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#PMT-2017-0127-15763
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell is gaslighting fans into thinking Thursday Night Football is a good product

Well, it's called gaslighting, Big Cat, and it's actually like a thing that works. So Goodell is gaslighting us, which is awesome. He's doing a really good job of it. He's saying, you all enjoyed watching Thursday Night Football. It was a great product. And then if he says enough, I'm like, holy shit. Thursday night football was awesome.

While Goodell publicly praised TNF, the public sentiment and ratings at the time often suggested the quality of games was lacking compared to Sunday/Monday slots.
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Big CatBig Cat

Jim Harbaugh's story about being hit by a mail truck as a kid is probably fake

Jim Harbaugh was Hit by a mail truck driver When he was 7 years old And he found the mail truck driver Nearly 50 years later In Iowa... This is a fake story. This is a fake story by Jim Harbaugh because this is... you can't come up with a story that's more Jim Harbaugh than this.

Harbaugh and the mail truck driver (Roger Moore) have both corroborated this story in multiple media outlets, including the driver himself giving interviews. While bizarre, it is documented as true.
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Take Slip·Jan 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0125-11610
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James' subtweet is the most passive-aggressive thing he has ever done

The big story that we have waiting for the Super Bowl week to start is LeBron with the most passive-aggressive tweet I think I've ever seen... He said, I'm not mad or upset at management... I just feel we still need to improve in order to repeat, dot, dot, dot, if that's what we want to do. That is the most ridiculous subtweet that LeBron has ever, it's not even a subtweet, it's a direct tweet. He didn't add anyone, but he's adding the management.

The take is subjective, but LeBron's career is famously defined by such 'LeGM' moments and passive-aggressive social media use.
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Take Slip·Jan 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0125-11611
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James is setting up a pre-planned excuse in case the Cavaliers lose the Finals

[LeBron is] also setting expectations. So, like, if they lose in the finals, like, hypothetically, if it's a 4-0 sweep, hypothetically speaking, that's definitely not me saying that's going to happen. He's got an excuse prepped right there.

LeBron's tweets did often serve as cover for the team's deficiencies, and PFT correctly identifies the narrative strategy.
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HankHank

Lacrosse will be a top-tier major sport within 10 to 15 years

Cool throne lacrosse. I might have been in two. I've been a little early. I said there's 30 years. It's looking more like 10 to 15... I mean, it's like the hottest thing. It's like number one thing on SportsCenter.

While lacrosse has grown, it remains a niche professional sport compared to the 'Big 4' in 2024. The 15-year window closes in 2032.
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Take Slip·Jan 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0125-11615
Ryan LochteRyan Lochte

Every professional swimmer pees in the pool

[Connor Dwyer] said he's peed in every pool he's been in. Are you the same? Oh, by all means... the good thing about us swimmers is we have the biggest toilet in the world.

Lochte is an elite insider; multiple other Olympians (like Michael Phelps) have confirmed this is standard practice.
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Take Slip·Jan 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0125-11617
Big CatBig Cat

Ben Roethlisberger is not actually retiring; he just enjoys the attention

Big Ben's not retiring. Come on... A little pre-prediction, though. Big Ben has now reached the point of his career where he's just going to Brett Favre for this every year. Like he'll end up playing for some weird. Big Ben's destiny is to like play one weird season for the Jaguars.

Roethlisberger continued to play for five more seasons, retiring only after the 2021 season. He never played for another team like the Jaguars/Cardinals, though.
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Big CatBig Cat

White cleats scientifically make you faster

Scientifically, white cleats do make you faster. That's actually just science. You just look a lot faster. You feel a lot faster. Look good, play good.

There is no physical scientific evidence for this, though there is a psychological 'look good, play good' factor.
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Take Slip·Jan 23, 2017
#PMT-2017-0123-9035
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL is trying to eliminate kickoffs by moving them up to the 30-yard line

Do you feel in the back of your mind that the NFL one day is going to just eliminate kickoffs entirely? Are you worried about that at all? ... They trying to right now. That's why they took it out of the Pro Bowl. So they're trying to get it out. That's why they moved the kick up to the 30 because kickers can kick. So they want them kicking out the end zone every time.

The NFL has significantly changed kickoff rules since 2017, including the 'Dynamic Kickoff' in 2024, effectively trying to preserve the play while reducing high-speed collisions, though they haven't eliminated it entirely.
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Big CatBig Cat

Bringing your girlfriend to watch a big game with you results in losing your Man Card

Bring your girlfriend to watch a big game with you. Yeah, that's probably a man card.

