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Rachel Nichols + We Question Science

Wednesday, December 19, 201815 takes

MNF recap, Cam Newton is hurt, and we fix the fumble out of the end zone rule. Booger and Witten are back for another season ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne plus we finally admit we like Carrie Underwood's Game On song ( - ). ESPN's Rachel Nichols joins the show to catch up on NBA, Jimmy Butler, Lebron playing out west, where is Carmelo Anthony, and how big of a joke the Chicago Bulls are ( - ). Segments include SOPRANOS SPOILERS BE ALERT, Pinstripe Update for Bryce Harper, Stay Classy Rick Barnes, Connect The Dots Kyrie questions people questioning Steph and we question Science and Guys on Chicks.

Rachel Nichols on NBA Trade Rumors, Bulls Jokes, and Questioning Science

We have reached that point in the NFL season where the injuries are undeniable and the playoff pictures are clarifying, starting with a Monday Night Football cleanup. Watching Cam Newton try to throw the ball right now is a legitimate struggle for anyone with functioning eyeballs. Big Cat noted that the former MVP hasn't looked the same since taking a massive hit from T.J. Watt earlier this year.

Win
Dec 19, 2018
#6096
Big CatBig Cat

Cam Newton is clearly playing through a severe shoulder injury

If you have two eyes and a brain, Cam Newton is very, very hurt... Different guy since he got hit by T.J. Watt in that Thursday night football game.

Newton underwent shoulder surgery in January 2019, confirming the severity of the injury discussed here.

While the Panthers are falling apart, the New Orleans Saints are solidifying their spot at the top. PFT is fully convinced that Brees and company are the class of the conference, especially with a defense that has suddenly turned into a juggernaut.

Win
Dec 19, 2018
#6097
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Saints are the most complete team in the NFC

The Saints look pretty good. Their defense is awesome, I would say. So, yeah, they are probably the most complete team in the NFC, I would say.

The Saints finished 13-3 and earned the #1 seed in the NFC, though they famously lost in the NFC Championship due to the 'No Call'.

Speaking of that game, the guys got into the perennial debate over the fumble-out-of-the-end-zone touchback rule. While most of the internet thinks it's the worst rule in sports, PFT is standing his ground as a defender of the chaos, arguing that the defense deserves a massive reward for a goal-line stand.

Void
Dec 19, 2018
#6098
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The fumble-out-of-the-end-zone touchback rule is actually good because it rewards defense

You're looking at as the punishment doesn't fit the crime... You should look at it as the reward. It fits the feat. It fits the accomplishment. So if you're the defense and you make a guy fumble through the end zone at the one-yard line, that's an awesome play... You should get a big reward for that.

This is an inherently subjective take on a sports rule.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Witchcraft

Hank’s hot seat this week is Fortnite, specifically because the 'Backpack Kid' and Alfonso Ribeiro are suing the game over their signature dances. It led to a larger discussion about why the Backpack Kid still has to wear a backpack everywhere he goes, effectively creating his own personal hell. Meanwhile, Big Cat’s cool throne took a turn for the supernatural after Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey reportedly sent his beard hair to Azealia Banks for an amulet to protect him from ISIS.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

If you don't believe in witchcraft and its protective powers, you're crazy

The cool throne is witchcraft. If you don't believe in this stuff, you're crazy. Because Jack Dorsey... sent in his beard hair to get himself protection against ISIS. Seems like it worked.

This is a purely subjective take delivered for comedic effect.

In a shocking turn of events, Big Cat finally surrendered to the Sunday Night Football marketing machine. After weeks of bashing Carrie Underwood’s new 'Game On' intro, he admitted he’s officially been brainwashed into liking it because it signals that football is about to start.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

I actually like Carrie Underwood's 'Game On' Sunday Night Football song now

I have maybe been tweeting about that from weeks one through 14, and then week 15... I just started singing it, and I was like, you know what? I give up. I like this song now.

This is a subjective opinion on a song.

Rachel Nichols Joins the Show

Recurring guest and Hall of Famer Rachel Nichols stopped by to help the guys catch up on an NBA season they've mostly ignored until now. The conversation immediately turned to the Jimmy Butler saga in Minnesota and his subsequent move to Philly. Rachel pointed out that while the Sixers have the star power, their current roster construction might be doing Joel Embiid a disservice.

Win
Dec 19, 2018
#24160
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The 76ers need to add more shooters to optimize the spacing for Joel Embiid and Jimmy Butler

[Embiid] seems like he's having some trouble with figuring out spacing and where he wants to be... that has less to do with Jimmy and much more to do with they need more shooters on that team.

