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Scott Van Pelt Part 1 08/22/16

Monday, August 22, 201615 takes

Olympic wrap up and what was our big takeaway from Rio. UFC 202 recap and an impromptu Mt Rushmore of baseball manager fighting styles. Mt Rushmore of Power Moves. Scott Van Pelt from ESPN joins the show in part 1 of his interview to discuss working at ESPN, Sportscenter, and the media world. Segments include Hurt or Injured, Olympic Update, Talking Soccer, Please Respect The Biz, and Uhhhh Hey JJ

Scott Van Pelt Part 1 on ESPN, Bill Simmons, and Rio Reflections

The Rio Olympics have officially come to a close, and while the world reflects on the spirit of competition, Big Cat and PFT Commenter are mostly focused on the inevitable decay of the infrastructure and the sheer grit of the French race walker who pooped his pants. There is a certain level of respect you have to give a man who leaves it all on the track, quite literally.

Void
Aug 22, 2016
#18024
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Pooping your pants from trying too hard makes an activity a sport

If you poop your pants from doing it too hard, it's a sport. I don't care what it is. That's my litmus test for does it qualify.

This is a subjective definition of sport designed for comedic effect.

While PFT Commenter was mesmerized by the pool changing colors like a giant petri dish, Big Cat was already looking ahead to the post-Olympic reality for Brazil.

Win
Aug 22, 2016
#22263
Big CatBig Cat

Rio's Olympic venues will be abandoned ruins with graffiti and skateboarders almost immediately

I'd say it's probably already dry. I'd probably I'd say it's probably already got graffiti on it and there's like skateboarders in it.

Most of the Rio Olympic venues fell into significant disrepair and abandonment within months of the games ending.

Beyond the gastrointestinal hurdles and emerald-colored diving wells, the guys grappled with the legacy of the athletes. They debated whether Usain Bolt could transition to the gridiron, a transition that Tony Dungy apparently thinks is a lock.

Void
Aug 22, 2016
#18028
Big CatBig Cat

Usain Bolt would be a scary NFL wide receiver

Tony Dungy actually did come out and said that Usain Bolt would be a scary wide receiver. So it's good to see that. Good to see someone else is thinking along our lines. Guys really fast. Put some pads on them.

This is a classic 'what-if' that never happened. Speed is only one part of being a receiver, and Bolt never attempted to play professional football.

They also took a hard look at the NBA stars in Rio, specifically Carmelo Anthony’s emotional gold medal finish. While some see a guy who can’t win in the NBA, PFT Commenter sees a man who is simply too authentic for the choreographed fun of his peers.

Void
Aug 22, 2016
#18027
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Carmelo Anthony is too cool for the Banana Boat crew

I think Carmelo is too cool for the banana boat. I think that LeBron James, Chris Paul, Dwayne Wade, this new kind of athlete, this new super team-creating kind of athlete, they're lame. They're not hard. Carmelo's hard.

While Carmelo did not join the banana boat vacation, the idea of him being 'too hard' is a subjective cultural characterization.

The Mothership Lands in Hartford

In a long-awaited crossover, Scott Van Pelt joined the show for the first of a two-part interview. Sitting in a rented office in Hartford because Big Cat isn't yet allowed to roam free in the ESPN cafeteria, SVP got surprisingly real about the state of sports media. He addressed the evolution of SportsCenter, noting that the days of long-form highlights for teams like the Twins are dead because everyone has already seen the box score on their phone ten times.

Win
Aug 22, 2016
#18033
Scott Van PeltScott Van Pelt

SportsCenter highlights of twins games are obsolete in the mobile era

If you just rolled tape from one of [Dan and Keith's] shows and watched it now, you'd say, man, that Twins highlight was pretty long. You just can't do a minute 30 of a Twins highlight that people have already seen on their phones.

Media consumption trends overwhelmingly show that traditional highlight shows have lost viewership to immediate social media clips.

SVP also provided a candid look at why so many people struggle after leaving Bristol. He cited a combination of audience laziness and the sheer power of the "Mothership" as a default destination for sports fans.

Win
Aug 22, 2016
#22266
Scott Van PeltScott Van Pelt

It is incredibly difficult for media personalities to leave ESPN and find the same level of success

There's a pretty strong track record that leaving, you know, it's hard to go out there and take on, as Dan Patrick labeled it long ago, the mothership and win. ... People are lazy, man. ... If you make me memorize a new number [on the cable box], I hate you a little bit more.

