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Ryan Fitzpatrick, Playoff Baseball Talk, CFB Wrap Up + Jimbos

Wednesday, October 11, 202325 takes

Jordan Love might stink. We talk Monday Night Football and residual clean up from Sunday (-). Playoff baseball and Max's brain is in a pickle after the Game 2 loss in Atlanta (-). College Football talk, is Bama back (-)? And Sark coaching to lose. Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Mark Davis and Lebron James (-). Ryan Fitzpatrick joins us to talk football, QB play around the league, how hard it is to deal with the media and more (-). We finish with Jimbos (-).

Ryan Fitzpatrick on QB Play, Playoff Baseball, and College Football Chaos

Monday Night Football gave us a clash between the Raiders and the Packers that left Big Cat feeling a very specific type of joy. Watching Jordan Love struggle was like an early Christmas gift for a Bears fan who has spent decades under the thumb of Green Bay quarterbacks.

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Oct 11, 2023
#9622
Big CatBig Cat

Jordan Love might suck

Jordan love might suck. I was smiling... He looked pretty bad. Both teams look bad.

Jordan Love had a rough start but turned his season around late, leading the Packers to a playoff win and earning a massive contract extension.

PFT noticed that Jimmy Garoppolo seems to have found the perfect retirement-adjacent lifestyle. He’s making a fortune to play for a team with minimal expectations in the gambling capital of the world.

Void
Oct 11, 2023
#9625
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jimmy Garoppolo's move to the Raiders was a 'dog move' just to fuck around in Vegas with zero expectations

My respect for Jimmy G went up thinking about the fact that he took the contract to go play in Las Vegas. 67.5 million dollars to go hang out in Las Vegas and just fuck around for a few years with probably zero expectation of winning. That's a dog move. He did not do that to win football games. He did that to fuck around and have a good time.

Subjective interpretation of a player's career motivations.

The fallout from the Cowboys getting dismantled by the 49ers led to some podcast warfare between Micah Parsons and Deebo Samuel. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers is out here challenging Travis Kelce to a vaccine debate, and Big Cat thinks the rules of engagement are already set.

Win
Oct 11, 2023
#9626
Big CatBig Cat

If Travis Kelce and Dr. Fauci don't accept Aaron Rodgers' debate challenge, they officially lose

Under debate laws, if Travis Kelce and Dr. Fauci do not accept the debate they have lost. That is how debates work online.

They never debated, and by internet 'challenge' logic, this is how 'wins' are claimed by the challenger.

Maximum Heartbreak at the Bank

Max is in a dark place after the Phillies dropped Game 2 in Atlanta in agonizing fashion. After Zach Wheeler took a no-hitter into the seventh, a series of questionable decisions and a legendary defensive play by Michael Harris II turned the game on its head. Max tried his best to spin the loss as something noble, much to the delight of everyone else in the room.

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Oct 11, 2023
#9629
MaxMax

The Phillies losing Game 2 was a 'better way to lose' than a bad loss because they showed fight

I would much rather see go down like that than if they were to roll over. It's not a good loss. It was a bad loss... but the team showed enough fight to win that game. The Braves just played better in the ninth. I would rather see [that].

Inherently subjective 'cope' logic.

While Max worries about whistles in the stands and Navy Seals signaling pitches, Big Cat is looking at the bigger picture for the Dodgers. Los Angeles is staring down another early exit, and he suspects the league won't let their biggest brand keep failing for long.

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Oct 11, 2023
#9632
Big CatBig Cat

The MLB will change the rules to help the Dodgers if they get swept again

Only thing I fear is that if the Dodgers lose again, they're 100% gonna get the rules changed to make it so that the Dodgers can be like automatically in the NLCS. 'Cause this would be back to back years.

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The rules weren't changed to automatically seed them, but discussions about changing the playoff format for top seeds have continued.

Mario Cristobal’s Clock Management Clinic

College Football Saturday was headlined by the Red River Rivalry, but the real story was in Miami. Mario Cristobal deciding not to take a knee against Georgia Tech is a mistake that will live in infamy.

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Oct 11, 2023
#9634
Big CatBig Cat

Miami's failure to take a knee against Georgia Tech might be the worst regular season loss ever

I think that Miami loss might've been the worst loss ever. Not taking a knee 35 seconds left in the game... The game is won. Game is over. I watched that clip so many times and I still couldn't comprehend what was going on.

Widely regarded as one of the most statistically unnecessary and preventable losses in college football history.

On a more serious note, Alabama seems to have found their identity again. They aren't the high-flying circus they were under Bryce Young, but Nick Saban is doing a masterful job of winning ugly with a defense-first mentality.

