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Mike Ditka and Aaron Nagler 10/19/16

Wednesday, October 19, 201621 takes

NLCS and ALCS recap as the Cubs are down 2-1 out in LA ( - ). Hot Seat, Cool Throne ( - ). Mike Ditka joins the show to talk about his could have been political career, football in 2016, apple washing, and who farted on Sunday Countdown last year ( - ). Aaron Nagler from Packer News hops on to figure out what the hell is wrong with Aaron Rodgers. Footwork? Olivia Munn? Brett Favre being around too much? Mike McCarthy's eyes too close together? (- ). Segments include Thoughts and Prayers for Curt Schilling's Senate opponent. Hurt or Injured Terry Francona. Sabermetrics, Could Alabama Beat the Browns. Not Afraid to go there with Stephen A. Smith and an Update on JJ Watt's last tweet.

Mike Ditka and Aaron Nagler on Football Guys and Aaron Rodgers' Yips

The Cubs are currently getting their teeth kicked in by the Dodgers in the NLCS, and while Big Cat claims there is no panic in his eyes, he’s already calling for lineup overhauls. The bats have gone ice cold, and the guys are trying to figure out if it's a strategic failure or if Joe Maddon just needs to lean into more circus acts at Wrigley.

Win
Oct 19, 2016
#17352
Big CatBig Cat

The Cubs are not dead

The Cubs are not dead. We're not panicking. But they did get the shit kicked out of them by the Dodgers in L.A. Not much else to say. Rich Hill was fantastic. You just got to wait for the bats to come alive.

The Cubs famously came back to win the NLCS and the 2016 World Series.

PFT has his own theories on why the North Siders are struggling, specifically targeting the manager’s aesthetic and the team’s philosophy during the postseason.

Loss
Oct 19, 2016
#17354
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Maddon needs to get rid of his thick-framed glasses because players won't play hard for a nerd

Number two, I think it might be time to change the glasses. You can't... You've never seen a champion with thick frames like that before. It was cute at first, Joe. We get it. Get rid of the glasses, and then I think... Players won't play hard if their manager's a nerd.

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Maddon won the World Series in 2016 while wearing those glasses.
Void
Oct 19, 2016
#17355
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Small ball wins in the playoffs

Cubs were a tremendous – they are a tremendous power-hitting team. Are they not? Small ball wins in the playoffs. Bunt, steal bases. Bunt, repeat. Contact, repent, repeat.

The 2016 Cubs won by maintaining their approach, though they did have key situational hitting.

Coach Mike Ditka

Big Cat and PFT tracked down the legend himself at his restaurant in Chicago for some guerrilla journalism. Mike Ditka didn’t disappoint, weighing in on everything from the death of the fullback to his brief flirtation with a political career. He also offered a stout defense of the current state of the Packers' signal-caller, even if the rest of the world is starting to worry.

Void
Oct 19, 2016
#17359
Mike DitkaMike Ditka

Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in football along with Tom Brady

What about Aaron Rodgers? No, he's the best. Nothing wrong with him? No, he's the best. He doesn't have the weapons, guys. Come on, he does not have the weapons around him... if you're asking me if there's one quarterback in the league, I think he's the best quarterback in football right now. Him and Brady.

Rodgers won two MVPs after this (2020, 2021), proving he remained elite.

They finally got the Coach to go on the record regarding the most important moment of his broadcasting career: the mysterious noise heard during a Sunday Countdown broadcast. Ditka maintained his innocence while suggesting the furniture might be to blame.

Void
Oct 19, 2016
#17360
Mike DitkaMike Ditka

I did not fart on the air during ESPN Sunday Countdown

It wasn't me. Not at all. It wasn't me, absolutely. I would take blame if it was me, because that was a doozy. But I don't think, and everybody looked at me, but I don't think, I don't even think it was anybody passed gas. I think it was a chair, somebody moved in the chair.

While it remains a mystery, Ditka's denial is consistent, though the 'chair' explanation is debated.