This has been a consistent theme in sports media, though some like Pat McAfee have eventually broken the mold (ironically by returning to/partnering with ESPN).

When the conversation turned to Bill Simmons and his struggles at HBO, SVP defended his former colleague by pointing out the massive gap between being a brilliant writer and a seasoned TV performer.

Win
Aug 22, 2016
#18035
Scott Van PeltScott Van Pelt

Bill Simmons struggled on TV because he is a writer competing against trained performers like John Oliver and Marc Maron

Mars [Marc Maron], the other guy they compare to him... you're a stand-up comic for that many years, you have balls the size of pumpkins because you talk for a living. ... He's a performer. ... Bill is a brilliant guy on a lot of fronts and TV is still a relatively new thing for him.

'Any Given Wednesday' was canceled after one season due to low ratings.

Mount Rushmore of Power Moves

To wrap up the first half of the Monday show, the guys took a break from the high-level media analysis to draft the Mount Rushmore of Power Moves. This is a category that covers everything from airplane etiquette to social dominance. Hank made a strong showing by advocating for the "transit sleeper," a move he recently mastered on a ferry from Nantucket.

Void
HankHank

Falling asleep on strangers during transit is a power move

Falling asleep on strangers is absolutely a power move. Big transit sleeper, yep.

Subjective determination of what constitutes a 'power move.'

Big Cat rounded out the list with a move that is equal parts confusing and assertive, proving that sometimes the best way to win a room is to leave everyone wondering what your intentions are.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Winking at men is a high-level power move

And then finally, winking at men. Yeah, winking's good. It's like winking when you introduce yourself to somebody. That's a sweet move.

Subjective.

Between the deep dive into the business of sports with SVP and the breakdown of UFC 202, it's clear that while the Olympics are over, the season of Grit is just beginning.

Just remember, if you aren't winking at a stranger today, you're probably falling behind.

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Loss
Aug 22, 2016
#18025
Big CatBig Cat

Rio's Olympic infrastructure will be well-maintained and beneficial for decades

The Olympics are over. Rio, I have no doubt in my mind all the buildings, all the goodwill, all of the tourist money is going to go into great hands. And they're going to be on the up and up for the rest of the century.

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The Rio Olympic venues famously fell into immediate disrepair and the city faced significant financial and social turmoil after the games.
Void
Aug 22, 2016
#18026
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The color-changing pool was the biggest story of the Rio Olympics

Silver gold medal of takeaways. Storylines of the Olympics goes to the color changing pool. Yeah, I just I want you know how they have the live cameras on the grizzly bears every spring up in Alaska. You can watch them fishing for salmon. I want a live cam 24 seven on the pool as it's changing colors.

Subjective opinion on what was the 'biggest' story, though athletes like Phelps and Bolt dominated headlines.
Loss
Aug 22, 2016
#22264
Big CatBig Cat

Jimmy Butler is a perfect fit for the Milwaukee Bucks

[Jimmy Butler is] getting ready to be the greatest, most apt Milwaukee buck of all time. Like there has never been a better fit.

Butler never played for the Bucks; he was traded to the Timberwolves, then 76ers, then Heat.
Win
Aug 22, 2016
#22265
Big CatBig Cat

UFC 202 was the best main event fight in a long time

UFC 202, I want to mention it quickly because as a sports fan, that was one of the best main event fights I've watched in a long time. It was one of the most hyped ones probably since Mayweather Pacquiao, but it was so, so good.

The fight is widely regarded as one of the best in UFC history.
Win
Aug 22, 2016
#22267
Scott Van PeltScott Van Pelt

LeBron James's post-Finals interview in 2016 was one of the most authentic athlete moments in years

LeBron after the finals was really cool because our show was the post-show, and it was him after an iconic thing that happened in sports. ... He was human and he was honest. ... memorable with a guy who's as big a deal as there is in sports after doing something that had never been done in sports before.

The interview is highly regarded as a key moment in the 2016 title narrative.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tom Brady is injury-prone because he spent 12 years on the injury report

Is Tom Brady injury-prone? That's what it sounds like to me. It sounds like he's a China doll. Yeah, been on the injury report more than any other player. Got bit by the injury bug.

While technically listed on the report more than most, Brady was famously durable, playing until age 45 with very few games missed due to injury.

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