Win
Oct 11, 2023
#25130
Big CatBig Cat

This season might be Nick Saban's best coaching job ever

I'm actually gonna go, I'm gonna reverse everything we said a couple weeks ago after the USF game... Is this Nick Saban's best coaching job? He doesn't really have a quarterback... Jalen Milroe throws a great, great ball [but] neither quarterback can throw the intermediate stuff. But Alabama has found something like we are a defensive team... it could be Nick Saban's best coaching job.

Saban led a team that struggled early to an SEC Championship victory over Georgia and a CFP appearance, which many analysts retrospectively agreed was one of his most impressive developmental seasons.

Big Cat also pointed out that despite all the hand-wringing about NIL and the transfer portal, the sport is actually in a great place. Ratings are up, and for the first time, fans actually know who the players are before they hit the NFL draft.

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Oct 11, 2023
#9636
Big CatBig Cat

NIL is actually good for college football because players stay longer and market themselves

Maybe the NIL isn't the death of college football. America's getting smarter and we're watching more football... players get to stay longer because now they can make money. Players get to market themselves... the fact that players can actually, we can put a face to their name now and they're out in front of it, it might be good for the sport. Who would've thought?

Viewership and engagement have continued to rise alongside the expansion of NIL.

FitzMagic Joins the Show

Our good friend Ryan Fitzpatrick stopped by to talk about his transition to the media world and his take on the current crop of NFL signal callers. He didn't hold back on his former peers, specifically when it comes to the guy currently leading the Lions.

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Oct 11, 2023
#9644
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

Jared Goff is a 'poor man's Matt Ryan'

He reminds me a lot of your former QB [Matt Ryan], maybe a poor man's Matt Ryan. It's not a slight on him. Matt's a great quarterback... Jared's great at the play action. He's great when you give him time. Get after him a little bit, speed up his clock. He's playing great right now. He's a guy that's resilient.

Subjective comparison between two successful, pocket-passing QBs.

Fitzpatrick broke down why certain quarterbacks are succeeding while others flounder, giving a massive amount of credit to the processing power of Brock Purdy. He also gave us his definitive list of the top four teams in the NFC, leaving a few heavy hitters on the outside looking in.

Push
Oct 11, 2023
#25133
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

The top four teams in the NFC are the 49ers, Eagles, Lions, and Seahawks

San Fran obviously. Philadelphia. My boy Jared Goff and his Lions... the fourth best team in the NFC? I'm gonna say Seattle.

The 49ers, Eagles, and Lions were indeed the class of the NFC, but the Seahawks finished 9-8 and missed the postseason while the Cowboys and Packers surged.

Before he left, Fitzpatrick weighed in on the most controversial play in football: the Eagles' Brotherly Shove. While some people want it banned, Fitz thinks the solution is much more violent and straightforward.

Void
Oct 11, 2023
#25137
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

The only way to stop the Eagles' 'tush push' is to legally or illegally blow up the center and quarterback to make them uncomfortable

How do you stop the tush push? Why are you not taking your biggest defender and having them try to time out the snap count and just blow up the center and the quarterback? Worst case scenario, that's a five yard penalty... next time they're like, 'oh my God, this is gonna happen again.' Jason Kelce's gonna be like, 'look, we gotta stop calling this play.' Make Jason Kelce uncomfortable.

The 'tush push' remained highly effective through the end of the 2023 season, and no team successfully implemented this specific 'deterrent' strategy to stop it.

The episode wrapped up with Jimbos and Hot Seat/Cool Throne, featuring Jerry Jones' bizarre desire to turn the Cowboys into a Big Ten West offense.

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Big CatBig Cat

Jerry Jones wants the Cowboys to run the Iowa offense with an all-tight end focus

Jerry Jones went on radio and said something ridiculous... They asked him about getting CeeDee Lamb more involved and Jerry Jones said, 'I don't know about that. I like seeing the ball go to tight ends.' Oh, your star wide receiver? That is a mismatch. Nope. Let's go tight ends. Jerry Jones, he wants to run the Iowa offense.

Lamb eventually became the focal point of the offense and had a career year.

Max better hope Aaron Nola has his good stuff on Wednesday, or the local Philly population might not be the only thing Max is afraid of.

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More Takes

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HankHank

The Official World Golf Ranking's decision to ignore LIV Golf is absolute bullshit

The official golf world ranking has chosen to just ignore LIV golf as a real sport or league. Shit. So LIV golf players are not gonna be able to qualify for majors and things like that... it's a problem for them when you have LIV golf players that are winning majors to then say that the tour that they play on doesn't produce players that are good enough.

The ranking controversy remains a major point of debate in golf, though some LIV players have since seen pathways open through other criteria.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mark Davis invented the 'muff' style hand warmer

Mark Davis invented the hand warmer. The owner of the Las Vegas Raiders. Mark Davis developed the Muff in 1986... for use by professional football teams. And that year, Davis began to market them for the fans. It's the muff style hand warmer.