What is Wrong with Aaron Rodgers?

To get a more local perspective on the mess in Green Bay, Aaron Nagler from PackersNews.com joined the show. He didn't hold back, suggesting that the problems in Title Town aren't just a minor slump but a total mechanical and mental breakdown for number 12.

Win
Oct 19, 2016
#17361
Aaron NaglerAaron Nagler

Aaron Rodgers is currently playing the worst football of his career

He's playing so poorly right now. Packer fans definitely don't want to hear it, but he is playing the worst ball he's played in his career, and it's pretty much everything that's failing him. Everything. His footwork, his mechanics, his ability to not look at the rush, pre-reads, post-reads, everything.

Statistically, the start of 2016 was one of Rodgers' lowest points until he 'ran the table' later that year.
Push
Oct 19, 2016
#27585
Aaron NaglerAaron Nagler

Aaron Rodgers has a case of 'the yips' and is turning down open looks for bigger plays

I think it's a case of the yips. And I think you look at things where he's turning down open looks trying to find a bigger play, and then things break down and he rushes outside the pocket, and he used to make big plays doing that, and those big plays have dried up.

Rodgers famously 'ran the table' later this season and reached the NFC Championship, suggesting he overcame whatever mental or technical hurdle he was facing in October.

Nagler also addressed the mounting pressure on Mike McCarthy. With the Packers looking stagnant, the conversation turned to whether a decade in one spot is simply too long for any coach not named Belichick.

Void
Oct 19, 2016
#17362
Aaron NaglerAaron Nagler

The shelf life for an NFL coach in one spot is about ten years

Mike McCarthy in general, hey, man, he's been here 10 years. And Bill Walsh always said, you know, you're in the same place for 10 years. That's kind of your shelf life as an NFL coach. So, I don't know. Maybe his message is getting stale.

McCarthy lasted 13 seasons in Green Bay but was eventually fired as things stagnated.

Hot Seat, Cool Throne

Hot Seat, Cool Throne featured a tribute to the ultimate sacrificial lamb in the NBA and a check-in on the city of Cleveland, which is currently enjoying a sports renaissance that feels like a sign of the apocalypse.

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Brown is the ultimate hot seat guy and a sacrificial lamb for the Warriors

Mike Brown's the ultimate hot seat guy. And I actually like this move by the Warriors, by Steve Kerr. Got to have a hot seat guy around. So if Kevin Durant starts to falter, if this team, this super team doesn't do so well, Mike Brown's going to be the first to go. Also, Mike Brown is a sacrificial lamb. He stumbles out of bed every morning on the hot seat.

Mike Brown remained on staff through multiple championships and wasn't fired as a scapegoat.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cleveland Indians can play with 'house money' for the next decade because they won a title in 2016

The [Indians] are in the championship series. So as far as Cleveland goes, the whole city could just go to shit even more for the next six to 12 years, and they're still playing with house money at this point. They've had as much success this year as they could expect to have for the next decade.

The Indians did not win the 2016 World Series (losing to the Cubs), so the 'success' for that specific team didn't reach the ultimate peak, though the Cavs did win the NBA title.

Hank tried to bring up the American Athletic Conference, but Big Cat quickly shut down any talk of UConn football, proving once again that some topics just don't move the needle for the award-winning listeners.

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Big CatBig Cat

UConn football doesn't move the needle

UConn football, I don't give a fuck about. I'll just be honest about that. UConn football doesn't move the needle here.

UConn football has struggled significantly with relevance and attendance for years.

Segments

The show wrapped up with Thoughts and Prayers for anyone standing in the way of Curt Schilling’s political ambitions. While Schilling is ready to take on the Senate, Big Cat is concerned about the power dynamics at home.

Void
Oct 19, 2016
#17364
Big CatBig Cat

Curt Schilling loses his man card for needing his wife's permission to run for Senate

Curt Schilling said today that he is running for the U.S. Senate. He's made his decision. He's going to run, but he hasn't talked to his wife yet. And, yeah, he has to ask her permission... Man card on Curt. Hand over your man card.