The 76ers' lack of shooting was a persistent issue during this era, leading to the team eventually letting Butler walk and failing to find the right balance around Embiid and Simmons.

As a Chicago native, Big Cat had to ask the hard questions about the state of the Bulls. Rachel didn't hold back, confirming that the organization has become a laughingstock among league insiders, particularly under the current leadership and the 'college-style' coaching of Jim Boylen.

Win
Dec 19, 2018
#6101
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The Chicago Bulls are viewed as a 'joke' around the NBA

Nick Friedell is our insider today... He said, around the league, when you go around and talk to people, the word they use talking about the Chicago Bulls is a joke.

The Bulls 2018-19 season was a disaster, featuring a player near-mutiny against Jim Boylen shortly after his hiring.
Win
Dec 19, 2018
#24164
Big CatBig Cat

Chicago Bulls executive John Paxson has a job for life and will never be truly fired

John Paxson has a job for life. I actually think that... in 50 years when he passes... the Reinsdorfs will put an eternal flame in his office and that oil to keep that eternal flame lit will probably hamstring them so they can't sign any free agents.

Paxson was eventually demoted to a 'senior advisor' role in 2020 but remained with the organization, proving Big Cat's point about his job security.

Moving West, the Lakers are always the biggest story in the room. Rachel gave us some insider CBA knowledge about why Magic Johnson might need to move fast if he wants to pair Anthony Davis with LeBron James before Danny Ainge can get involved this summer. She also confirmed that in a potential trade, nobody is safe except for the King himself.

Push
Dec 19, 2018
#6103
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The Lakers have a better shot at trading for Anthony Davis now than in the summer

If you're the LA Lakers and you want a shot at Anthony Davis without Danny Ainge and all his pile of assets competing with you... they have a more clear run at Anthony Davis now than they will in the summer.

The Lakers did try to trade for him at the 2019 deadline but failed; they eventually got him in the summer of 2019 once the Pelicans were willing to deal.
Win
Dec 19, 2018
#24161
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The Lakers would trade anyone on their roster except LeBron James to get Anthony Davis

There is nobody on that roster that you wouldn't trade to get Anthony Davis playing with LeBron James.

The Lakers did exactly this in the 2019 offseason, trading almost all their young assets (Ingram, Ball, Hart) and picks to acquire Davis.

Questioning Science and Guys on Chicks

To wrap things up, the guys took a page out of Kyrie Irving and Steph Curry’s book by 'just asking questions' about everything. From the color of the sky to the boiling point of water and why the metric system exists, nothing was safe from their pseudo-intellectual scrutiny. It turns out that when you stop believing facts, you can feel much smarter than you actually are.

Finally, the show closed with Guys on Chicks, featuring a woman asking how to handle her husband's terrible family on Christmas and a very confused pregnant listener wondering where the baby’s waste goes while in the womb.

Remember to lay down a towel for Wet Wednesday and keep an eye out for any coral gifts this holiday season.

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More Takes

Win
Dec 19, 2018
#6105
HankHank

Bryce Harper will sign with the Philadelphia Phillies

Bold prediction. Phillies.

Bryce Harper signed a 13-year, $330 million contract with the Phillies in February 2019.
Void
Dec 19, 2018
#6099
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James would be the best netball player in the world right now

How long do you think it would take for LeBron James to be the best netball player in the world? Probably he is right now already.

LeBron's dominance in netball is untested but remains a funny hypothetical.
Win
Dec 19, 2018
#6102
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

Luke Walton's job is safe for the rest of the season

I don't see Luke Walton on the hot seat because Magic Johnson said he's going to be around for the rest of the season barring something catastrophic. So there you go.

Luke Walton coached the entire 2018-19 season but was fired immediately after the season ended in April 2019.
Void
Dec 19, 2018
#6104
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

Kawhi Leonard is a robot who does not have emotions

He doesn't have emotions. He's a robot... he doesn't have a heart yet. He laughed, there was some laughing, him and Nick Saban laughed the same way, they both have like a button they're like it is appropriate to laugh now so I will push my tickle button.

Kawhi is a human, but his public persona remains inscrutable.
Win
Dec 19, 2018
#24162
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The Rockets will not finish as the top seed in the Western Conference this season

I don't think they're going to be the top seed in the West this year. I think I can go out on a limb and say that.

The Rockets finished as the 4th seed in the Western Conference.

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