Mark Davis did indeed patent the muff-style hand warmer in the mid-80s.
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Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James being left off the NBA executive poll for clutch shooters is a personal insult

Which player would you want taking a shot with the game on the line? Number one was Steph Curry... LeBron James wasn't there. LeBron getting left off that list, that seems personal. He's gonna have to use that. He's gonna go to Zero Dark 30.

The poll is factual, but the 'personal' nature is Big Cat's opinion on how LeBron will react.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The future of the Green Bay Packers looks bleak

I'm actually gonna go with the Green Bay Packers. Oh, I like it. Just strictly based on what we saw on Monday night.

Incorrect. The Packers went on a tear in the second half of the season, finished 9-8, and destroyed the Cowboys in the Wild Card round, establishing Jordan Love as a franchise star.
Void
Oct 11, 2023
#25134
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

The top four quarterbacks in the NFL right now are Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Tua Tagovailoa, and Brock Purdy

Patrick Mahomes. Josh Allen. I've got two more I'm gonna go with—people are gonna be furious—Tua and Brock Purdy. [Leaving off Jalen Hurts] Brock knows his weaknesses, he knows his strengths... he's on a different level than most other quarterbacks in the league.

Subjective ranking of performance at that specific moment in the 2023 season.
Win
Oct 11, 2023
#9646
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

Brock Purdy's processing ability is on a different level than most NFL quarterbacks

The processing ability of [Brock Purdy] read one, read two, read three, every time he makes a decision to scramble outside the pocket, like the guy is almost perfect in the way that he thinks about the game and his mind just computes what's happening. So it's an amazing thing. This guy, he's throwing the ball down the field. It's not Checkdown Fest... Him up here [in the head], he's on a different level than most other quarterbacks in the league.

Purdy went on to finish top 4 in MVP voting and led the 49ers to the Super Bowl.
Loss
Oct 11, 2023
#9648
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

Sam Howell has already shown enough to be a franchise quarterback

Sam Howell has impressed me as being a tough motherfucker too. And he is making some good throws. There's no doubt and I think, I think he's already there [being a franchise QB].

Incorrect. Howell led the league in interceptions, was benched late in the season, and was traded to the Seahawks in the offseason after the Commanders used the #2 pick on Jayden Daniels.
Win
Oct 11, 2023
#25135
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

The Ravens will be a dangerous team at the end of the year and very difficult to beat in the postseason

What I said all along about the Ravens is they're gonna be really difficult in the postseason. And the reason why is they're just going to continue to get better on offense... Todd Monken and Lamar [Jackson] are still figuring things out in his system... they're gonna be a really dangerous team at the end of the year.

Correct. The Ravens earned the #1 seed in the AFC and reached the AFC Championship game.
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Oct 11, 2023
#25136
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

Russell Wilson is playing himself out of Hall of Fame consideration with his performance in Denver

If that was a Hall of Fame career, those first 10 years and winning the Super Bowl and all those wins, it does feel like he's playing himself outta consideration the last few years. You look at his relationship with Sean Payton and how already you're getting the eye rolls.

Wilson's subsequent benching and release by Denver further supported the idea that his legacy took a significant hit.
Void
Oct 11, 2023
#25138
Big CatBig Cat

You cannot tank in the NFL because everyone is playing for their next contract

It's a great point that we forget... The tank—you can't tank in the NFL, it's impossible to tank. Because everyone's trying, playing for a job. So even when a team looks terrible, they're still gonna go out... you can't tank on a full season.

This is a philosophical take on the nature of professional football incentives.
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Oct 11, 2023
#9650
Big CatBig Cat

You cannot tell the story of football without Ryan Fitzpatrick

So we thank you. Wow. So you, we just made your case for the Hall of Fame. You cannot tell the story of football without Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Inherently subjective criteria for Hall of Fame induction.
Loss
Oct 11, 2023
#9649
Ryan FitzpatrickRyan Fitzpatrick

The Super Bowl will be 49ers vs. Dolphins

I think, you know, this is not a hot take that, I think San Francisco's the best team in the NFC. So let's go San Francisco. Miami.

Incorrect. The 49ers made the Super Bowl, but the Dolphins were eliminated in the Wild Card round by the Chiefs.
Win
Oct 11, 2023
#25139
MaxMax

Aaron Nola's upcoming Game 3 start defines everything for his Phillies legacy

This is the everything Aaron Nola game. This defines everything because I'm kind of an Aaron Nola hater, but if he pitches well, I'll love him forever. If he pitches poorly, I never wanna see his face again... Mentally he will be dead in my brain.

Aaron Nola pitched a masterpiece in Game 3 vs the Braves (5.2 IP, 0 ER, 9 K) and subsequently signed a massive 7-year extension with the Phillies, meaning Max's 'love him forever' outcome was met.

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