The concept of a 'Man Card' is fictional and the opinion is subjective.
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Take Slip·Jan 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0120-16326
HankHank

The Patriots are a better team specifically because of Dion Lewis

Actually, the real reason is Dion Lewis. They are 14-0 when [Lewis] plays. [Brady's] a system quarterback, in other words.

The Patriots did have an incredible winning streak when Dion Lewis was active on the roster during this era.
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Take Slip·Jan 20, 2017
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Matt Ryan is the new Joe Flacco and is entering 'clutch gene' territory

Matt Ryan is going to be the new Joe Flacco. Right now, the story on Matt Ryan is he doesn't have the clutch gene. If he wins this game, he might have the clutch gene. He's getting into the clutch gene territory.

Matt Ryan won the MVP in 2016 and led the Falcons to the Super Bowl, though the 'clutch' label was permanently damaged by the 28-3 collapse.
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Take Slip·Jan 20, 2017
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Dave PortnoyDave Portnoy

I would rather have two more years of Tom Brady than five years of Jimmy Garoppolo and two first-round picks

[I'd take] Brady. I think we're going to have both, but Brady in that situation. [Even over Garoppolo for five years and two first round picks].

Brady won two more Super Bowls with the Patriots (2016 and 2018 seasons) after this take, validating the choice to stick with him.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Patriots will select Christian McCaffrey with the 32nd pick in the NFL Draft

Christian McCaffrey, number 32 to the Patriots. Wow. Uhhh ya think? Him and Woodhead in the backfield together? Split backs. Bring back the old split back formation.

McCaffrey was drafted 8th overall by the Panthers, nowhere near the Patriots' pick.
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Take Slip·Jan 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0118-14857
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill Belichick intentionally messes up social media app names to mess with the media

This is the second time that Belichick has intentionally messed up two apps. I think that Belichick knows a lot more about social media than he's letting on... Belichick pretends to not know what Facebook is... he's just absolutely fucking with the media and just putting on this show like, oh, I don't know what any of this is. And meanwhile, he goes out behind the curtain. He's got five cell phones and he immediately checks all his players' accounts.

Belichick continued this 'bit' for years, consistently misnaming platforms like 'Instachat,' supporting the theory that it's a deliberate part of his persona.
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Take Slip·Jan 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0118-14859
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Rodgers is trying to 'cuck' Brett Favre's legacy

Uncoachable. He's now trying to cuck Brett Favre's legacy like a kid just running around back there. Brett Favre was the ultimate draw something up in the dirt. It's like the last thing that Brett Favre has. He was an old school gunslinger. Just go out there and I'll hit you. And now Aaron Rodgers is taking that from him.

Rodgers has often been compared to Favre in this regard, though he generally played with much higher efficiency and fewer turnovers, eventually surpassing most of Favre's franchise records.
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Take Slip·Jan 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0118-14862
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James pretends he doesn't care about the Warriors, but he cares deeply

LeBron said, no, we're not rivals. He basically just said, I don't want to talk about that. I don't care about the Warriors. They can do their thing. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure LeBron made them put up a big poster right outside their locker room when they went to Cleveland earlier in the year, like the block and all that stuff. So classic LeBron. He's just pretending like he doesn't care, even though he cares deeply.

LeBron's rivalry with the Warriors during the 2010s is widely considered one of the greatest in NBA history, confirming he likely cared significantly more than he admitted.
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Take Slip·Jan 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0118-14864
Big CatBig Cat

Carmelo Anthony's destiny is to be carried to a title by LeBron James

Melo's destiny is to have LeBron carry him to a title. That really is his destiny.

Carmelo Anthony eventually joined LeBron James on the Lakers in 2021-22 in an attempt to win a championship, though they were unsuccessful. He never won a title.
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Take Slip·Jan 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0118-14872
Shawne MerrimanShawne Merriman

Los Angeles is not ready to support two NFL teams

I don't think L.A. is ready for two football teams. They're still trying to get their feet on their own with the Rams, even though they didn't play well this last year... they don't show up until halftime.

