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Ryan Whitney, NFL Trade Deadline, James Harden Traded Again, CFB Talk And More

Wednesday, November 1, 202318 takes

Sports equinox and we start with the NFL trade deadline as well as some MNF wrap up as the Lions head into the bye (-). James Harden is traded again and is he the GOAT of trade requests (-)? Choose your own adventure World Series edition (-). CFB talk, who's in who's out and Conor Stalions continue to entertain the world (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including our upcoming baseball challenge that will 100 percent lead to injuries (-). Ryan Whitney joins the show for our NHL preview, Bedard, whats happening with his Oilers, Georgia Bulldogs and more (-). We finish with Jimbos (-).

Ryan Whitney on the NHL Season, NFL Trade Deadline, and James Harden

The sports equinox is in full swing, and Big Cat and PFT are dealing with the fallout of a chaotic trade deadline across two different leagues. The Washington Commanders officially signaled a fire sale by shipping off Montez Sweat and Chase Young. While PFT is mourning the loss of his defensive line, Big Cat is trying to convince himself that the Bears aren't just doing Bears things again by giving up a second-round pick for a guy entering free agency.

Win
Nov 1, 2023
#9945
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears would never trade a second-round pick for Montez Sweat without a long-term deal in place

I assume every trade like this, you assume that there is a deal in place to resign Montez Sweat. So everyone's like, why would you trade a second round pick for a guy who's gonna be a free agent? Obviously if he becomes a free agent, this is the dumbest deal ever. I am assuming that Ryan Polls has already worked it out with his agent and there's a plan in place to sign him long-term.

Montez Sweat signed a four-year, $98 million extension with the Bears on November 4, 2023, just days after the trade.

PFT isn't just sitting in his grief, though. He's already found a new home for his postseason hopes, following Chase Young out to the Bay Area and adopting the 49ers as his temporary squad.

Push
Nov 1, 2023
#9946
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am officially all in on the San Francisco 49ers

I would like to officially announce I'm all in on the Niners now. I Trent Williams, chase Young Kyle Shanahan. I said this on, on Monday's show. But if you're a fan of a shitty franchise, the best you can do sometimes is to just root for your guys to win somewhere. So I'm, I'm gonna put a big future on the Niners. They're my team.

The Niners made the Super Bowl but lost, so while they were a good bet, they didn't win the title PFT implies with 'big future'.

Speaking of dysfunctional franchises, the guys checked in on the Las Vegas Raiders. After watching Jimmy Garoppolo miss a wide-open Davante Adams enough times to make a man go blind, PFT has a theory that Josh McDaniels might actually be a genius, just one that requires a very specific set of Hall of Fame tools to function.

Loss
Nov 1, 2023
#9947
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Josh McDaniels is a misunderstood genius whose offense only works with Hall of Fame players

I think maybe we're all wrong about Josh McDaniels. Maybe he is an offensive genius, but maybe there's just no players that are good enough to play football at the level that Josh McDaniels expects... his offense only works if it's Tom Brady and Randy Moss running it. And if it's anybody else, then it just looks like the biggest nightmare you've ever seen.

McDaniels was fired on October 31, 2023 (released early Nov 1), proving his 'genius' was a failure.

James Harden’s Professional Divorce

James Harden finally got his wish and was traded to the Clippers at two in the morning, proving once again that he is the undisputed king of forcing his way out of town. Big Cat couldn't help but admire the sheer commitment to being a terrible employee.

Void
Nov 1, 2023
#29172
Big CatBig Cat

James Harden is the GOAT of being a bad teammate and employee.

James Harden... he's got GOAT tendencies because he somehow has gotten traded now three times where everyone's like, he's got no leverage... he deserves at least respect for being how bad of like a teammate and employee is. Like he's the GOAT at that.

This is a subjective evaluation of a player's reputation and career conduct.

Max is trying to stay positive by hyping up Tyrese Maxey as the new savior of Philadelphia, even going so far as to crown him the king of the East after just one week of play. Big Cat and PFT are less convinced about the Clippers' new "Super Team" outlook, predicting a very familiar ceiling for the Harden-Kawhi-Westbrook experiment.

Loss
Nov 1, 2023
#29173
Big CatBig Cat

The Clippers will win one playoff series and then get dismantled by the Nuggets in the playoffs.

I can't wait to watch this team win one playoff series, have all of ESPN be like, 'watch out for the Clippers,' and then lose like four to one against the Nuggets.

The Clippers actually performed worse than predicted, losing in the first round to the Dallas Mavericks.

College Football Chaos and the Sign-Stealer

With the first CFP rankings dropping, Big Cat is looking at the resumes and seeing one team that stands above the rest, even if they aren't the consensus best team on the field.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Ohio State should be ranked #1 in the first CFP rankings based on resume

If I had to take a guess, I would think that Ohio State will be one and there'll be Georgia and Michigan in a two three... Ohio state only because they do probably have the best resume on paper with a Penn State win and a Notre Dame Road win.

Ohio State was indeed ranked #1 in the first 2023 CFP rankings released on October 31, 2023.

The guys also obsessed over the legend of Connor Stalions, the Michigan staffer turned international man of mystery who may or may not have been spotted on the Central Michigan sidelines in a disguise. Between the Michigan manifesto and the upcoming historic low total in the Iowa-Northwestern game, college football is currently at its peak. PFT is so committed to the bit he's planning on betting the over on a game that might not feature a single touchdown.

Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I'm betting the over on Northwestern vs Iowa's historic 29.5 total

The lowest over, under total. Yes. In the history of college football at Wrigley... This is 29 and a half, right? 29 and a half. It's Northwestern Iowa. I think I have to go to this game... I'll bet the over.

The game total was 17 points, well under the 29.5 line.

Ryan Whitney Joins the Show

Friend of the program Ryan Whitney stopped by to help the guys preview the NHL season and talk some puck. The conversation immediately turned to the Edmonton Oilers' disastrous start, but Whitney is staying the course despite his own public meltdowns on social media.

Loss
Nov 1, 2023
#9953
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The Edmonton Oilers will win the Stanley Cup

I picked the Edmonton Oilers [to win the cup]. The way the season starts, it's obviously not ideal... I pick the Edmonton Oilers.

The Oilers lost the Stanley Cup Final in 7 games to the Florida Panthers.

Whitney also gave his scouting report on Connor Bedard, noting that while the kid is a superstar, he still has a lot of mountain to climb if he wants to match the career of some NHL legends.

Void
Nov 1, 2023
#29177
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Phil Kessel has had a better career than Connor McDavid if they both retired today.

I guess Phil Kessel [if he retired today]. But McDavid was more dominant. But if you're looking at a career, I mean, he broke the Ironman streak and has three Stanley Cups and 400 or 500 goals. So Kessel.

Subjective comparison of two different types of greatness.

We touched on the Georgia Bulldogs, where Whitney is genuinely concerned about the Brock Bowers injury, mostly because he thinks Bowers might be the greatest tight end to ever lace them up.

Void
Nov 1, 2023
#9954
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Brock Bowers is better than Rob Gronkowski and Travis Kelce

I can't believe how good he, like I, I think it could be, he could be better than Kelsey and Gronk... that guy's insane.

Too early to definitively judge a pro career, but Bowers was a high first-round pick. This remains subjective.

Before letting him go, Whitney broke down his power rankings for the upcoming draft, identifying the next big thing in hockey who is currently tearing up the college ranks at just 17 years old.

Win
Nov 1, 2023
#29179
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Macklin Celebrini is going to be the first overall pick and an NHL superstar.

They have a kid named Macklin Celebrini. He's gonna go first... he turned 17 in June or July and he's dominating college hockey already... Macklin Celebrini, what an age... he's defensively very aware... NHL superstar.

Macklin Celebrini was indeed drafted first overall by the San Jose Sharks in the 2024 NHL Draft.

Hank is still trying to figure out how to get credit card points for his family vacations while the rest of the crew prepares for a baseball challenge that is almost certainly going to result in a blown-out labrum for PFT.

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More Takes

Loss
Nov 1, 2023·NBA
#9948
MaxMax

Tyrese Maxey is currently the best player in the NBA Eastern Conference

Tyrese Maxey is the best player in the Eastern Conference. Fact or fiction? ... hang the banner of the week. Hang, there's only been one week. If the MVP was given out today, he would win it.

Joel Embiid won MVP the prior year and was ahead of Maxey; Jayson Tatum and others remained superior. Maxey did win Most Improved Player.
Loss
Nov 1, 2023·Picks
#29174
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Diamondbacks will beat the Rangers 8-1 in Game 4 of the World Series with Tommy Pham hitting two home runs.

I think it's gonna be eight-one Diamondbacks. Whoa. I think [Tommy] Pham goes yard twice. Whoa. [Evan] Longoria has two hits.

The Rangers won Game 4 with a score of 11-7; Tommy Pham had one hit and zero home runs.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Oregon is currently the best team in the Pac-12 despite their loss to Washington

I do think Oregon, what they did in Utah on Saturday, like that doesn't happen to Utah. They bullied him. Oregon. It's weird because even though they lost to Washington, they look like they're the best team in that conference right now.

Washington beat Oregon for a second time in the Pac-12 Championship game, proving they were the superior team in that conference for 2023.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Dabo Swinney deserves at least one bad year given the high expectations he's fulfilled at Clemson.

Dabo came, they won more than 10 games seven years in a row, won two national titles. Bad year. I think he deserves at least one bad year.

This is a subjective opinion on how a coach should be treated by fans/media.
Win
Nov 1, 2023
#9952
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The San Jose Sharks might be one of the worst teams in modern NHL history

I think the Sharks are really gonna struggle to score goals. It could be one of the worst teams we've ever seen in modern day NHL.

The Sharks finished the 2023-24 season with a 19-54-9 record and 47 points, the worst in the league.
Void
Nov 1, 2023
#29176
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Hockey coaches are the second most important in sports, behind football but ahead of baseball and basketball.

Football's one... let's put hockey number two behind football... I would say baseball's in front of hockey—actually let's put hockey number two... Basketball's the last one.

This is an inherently subjective ranking of sports philosophy.
Loss
Nov 1, 2023
#29178
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The Buffalo Sabres are ending their 13-year playoff drought and I'm officially on the bandwagon.

I'm on the Buffalo Sabres bandwagon. I'd love to see them get in the playoffs this year. They actually have the longest playoff drought streak in pro sports right now... I think the [Sabres] might get in this year.

The Sabres finished 39-37-6 and missed the playoffs again in the 2023-24 season.

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