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NFL Week 4 Picks and Preview, TNF Needs More Flags + Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney In Studio

Friday, September 27, 202417 takes

Thursday Night Football doesn’t have enough flags as the Cowboys beat the Giants and everyone got hurt.(-:) The A’s last game in Oakland and fuck John Fisher forever(-). NFL Week 4 Picks and Previews including the sad state of the Jaguars and Andy Dalton doing something no Carolina Panthers QB has ever done(-). Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney join the show to talk some puck, PFT and Big Cat investing in a ball hockey team, Connor McDavid, rumour boys and tons more(-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week(-).

NFL Week 4 Picks, Al Michaels Surly Mode, and Spittin' Chiclets In Studio

We have officially entered the portion of the NFL season where Thursday Night Football becomes a war of attrition. The Cowboys beat the Giants in a game defined by laundry on the field and star players limping to the locker room. PFT found the silver lining in the broadcast, noting that Al Michaels has reached a glorious stage of his career where he simply refuses to pretend bad football is good.

Void
Sep 27, 2024
#2760
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Al Michaels is at his best when he is visibly annoyed by the quality of football

When Al Michaels is at his best now is when he's annoyed with the quality of football. And he was so annoyed. He gets into surly old man mode very early on in the first half. He was just like, well this is awful. This is terrible, Kirk, get me outta here.

Subjective opinion on entertainment value.

Before diving into the weekend slate, Big Cat and PFT paid their respects to the Oakland A’s after their final game at the Coliseum. It was a rare moment of baseball sentimentality on the show, mostly fueled by a shared hatred for John Fisher and the fact that the guys are down roughly 16 units betting on Oakland this year. Meanwhile, in the golf world, the US is currently steamrolling the Internationals in the President's Cup, much to the delight of PFT.

Win
Sep 27, 2024
#26620
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I love when the US dominates international tournaments the rest of the world cares about more than we do

I love more than anything—I love it when the United States dominates tournaments that we don't give a fuck about. And the rest of the world cares deeply about it.

The US did go on to win the 2024 President's Cup 18.5 to 11.5, continuing their historical dominance.

NFL Week 4 Picks and Previews

The board for Week 4 is looking like a prime "get right" week for favorites, at least according to Hank. Big Cat is looking at the Saints-Falcons matchup and seeing a team in New Orleans that might be ready to crash after a hot start.

Win
Sep 27, 2024·Picks
#26621
Big CatBig Cat

The Saints are coming back down to earth and I like the Falcons to beat them

I do think I like the Falcons in this game... I think the Saints are banged up and are coming back down to Earth. So they're, they have centers out and [Erik McCoy] their right guard is out. And I just, I like the Falcons.

The Falcons beat the Saints 26-24 in Week 4, making Big Cat's prediction correct.

One of the biggest points of contention this week is the Vikings. PFT is ready to buy a Sam Darnold jersey and move to Minneapolis, convinced that Kevin O'Connell has truly unlocked the former ghost-seer. Big Cat, however, thinks the vibes have reached a dangerous peak.

Win
Sep 27, 2024
#2763
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am 100% in on the Vikings; their success is not a fluke

I am, I think I'm a hundred percent in on the Vikings. I think I'm in on 'em. I don't think what they're doing is a fluke. I think that their defense is really confusing. And I think that Sam Darnold, I don't know if Sam Darnold's like a, a great starting quarterback at large in the NFL, but in this offense with this head coach, I think he's really, really good.

The Vikings continued to have a strong season and made the playoffs with Darnold playing well, proving it wasn't a fluke through Week 4.
Loss
Sep 27, 2024
#2765
Big CatBig Cat

The Vikings at Packers game is an absolute sell-high spot for Sam Darnold

I somewhat agree with like, it's not fluky in the fact that I think they're a good team. I just think this is like their absolute sell high spot. It's like everyone's, like the Vikings are for real. I am feeling like this is a spot where Sam Darnold's gonna lay an egg and everyone's gonna get off the scent.