This has been a persistent narrative, with the Chargers struggling to build a fan base in LA for years, often playing in stadiums filled with opposing fans.
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Take Slip·Jan 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0118-14874
Shawne MerrimanShawne Merriman

Tito Ortiz will beat Chael Sonnen in their Bellator 170 fight

I'm going with Tito. Only because it's his last one, and I just know how he feels about his legacy, and he doesn't want to go out and lose it. So by any means, he's going to do whatever he can to win this fight... I'm taking Tito at the end.

Tito Ortiz defeated Chael Sonnen via rear-naked choke in the first round on January 21, 2017.
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#PMT-2017-0118-14878
Big CatBig Cat

The contestants on The Bachelor who cried over the Backstreet Boys were faking it

I'm calling bullshit on this. If there's some girls, maybe some girls, like, 1994, 1995 born, they were, like, five years old when Backstreet Boys were big... I feel like that was a try-hard move to start crying for that because they probably don't remember them, right?

It's a common criticism of reality TV that reactions are staged, and his math regarding the age of the contestants versus the height of the boy band's fame is largely accurate.
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Take Slip·Jan 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0116-2544
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tony Romo would have won the Divisional game for the Cowboys against the Packers

Tony Romo probably would have won that game in Dallas. Dak [Prescott] took a little too long to get going. Dak is better than Tony, but he's exactly better enough that the Cowboys would have scored later on in the game to tie it up. So Dak scored too soon. He was too efficient. Romo would have tied it, sent it to overtime.

The Cowboys lost 34-31 after Rodgers drove down the field with 35 seconds left. It is inherently subjective whether Romo would have fared better or worse.
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Take Slip·Jan 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0116-2546
Big CatBig Cat

I am done with Brock Osweiler forever

I am seriously, though. I'm done with Brock Osweiler. I'm done with him forever. He's ruined football games for me, multiple football games for me this year. Stop trying to make Brock Osweiler happen.

Osweiler was traded to the Browns shortly after and never regained a starting role of significance, essentially 'ending' as a franchise prospect.
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Take Slip·Jan 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0116-2548
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Tony Romo will try to get released by the Cowboys rather than traded

I expect that Tony Romo is going to try to get himself released... You guys decided to move on. I want to stay. I want to compete for the starting job. You won't let me. Why do you insist on trading me to another team? Now, how the Cowboys respond to that is going to be the big question because Jerry Jones has an asset under contract... I think he's going to try to get released.

Romo was released by the Cowboys in April 2017 after it became clear they wouldn't find a suitable trade partner and he chose retirement/broadcasting.
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Take Slip·Jan 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0116-2549
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Aaron Rodgers and the Packers have underachieved over the last six years

What we've seen the last eight games out of Aaron Rodgers makes me wonder, why in the hell haven't we seen that the last six years? Why are they continuously wanting out in the playoffs? Why do they continue to underachieve? Aaron Rodgers is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the sport of football. How does he not already have more than one Super Bowl win?

This is a common critique of the Rodgers era in Green Bay that persists to this day.
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Take Slip·Jan 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0116-2550
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Devin Hester is a Hall of Famer and will eventually get in

I think he is. Well, if any kicker or punter is worthy of getting in, Devin Hester is worthy of getting in, and I think he eventually will. Now, that doesn't mean he gets in on the first try, but I think eventually he's going to get in. You've got to find a spot for a guy who was transcendent in what he did in the return game.

Devin Hester was officially elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2024.
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Take Slip·Jan 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0116-2552
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Bears will try to trade Jay Cutler this offseason

He's got a very tradable contract, $12.5 million. I think the Bears will try to trade him. Depends on how this coaching deal shakes out. If Kyle Shanahan ends up the head coach somewhere, I could see him being potentially interested in Cutler.

The Bears were unable to trade Cutler and ultimately released him in March 2017. He briefly retired before joining the Dolphins.
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Take Slip·Jan 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0116-2553
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Rex Ryan will not get another chance as an NFL head coach

I don't think he will. How about at the college level? Wouldn't he be a very good college coach? I mean, could you see him recruit the hell out of guys? I think he's going to end up in TV, though. I'm not sure he's going to be as good as they think he's going to be, but I think he's going to end up in TV.

Rex Ryan never held another head coaching job in the NFL after being fired by Buffalo in 2016. He became a staple on ESPN.
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Take Slip·Jan 16, 2017
#PMT-2017-0116-2554
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Jeff Fisher is finished as an NFL head coach but could bamboozle another owner into an interview

Guy's very connected at the league level. He's got good friends in the league office. He's a made man. He knows how to work the media. I think at some point he'll find a way where he at least gets an interview. And if he gets an interview with one of these guys... he could bamboozle someone into hiring him.

