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Lions WR Amon Ra St Brown, Phil Mickelson Likes To Gamble, Mt Rushmore Of Siblings + Fyre Fest

Friday, August 11, 202318 takes

Phil Mickelson likes to Gamble, a lot(-). We read some headlines around the sports world and Max finally gets to celebrate a no hitter(-). Lions Wide Receiver Amon Ra St Brown joins the show to talk about his break out year, all the guys drafted in front of him, growing up with a bad ass dad, how he and his brothers settled beefs and tons more(-). We do Mt Rushmore of siblings(-) and end with Fyre fest of the week (-)

Amon-Ra St. Brown on Draft Grudges, Mr. Universe, and Lions Hype

Big Cat and PFT Commenter opened the show with some staggering news: Pardon My Take officially reached one billion downloads. It is a milestone that puts the show in the rarest air of podcasting history, though Big Cat was quick to point out how fast they hit the mark.

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Aug 11, 2023
#24080
Big CatBig Cat

Pardon My Take is the fastest podcast in history to reach 1 billion downloads

We got to 1 billion without even hitting our 500th episode. ... Fastest to a billion. We're a fucking Rocket ship.

While the billion downloads is a verified Podtrack stat, 'fastest to a billion' is difficult to verify across all private podcast data, though they are certainly in the top tier.

After the celebration, the focus shifted to the gambling habits of Phil Mickelson. According to recent reports, Lefty has wagered over a billion dollars in his lifetime. While the number is massive, PFT noted that Phil's losses are actually somewhat respectable given the sheer volume of his action.

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Aug 11, 2023
#4190
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Phil Mickelson is actually a pretty good gambler for only losing 10% of $1 billion

If we dive into Phil's gambling career, he's lost I think a hundred million dollars. Right? ... I'm gonna say that Phil Mickelson is a pretty good gambler. He's only lost 10%.

While mathematically true regarding the percentage, describing a $100 million loss as 'good' is purely subjective and meant for comedic effect.
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Aug 11, 2023
#24077
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Phil Mickelson trying to bet on the Ryder Cup while playing in it is the craziest part of his gambling story

The craziest part wasn't the 1 billion... The craziest part was that Phil tried to call in a bet on the 2012 Ryder Cup... from the golf course trying to put in... $400,000 for the US team to win.

This is a subjective judgment on which part of a news story is the most 'crazy'.

Big Cat theorized that Phil’s heavy wagering might have been the real driving force behind his move to LIV Golf, suggesting that Saudi backing is the ultimate bankroll for a man who reportedly tried to bet on a Ryder Cup he was actively playing in.

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Aug 11, 2023
#24076
Big CatBig Cat

It wouldn't be surprising if Phil Mickelson joined LIV just so the Saudis could bankroll his gambling debt

He gambled so much that it, it wouldn't be surprising if Phil like gets in bed with the Saudis and tries to have them bankroll him.

While Mickelson's specific motives are private, investigative reports and books (like Billy Walters') have strongly linked his massive gambling debts to the LIV move.

Amon-Ra St. Brown

Detroit Lions star Amon-Ra St. Brown joined the show during Grit Week to discuss the Lions' ascending expectations and his legendary work ethic. He walked the guys through his daily routine of catching 202 balls after practice, a habit born from a childhood rivalry where a peer was catching 200. St. Brown also revisited the 2021 NFL Draft, where 16 receivers were taken before him. He still reads that list of names three times every single day.

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Aug 11, 2023
#4195
Amon-Ra St. BrownAmon-Ra St. Brown

I should have been the first wide receiver taken in the 2021 NFL Draft

I'm going first. Yeah. I'd be a fool not to say yourself. I mean, all the receivers will tell you that. ... You'd be a fool not to say yourself.

While Amon-Ra is an All-Pro talent, Ja'Marr Chase and Jaylen Waddle have also been elite, making 'first' a highly debatable claim.

He also touched on the difference between combine metrics and what actually happens when the pads come on. While his 4.51 forty-yard dash might have caused some teams to hesitate, St. Brown remains a firm believer that football speed is the only thing that matters.

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Aug 11, 2023
#4196
Amon-Ra St. BrownAmon-Ra St. Brown

Game speed is much more important than 40-yard dash speed

I think game speed is a completely different than 40 speed. ... There's guys that can run 4.3 but they go out there and they don't look 4.3. And there's guys that run 4.5 that when they go out there, they're playing fast.

This is a widely held belief among modern NFL coaches and scouts, supported by GPS tracking data (Next Gen Stats).

When Big Cat and PFT started running through a "Dog Check" of the Lions roster, St. Brown gave a unique perspective on his quarterback, Jared Goff. According to the Sun God, the "dog" label is reserved for those who are doing the hitting.

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Aug 11, 2023
#4200
Amon-Ra St. BrownAmon-Ra St. Brown

Quarterbacks aren't really 'dogs' because they don't hit people

For quarterbacks it's, it's different. I mean, you can't, he can't really hit anyone ever enough to be a dog. I feel like you gotta have some type of physicality for a quarterback. ... are you really a dog? I mean, you're just throwing balls around.

This is a subjective interpretation of a sports slang term.