The Vikings actually beat the Packers 31-29 in Week 4 and Darnold threw for 3 TDs, so it wasn't a sell-high clunker.

Moving to the Windy City, the guys are actually feeling optimistic about Caleb Williams. After a 363-yard performance, the narrative that he’s a bust has officially been put in the shredder.

Win
Sep 27, 2024
#2767
Big CatBig Cat

Caleb Williams is already 'out' after throwing for 363 yards

I mean he threw for 363 yards last week. I think he's gonna, I think he's already out. You think he's out? Yeah, he's out. [PFT: if he goes dummy this game, I think he's out already] then I think that's the coming out party. He's already out. I don't need Nerd Stats to know. He's already out. He's been out.

Williams had a strong rookie season showing franchise potential, though it was a rocky start.

Over in Philadelphia, the vibes are significantly worse. Max is already reaching his breaking point with the Eagles' big defensive signing, Bryce Huff. Despite the injuries to the Eagles' receiving corps, the line for their game against the Bucs has the guys scratching their heads and looking toward Vegas for answers.

Win
Sep 27, 2024
#2769
MaxMax

Bryce Huff sucks and I am already done with him

Is this a get right game for Bryce Huff? Nah, he sucks. I'm done with him. I hate Bryce Huff. He sucks.

Huff struggled significantly early in the season and was benched from his starting role, partially validating Max's frustration.
Loss
Sep 27, 2024
#2771
Big CatBig Cat

The Eagles are winning because the line making no sense means Vegas knows something

Honestly, it makes no sense that they're two point favorites in this game. I like the Eagles. I think we talked our way through it. I like the Eagles specifically because Vegas knows something. It makes no sense. The only sense I can think of is the way the Bucs have won... I think we take the Eagles as a team.

The Eagles lost to the Buccaneers 33-16 in Week 4. The fishy line theory failed.

As for the rest of the slate, PFT is predicting a classic "rock-off" in San Francisco where neither team remembers the forward pass exists, and Hank is begging the Patriots organization to keep Drake Maye in bubble wrap until 2026.

Push
Sep 27, 2024·Picks
#26623
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 49ers and Patriots will both just 'pound the rock' in a rock-off game

I feel like this is a double correction game. Where Shanahan fresh off his, 'oh shit, I did the Super Bowl thing again' [passing too much] is gonna pound the rock. And the Patriots are also gonna pound the rock at, it's gonna be a rock off.

The 49ers ran for 148 yards and won easily 30-13. The Patriots only managed 73 yards on the ground. Not quite a 'rock-off' as the 49ers also threw for 283 yards.
Loss
Sep 27, 2024
#2773
HankHank

Shut Drake Maye down for the entire season to protect him

I hope not [seeing Drake Maye play]. Even in the one drive that he played, he got crushed. When we have an offensive line that can block for him. So not until next year and maybe the year after. Not shut him down, but I, I would not get like, I, I get more scared than excited if he goes in.

Drake Maye actually started later in the season (starting in Week 6) and played well, proving he was ready despite the line.

Spittin' Chiclets In Studio

Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissonnette joined the show for a special black-and-white "art" interview to discuss the upcoming NHL season and the absolute chaos surrounding the Boston Bruins and their goalie, Jeremy Swayman. Whitney brought the heat, breaking down the lowball offers and the radio silence from the Bruins' front office that led to GM Don Sweeney calling Spittin' Chiclets the "Spitting Up on Yourself" podcast.

Win
Sep 27, 2024
#2777
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The Bruins lowballed Jeremy Swayman with a four-year, $6.2 million offer

I find out that the offer is four years times 6.2 [million] crazy low ball. And that they haven't talked in like three weeks. It's August, camps in 10 days.

Swayman eventually signed an 8-year, $66M contract ($8.25M AAV) in October, confirming the earlier numbers were indeed low compared to the final deal, though Sweeney publicly denied Whitney's specific claim about not calling for three weeks.

