himself into a Wisconsin team that he knows is destined to break his heart against Ohio State. He isn't just looking at the Big Ten Championship, though; he's calling for the ultimate smoke.

Void
Nov 20, 2017·Who's Back
#23974
Big CatBig Cat

I want Wisconsin to play Alabama in the college football playoffs

We want Bama, baby. We want fucking Bama. I'm saying it right now. I want Bama.

Wisconsin lost the Big Ten Championship and missed the playoff, while Alabama went on to win the National Championship.

Coach O took home Football Guy honors for his monsoon interview where he looked like a man who had finally achieved inner peace while standing in a literal hurricane. Meanwhile, the guys checked in on the Jerry Jones versus the world saga. PFT remains convinced that Jerry is essentially a Bond villain who has moved beyond the point of caring about public perception.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jerry Jones doesn't care about his public image or internet leaks

I don't think Jerry Jones cares, and I actually don't think Jerry Jones needs to care how the internet works because you couldn't make me think any less about Jerry Jones than I do right now. If a tape came out tomorrow of him just stabbing a child, I'd be like, yeah, the child probably owed him money and reneged on a season ticket contract. He's more like Liam Neeson in Taken, except his particular set of skills is leveraging public debt.

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Jones has indeed weathered numerous controversies since 2017 without losing his grip on the Cowboys or the NFL's inner circle.

Stay Classy and Final Thoughts

Baker Mayfield earned a Stay Classy nod for his antics against Kansas. While the media is busy clutching pearls over his sideline gestures, Big Cat wants Baker to lean into the villain role rather than tweeting out pre-written apologies before the clock even hits zero.

Void
Nov 20, 2017·Stay Classy
#6476
Big CatBig Cat

Baker Mayfield needs to stop apologizing for being the bad guy

Baker Mayfield could be the most celebrated college quarterback, but he keeps apologizing. He apologizes so quickly that it's not fun. Baker, part of being the bad guy is you don't apologize. Before the game even ended, he had the fucking tweet that was written out. No, you don't [want to be a role model]. You want to hold your dick in front of Kansas when you put up 40 on them.

Subjective critique of a player's persona.

The show wrapped with a look at the brewing feud between LaVar Ball and Donald Trump, a collision of egos so massive it can only end one way: in a ring with a referee.

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

The LaVar Ball vs. Donald Trump feud will end at WrestleMania

LeVar Ball versus the President of the United States being like a real feud that's going to be going and having chapters and keep going and probably ending in – there's like at least a 10% chance this actually does end in WrestleMania.

The feud never resulted in a WWE appearance or a physical match.

If LT can win a match at WrestleMania and two Super Bowls, surely the President and the Big Baller can settle this over a power slam.

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More Takes

Win
Nov 20, 2017
#23973
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Washington Redskins are officially finished and won't make the playoffs

So the Washington [Redskins], I think, are officially done. You can bury them right now. After a road loss like that, it's weird... they are such a bad home team.

The Redskins finished 7-9 and failed to make the postseason.
Win
Nov 20, 2017
#6468
Big CatBig Cat

The Patriots and Eagles are on a crash course for the Super Bowl

The Patriots and the Eagles look like, right now, on a crash course for a Super Bowl. The Steelers and the Saints, I guess, are the only two teams that I would say... there's lurkers in the NFC.

This was the exact matchup for Super Bowl LII.
Loss
Nov 20, 2017
#6469
HankHank

Aaron Rodgers will return and lead the Packers to the NFC Championship

Rodgers will probably come back and the Packers will probably still make the NFC Championship.

The Packers finished 7-9 and missed the playoffs.
Loss
Nov 20, 2017·Who's Back
#6470
Big CatBig Cat

Wisconsin will beat Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship

I think Wisconsin could beat Ohio State. I really do. Halftime of the Michigan game, I was like, oh, fuck, but Wisconsin put it on them in the second half, and I was like, this defense can play with – hey, defense travels.

Ohio State defeated Wisconsin 27-21 on December 2, 2017.
Void
Nov 20, 2017
#6471
Lawrence TaylorLawrence Taylor

I would be able to play in any era of the NFL

I would think that I could play in any era, whether it's the old era or the new era. I would think I could play in either one. Of course, the game has changed a lot since I was playing it, and I would be hampered a little bit that you can't actually hit nobody anymore.

Subjective claim about a Hall of Famer's talent level.
Void
Nov 20, 2017
#6474
Lawrence TaylorLawrence Taylor

Quarterbacks are not a threat once you dominate them

I never hated quarterbacks. Guys like Ron Jaworski, Randall Cunningham, these guys were sacked more times than any other player. They're not a threat to you because you dominated them. Why would you hate a quarterback if you just constantly dominate them?

Subjective peak-athlete psychology.
Void
Nov 20, 2017
#23976
Lawrence TaylorLawrence Taylor

Winning a match at WrestleMania was more fun than winning a Super Bowl

I love Super Bowl, but WrestleMania was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun.

Personal preference of the speaker.
Open
Big CatBig Cat

Jerry Jones will die without the Dallas Cowboys winning another Super Bowl

The Cowboys stink, by the way... Jerry Jones, I think Jerry Jones is slowly realizing he's going to die without another Super Bowl for the Cowboys.

The Cowboys have not won a Super Bowl since 1995, and Jerry Jones is still searching for one as of the current date.

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