Mt. Rushmore of Siblings

With Amon-Ra and his brother Equanimeous both in the league, the guys transitioned into a Mt. Rushmore of Siblings. The draft got contentious immediately when Hank took aim at the most famous family in football history.

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HankHank

Peyton and Eli Manning are the most overrated siblings of all time

If we're saying most overrated siblings of all time, [the Mannings] would probably be up there. Peyton, everyone talks about Peyton, he basically won one. Eli stole two from [the Patriots].

The Mannings have four Super Bowls between them and are lock Hall of Famers; calling them the 'most overrated' is an extreme minority opinion.

Big Cat and PFT went with a heavy hitter in the third round, taking the legendary WWE duo of Kane and The Undertaker. Despite some pushback from the room on whether their brotherhood was "real," Big Cat stood by the lore of the squared circle.

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Big CatBig Cat

Kane and The Undertaker are actually half-brothers

Kane and Undertaker [are] siblings... Paul Bearer fucked Undertaker's mom and had Kane. ... This is all the truth.

This is true within the fictional storyline of WWE, but the actors (Glenn Jacobs and Mark Calaway) are not related in real life.

Meanwhile, Jake and Billy took the Wright Brothers, which led PFT to hold the pioneers of flight accountable for every single aviation disaster that has occurred since Kitty Hawk.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Wright Brothers are technically responsible for every aviation-related tragedy in history

[The Wright Brothers] are also responsible for 9/11. I mean, it was flying. It started there. ... You're also taking responsibility for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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This is a logical fallacy used for comedic effect.

Max's No-Hitter and Fyre Fest

Max finally got to celebrate a Philadelphia Phillies no-hitter after Michael Lorenzen’s dominant performance. However, Big Cat wasn't ready to let Max enjoy the moment, calling the celebration of a mid-August no-hitter "lame" and comparing Lorenzen's high pitch count to a career-altering mistake.

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Aug 11, 2023
#4194
Big CatBig Cat

Celebrating a regular-season no-hitter is lame

Celebrating a no hitter in the regular season. Like who would do that? ... [Lorenzen] is basically did the Josh Hamilton to himself. He's not gonna be the same pitcher after this match.

Lorenzen actually struggled significantly after the no-hitter, posting an ERA over 8.00 in his next five starts and eventually being moved to the bullpen. Big Cat was right on the outcome.

To wrap up the show, Big Cat shared a terrifyingly optimistic Fyre Fest regarding his four-year-old son. It turns out the toddler is having nightmares about bears, which Big Cat can only interpret as a sign of a dominant season for the Monsters of the Midway.

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Aug 11, 2023·Fyre Fest
#4202
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears are coming to get everyone in the NFL this year

My son, who's four ... keeps saying that the bears are coming to get him. I feel like that's a good thing for the bears season. ... The monsters of the midway are back.

The Bears finished the 2023 season 7-10 and missed the playoffs.

If the Bears really are coming to get everyone, the rest of the NFC North better start catching 203 balls a day.

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More Takes

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Aug 11, 2023
#4191
Big CatBig Cat

Phil Mickelson is not one of the most famous people in the world

Joe Rogan, Pardon My Take, Tiger Woods, like is whatever it is. A million X Phil in terms of, you know, celebrity and recognizability. ... I wouldn't say that if Phil Mickelson was walking down the street, do you think he would get stopped endlessly? I don't think endlessly.

The definition of 'most famous' is inherently subjective, though in terms of social media following and general population recognition, Phil is far below the global top 1%.
Win
Aug 11, 2023
#4192
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The USWNT coach is more to blame for the World Cup exit than Megan Rapinoe

I've reached a point now where I don't necessarily blame Megan Rapinoe. I blame the coach for even putting her on the roster. That's how bad she was.

Vlatko Andonovski resigned shortly after this, which aligns with the sentiment that coaching was the primary issue.
Void
Aug 11, 2023
#4193
Big CatBig Cat

Anthony Richardson's first preseason tape will decide his fate in my eyes

That tape is going to basically decide Anthony Richardson's fate in my eyes. If he throws one touchdown pass I'm in. Or one cool like stiff arm or long run. I'm all the way in.

Big Cat said Anthony Richardson's preseason tape would decide his fate 'in my eyes' — this is a personal opinion about how he'd evaluate a player, not a verifiable outcome.
Loss
Aug 11, 2023
#24075
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Harry Kane is just a tap merchant

[Harry Kane] is a tap merchant is what he is. Wow.

Kane has continued to be one of the most prolific and technically gifted strikers in Europe since this take was made.
Loss
Aug 11, 2023
#4197
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

DK Metcalf is wildly overrated as a wide receiver

DK Metcalf, he runs a straight line, but he's wildly overrated as wide receiver. ... He's not that good. I me and DK have a little thing, but I'm faster than him.

Metcalf remains one of the most productive receivers in the league, consistently putting up 1,000-yard seasons, making the 'not that good' take objectively questionable.
Loss
Aug 11, 2023
#4198
Amon-Ra St. BrownAmon-Ra St. Brown

USC is 100% back and will make the College Football Playoff

USC's back, so. ... A hundred percent. College football playoffs. That's the standard. ... We're in it right now.

USC finished the 2023 season with an 8-5 record and did not qualify for the College Football Playoff.

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