Beyond the contract drama, the guys talked about the pressure on Connor McDavid to finally secure a ring and Ryan Whitney's new obsession with Shohei Ohtani.

Open
Sep 27, 2024
#2778
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

Conor McDavid will win at least one Stanley Cup in the next four years

No doubt in my mind [McDavid can win the big one]. I'm very confident that this is the year... Life or death four years, like a four year span, gun your head. I would say they, yeah, I would say they would win one cup. That would be my guess. Life or death.

Pending the results of the 2025-2028 NHL seasons.
Void
Sep 27, 2024
#2779
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Shohei Ohtani is a better global superstar and better at his sport than anyone ever

Do you remember when I came on the show and you guys relentlessly tortured me for saying McDavid was better at his sport than anyone else in the world. I've now switched it to Ohtani. And I'm like obsessed with watching this guy play baseball. And it might be Travis Hunter. No, Tani... nobody's done consistently offense and defense in the NFL... it's not, it's insane watching this guy.

Subjective claim about GOAT status, but Ohtani is widely considered to be performing unprecedented feats.

In a shocking turn of events, Big Cat and PFT have officially committed to investing in a ball hockey team with Yands to take down the Big Deal Selects. If the Selects lose, Biz has to fold the franchise and move them to Utah.

Before letting them go, the guys had to address a legendary story involving Biz’s sister, a husband named Paul, and a very poorly timed brunch entrance. Let’s just say Biz has seen a side of the "wood shed" he can never unsee.

Fyre Fest and Stu Finer

Fyre Fest of the week featured Hank’s ongoing war with the spider population on his balcony and PFT’s terrifying experience trying to get stitches removed by an urgent care doctor who seemed to be learning medicine in real-time. Just as things were winding down, Stu Finer barged into the studio, incredibly high, to hand out legal joints and scream about how much he loves Jayden Daniels.

PFT is all-in on the Commanders future, even if it means his heart gets ripped out by November.

Open
Sep 27, 2024·Picks
#26624
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I'm ready to be hurt again by the Commanders; we're winning a Super Bowl in the next five years

I'm ready to be heard again. Yes. ... Like I said, [Jayden Daniels] is, we're gonna win a Super Bowl in the next five years.

This prediction covers a five-year window starting in 2024.

Don't swallow the eight spiders a year, it's a lie from the school agenda lobby.

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Loss
Sep 27, 2024
#2775
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

I heard a rumor that Christian McCaffrey might retire

Did you hear Ryan Whitney say that he heard a rumor that he's might retire? [Whitney: Really? That seems crazy. Whitney also... admitted in the interview that they just fuck around a lot with rumors. Yeah, it's a crazy rumor. Definitely not true.]

McCaffrey returned to play later in the 2024 season and did not retire.
Void
Sep 27, 2024·Picks
#26622
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Antonio Pierce is overcorrecting with his 'hard-ass' first-year coach act

I just feel like he's, he might be doing the, the hard ass first year head coach thing. Like he might be overcorrecting where he is saying he might also bench Gardner Minshew... he's doing the, it's the classic hard noses first year head coach thing where he is like, 'I'm gonna fix everything immediately.'

While subjective, the Raiders' season continued to spiral after this, leading to the Davante Adams trade request, suggesting Pierce's approach may have caused friction.
Win
Sep 27, 2024
#2776
Big CatBig Cat

Patrick Mahomes is having the most 'fuck you' career by playing average regular season football and winning Super Bowls

Patrick Mahomes has not been very good. I have a fun stat for you. In the last eight regular season games, Patrick Mahomes is 11 touchdowns, nine interception... Which made me believe that there's a chance, Patrick Mahomes might just have the most fuck you career of all time to everyone who watches football and win like 10 Super Bowls and just play average football every regular season.

Mahomes stats remained lower than his career averages throughout the 2024 regular season while the Chiefs continued to win.

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