Jeff Fisher never coached in the NFL again after 2016.
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Take Slip·Jan 13, 2017
#PMT-2017-0113-10110
Big CatBig Cat

San Diego didn't deserve to have a football team because the weather is too nice there

Fuck you, San Diego. You're a great city, and you didn't deserve to have a football team because it's so nice outside during the fall and the winter time. You know what? You can find a million other things to do.

Subjective opinion about a city's 'deservingness' of a franchise based on weather.
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Take Slip·Jan 13, 2017
#PMT-2017-0113-10126
Lenny DykstraLenny Dykstra

I would not be buying any stocks right now and would put money into real estate instead

I wouldn't be buying any stock right now. [Put money in] Real estate. Hookers? ... That's a dead end road, dude. I'm over a million in those places. There's no return on anything.

The S&P 500 rose nearly 20% in 2017, making 'not buying stocks' poor advice in hindsight.
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Take Slip·Jan 13, 2017
#PMT-2017-0113-10128
Tito OrtizTito Ortiz

Conor McGregor has zero chance of beating Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match

Floyd wants an easy $100 million check. ... Conor McGregor versus Floyd Mayweather, I think it's going to happen. ... [Conor has] 1,000% no chance at all. Floyd wouldn't last 30 seconds [in MMA]... Floyd will last a minute because he'd run for 30 seconds.

The fight occurred in August 2017, and Mayweather won by TKO in the 10th round.
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Take Slip·Jan 13, 2017·Grumors
#PMT-2017-0113-10130
Big CatBig Cat

Jim Irsay forgets he owns the Colts and is just doing Twitter giveaways all day

I don't think he is [going to fire anyone]. I think he just forgot he owned the Colts. He's just on Twitter all day. He's just been doing Twitter giveaways every day. He's like, 'hey, Jim, you still own this team? You get to make the decisions.'

OpinionFootballMediumSarcastic
Jim Irsay did eventually fire Ryan Grigson in January 2017, shortly after this episode aired.
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Take Slip·Jan 11, 2017
#PMT-2017-0111-7874
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Lane Kiffin was happy to see Alabama lose the National Championship

The second you move on from [a relationship], there's a small part of you that will always love to see bad things happen to that person... And Lane Kiffin is, by all accounts, a much bigger dick than normal people. So you have to believe that he was popping bottles.

While subjective, Kiffin's public persona and subsequent 'trolling' of Saban/Alabama over the years supports the spirit of this take.
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Big CatBig Cat

Yahoo's name change to Altaba is a brilliant way to hide from the public eye

I have Yahoo on my cool throne because the best way to secretly get out of the public eye is just have a vaguely foreign sounding company by you and change your name. And just claim that your entire company was satire.

The Altaba name change did occur following the Verizon acquisition of Yahoo's core assets, but it was a holding company for Alibaba shares, not a PR stunt to claim the business was satire.
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Take Slip·Jan 11, 2017
#PMT-2017-0111-7881
Smylie KaufmanSmylie Kaufman

Tiger Woods is officially back

I think he's back. Actually, being that I practiced with him and play with him before and before the Ryder Cup and leading up to the Bahamas, he kept looking better and better.

Tiger would win the Masters in 2019, which proved he was indeed 'back' in a major way, though he faced many health setbacks between 2017 and 2019.
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Take Slip·Jan 11, 2017·PR 101
#PMT-2017-0111-7886
Big CatBig Cat

Derrick Rose should use being hacked as an excuse for going missing

He didn't tweet anything. He didn't do anything wrong on the internet. So then just say you got hacked. My life got hacked.

Rose did not use this excuse; he later cited a family matter.
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Take Slip·Jan 9, 2017
#PMT-2017-0109-15396
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

I would bet against Michigan making the College Football Playoff in the near future

I wouldn't lock that down. I mean, it's possible, but I'm not going to be one of these, well, anything's possible. Well, not really. I would probably bet against Michigan [making the final four].

Michigan did not make the College Football Playoff until 2021, proving Finebaum correct for several 'near future' seasons.
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Take Slip·Jan 9, 2017·Picks
#PMT-2017-0109-15404
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Clemson will win the National Championship against Alabama

Clemson.