Schilling ultimately did not run for Senate in 2018.

Finally, the guys celebrated a major milestone in their ongoing war against the most try-hard man in the NFL. It has been 20 days since JJ Watt last tweeted, and the victory feels sweet.

Loss
Oct 19, 2016
#17366
Big CatBig Cat

We have officially run JJ Watt off the internet

How long has it been since J.J. Watt tweeted? 20 days. 20 days since J.J. Watt has tweeted. We have officially run him off the internet.

Watt eventually returned to Twitter, and his silence was likely due to his season-ending injury/surgery recovery.

If the Cubs don't start hitting, Big Cat might actually have to follow through on that diet.

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Loss
Oct 19, 2016
#17353
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Maddon belongs in the American League

Two things about Joe Maddon. Number one, he's obviously an American League manager... he clearly belongs in the AL.

Maddon won the World Series with a National League team shortly after this.
Loss
Oct 19, 2016
#27581
Big CatBig Cat

The Cubs should bench Addison Russell and Jason Heyward for the rest of the NLCS

The Cubs just need to hit, and I think they probably need to put some guys – they need to have Addison Russell sit on the bench. They need Jason Heyward to stay on the bench. They need to put some guys out there, give them a shot. [Jorge] Soler, [Willson] Contreras, I don't know.

The Cubs did end up winning the 2016 World Series, but Addison Russell and Jason Heyward both played significantly in the remaining games, with Russell hitting a Grand Slam in Game 6.
Void
Oct 19, 2016
#27583
Mike DitkaMike Ditka

A 'football guy' is someone who enjoys lighting up a cigar and watching the game at home

To me, I'm a football guy, and I enjoy watching it. I enjoy lighting up a cigar and watching it in my house or my condominium. That's what I enjoy doing.

This is Ditka's personal definition of a term the show uses as a recurring bit.
Void
Oct 19, 2016
#17358
Mike DitkaMike Ditka

I would not bench Brian Hoyer for Jay Cutler if Hoyer is playing well

It would be very hard for me to make a switch... I'm not against Jay [Cutler]. I'm saying when you've got a guy playing his... if he wasn't playing well, I'd say, okay. People say, well, he's just a journeyman. Well, maybe he found... maybe this is the end of the journey. Maybe he found home.

Hoyer broke his arm shortly after this, and Cutler returned to start, making the debate moot by injury.
Void
Oct 19, 2016
#27584
Mike DitkaMike Ditka

Ronald Reagan was the 'real deal' as a President because he stood up for what was right

Ronald Reagan was the real deal, guys. I don't care what party you are, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Ronald Reagan was the real deal. And he stood up for what was right. None of the BS.

Subjective political opinion.
Loss
Oct 19, 2016
#17363
Aaron NaglerAaron Nagler

Aaron Rodgers is a nerd

Well, we know he's a nerd. Princess Bride is his favorite movie. Name me a nerd that won the Super Bowl.

Rodgers had already won a Super Bowl by this point (SB XLV).
Push
Oct 19, 2016
#27586
Aaron NaglerAaron Nagler

The Packers will barely beat the Bears in an ugly, low-scoring game on Thursday Night Football

It's going to be ugly. It's going to be low scoring. I do think the Packers win, but just barely. A lot of punts. John Fox, I feel like he's going to do that thing where he just runs the ball a bunch and punts. It's going to be ugly.

The Packers won 26-10. While they won, the score wasn't 'barely' and Rodgers actually threw for 326 yards and 3 TDs, breaking out of his slump.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill Belichick will be fined or suspended for bashing the NFL's Microsoft Surface tablets

So could this be like another tablet? Could this be hashtag tablet gate to could Roger Goodell suspend Bill Belichick? I'm calling it right now. Belichick will be fined, possibly suspended.

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Belichick was not fined or suspended for his comments about the tablets.

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