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Michael Jordan's Trainer Tim Grover, Stories About MJ, Last Dance 7 & 8 Review, Mt Flushmore Of Teammates

Monday, May 11, 202012 takes

Last Dance episode 7 and 8 were the best of the series as we finally get to see the real MJ. Calling people ho, making up slights to get himself motivated, retirement and coming back all discussed. (-) Who's back of the week including Norman Chad's terrible column and UFC periscopes. (-) Michael Jordan's long time trainer Tim Grover joins the show to talk about the Last Dance, training MJ, what it was like making the transition to and from baseball, the flu game, and much more. (-) Mt Flushmore of teammates (-) and Billy Football's deep dive into Murder Hornets (- )

Recap

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Take Slip·May 11, 2020
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Big CatBig Cat

Episode 7 of The Last Dance was the strongest episode of the entire documentary

I thought Episode 7 was the strongest episode of the entire documentary. It was so, so well done.

This is a subjective opinion on media quality.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2020
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Established media columnists in the 90s were no better than modern-day Twitter eggs

It's wild to think that in the mid nineties media, all these people who were given columns were no better than just like some Twitter egg that wanted to like put this shit out there and they got away with it and they still have jobs to this day.

Subjective comparison between historical and modern media toxicity.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2020
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Michael Jordan's personality is the only thing that allowed him to be exceptionally great

You don't say that him being a jerk made him great, but you're saying that his greatness, like, yeah, he probably would not have been looked at in the way that we look at him right now if he didn't have that personality.

The relationship between personality and performance is subjective.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2020
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Big CatBig Cat

The 1996 Bulls game against the Indiana Pacers had higher viewership than March Madness

MJ did three times the NCAA tournament. Think about that. The NBA game in the middle of March did three times NCAA tournament, so much so CBS had to do a make good for advertisers because they got so fucking roasted in viewership because MJ came back during March Madness.

Historical ratings confirm Jordan's return (March 19, 1995 vs Pacers) drew a 10.9 rating, the highest for a regular season NBA game, while the NCAA tournament games on CBS that day were lower.

Who Is Back

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Take Slip·May 11, 2020·Who's Back
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Big CatBig Cat

Roger Goodell will use a technicality to prevent Dave Portnoy from documenting the auction-won MNF game

I think they're going to figure out a technicality, right?... if he [Goodell] just had to sit with Goodell with no content being made. That's actually the ultimate own back on Dave. You just have to sit with this miserable person for an entire night and listen to him talk... and you can't make content out of it. That would kill Dave.

The NFL eventually barred Dave Portnoy from the night after a background check, preventing the meet-up from happening entirely.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2020·Who's Back
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Tekashi 6ix9ine's addiction to Instagram Live will eventually lead to his downfall

this dude is so good at self-promotion... But the only downside to it is he's addicted to going live. He goes live when he's about to commit crimes. And as somebody who's on the run from people that are looking for him, I think that's going to be his downfall.

6ix9ine has faced numerous legal and safety issues since 2020, though 'downfall' is subjective. He has continued to be a polarizing figure with waning relevance.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2020·Who's Back
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Big CatBig Cat

The lawsuit against Zion Williamson for allegedly receiving money to attend Duke is cloud chasing

Zion Williamson's former marketing agent has served request for admission in their lawsuit, asking him to admit that he received money... She's cloud chasing, yeah.

The lawsuit was ultimately dismissed/settled without proving Zion took money, but the claim of 'cloud chasing' is subjective.

Interview

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Take Slip·May 11, 2020
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Tim GroverTim Grover

Michael Jordan was only 70-75% of his peak self during the 1995 NBA return

When he came back for that shortened season, 70%, 75% best. And it was a crazy thing. Even at 70%, 75%, he's probably better than 90% of the players, but he wasn't Michael Jordan.

This is an expert physical assessment by his direct trainer. While technically subjective, it's based on his first-hand data.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2020
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Tim GroverTim Grover

The famous Flu Game was actually a case of food poisoning from a pizza

100% it was food poisoning, 100%. But obviously it just sounds better to be the flu game than the food poisoning game... Nobody ate the pizza, but him, nobody. And there was no signs of flu, anything being sick before that. And then about three o'clock in the morning... he's literally curled up in a fetal position.

Grover was there and has maintained this story for decades. Most contemporary accounts from the Bulls camp now align with this version.

Mount Flushmore

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Take Slip·May 11, 2020·Mount Flushmore
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Judas belongs on the Mount Flushmore of worst teammates of all time

I'm going to go with Judas. I consider Judas to be a teammate. Sold out Jesus. All about the contract situation. Really fucked things up for the rest of the world because he was so selfish.

This is a comedic/satirical application of sports logic to theology.
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Take Slip·May 11, 2020·Mount Flushmore
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HankHank

LeBron James is one of the worst teammates of all time because he takes all the credit and trades everyone else

LeBron James. Can't be fun to be his teammate. You're always, always in fear that he's like, if you do well, he's going to take all the credit. If you do bad, he's probably going to trade you off the team.

The 'LeGM' reputation is well-documented but his status as a 'worst teammate' is highly subjective given he wins titles with them.

Billy Deep Dive

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Take Slip·May 11, 2020·Billy Deep Dive
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Billy FootballBilly Football

Murder Hornets are not a threat to humans and people should be more worried about Africanized Bees

Murder Hornets are not a problem. The Africanized bees, on the other hand, have been killing more people per capita in the U.S. already... selfies are more dangerous than the murder hornets to the Chinese.

The Murder Hornet panic did eventually subside as they failed to establish a major presence in North America, and the annual death toll from hornets/wasps is relatively low compared to other risks.