Clemson won the game 35-31.
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Take Slip·Jan 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0106-1742
Big CatBig Cat

The Miami Dolphins' teal and aqua uniforms do not belong in the NFL playoffs

I'm just going to say it, right? The Dolphins' uniforms are not playoff uniforms. They aren't. That's a hot take, I know, but it's the truth. Teal and that aqua and all that shit doesn't belong in the playoffs.

Uniform suitability is purely subjective.
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Take Slip·Jan 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0106-1746
Mark TitusMark Titus

Coach K gave Jeff Capel the Duke team as a tryout to become the future head coach

Um, that K, this whole Capel thing is a tryout for Capel because K wants Capel to get the job after he leaves. So this is, this is not actually like a, his back doesn't hurt. He's just saying, here you go, Capel. I'm going to give you the most talented team, maybe in college basketball history... prove to everyone that you're a great coach. And then that way, when I retire, you can be like, 'Hey, remember that time that I took 12 McDonald's All-Americans to a 4-0 record?'

Jeff Capel did not become the successor; he left for Pittsburgh in 2018. Jon Scheyer was eventually named the successor in 2021.
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Take Slip·Jan 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0106-1748
Mark TitusMark Titus

LeBron James is the perfect laboratory-engineered basketball player, more so than Jordan

In all seriousness, I think LeBron is... If you had to clone a guy and put five of him on the floor, he's clearly the guy that you would want. If you're making a basketball player in a laboratory from the ground up, you build LeBron James.

This is a hypothetical debate about athletic perfection.
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Take Slip·Jan 4, 2017
#PMT-2017-0104-6514
HankHank

Tom Brady should be the NFL MVP despite only playing 12 games

If Tom Brady isn't the MVP, it's just further showing [the system is corrupt]... He still had better stats than him. Tom Brady's stats are still better than the other quarterbacks in contention stats. That's the point.

Matt Ryan won the 2016 NFL MVP. Brady finished second.
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Take Slip·Jan 4, 2017
#PMT-2017-0104-6517
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Greenberg's take that the College Football Playoff is better than March Madness is ridiculous

Did anyone tell Greeny that he doesn't know about either of these playoffs because he didn't play sports? ... I mean, it's the most ridiculous statement.

This is subjective, but the general sports consensus overwhelmingly favors March Madness for its excitement and fairness in crowning a champion on the court.
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Take Slip·Jan 4, 2017
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Michael RapaportMichael Rapaport

The Starters on NBA TV are sports hipsters

I don't like to shit on other people's quality of their work. But they have a show, and it's actually good. It's very stat-oriented... but like the Starters on the NBA network. They are hipsters. They're sports hipsters.

This is a subjective label based on Rapaport's definition of 'hipster'.
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Big CatBig Cat

Kirk Cousins will get a long-term contract because he looks the part of a quarterback

Do you know what Kirk has going for him? He looks the part. That's really what it is... That's why Matt Barkley is still in the league. That's why Jimmy Clausen is—throw them in a pair of shorts... they look good.

Kirk Cousins eventually received multiple massive guaranteed contracts, including a 3-year, $84M deal from the Vikings in 2018.
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Take Slip·Jan 3, 2017
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The AFC has been bad for forever

People don't talk about how bad the AFC has been like forever. The Patriots have basically just had to show up every Sunday for the last 12 years, and they'll make it into one every three Super Bowls.

Subjective conference comparison, though the Patriots' dominance in that era is a historical fact.
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Take Slip·Jan 3, 2017
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Lawrence TynesLawrence Tynes

I will take Eli Manning over any other quarterback in the playoffs

Eli [Manning] just lets it go, man. He is not afraid in the playoffs, and I think that's something that serves him well. I'll take Eli over any of them.

Eli Manning lost his only playoff game that year to Green Bay, though his overall playoff history is storied.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Wearing a jumpsuit every day in January will make the month great again

Time to make January great again, and the best way to do that is to wear jumpsuits every day. Every day in January. That's my promise to you.

A subjective lifestyle promise/prediction.
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Take Slip·Dec 30, 2016
#PMT-2016-1230-9933
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Pardon My Take is responsible for making punting cool again

Did we bring punting back? Yeah, we made punting cool again. I've seen it everywhere since Punt Week. Ooh, punters this, punters that. These punters, they're so cool.

The show did popularize punters like Marquette King and Pat McAfee during this era, though 'making punting cool' is subjective.
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