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Friday, January 27, 201715 takes

On today's show, PFT Commenter and Big Cat talk about Big Cat's RV trip down to the Super Bowl ( - ) and Coach K's decision to not allow Duke basketball players to wear any Duke logos until they straighten their act up ( - ). They debate Trump's Bernhard Langer voting story ( - ). The guys are joined by Michael Smith and Jemele Hill from ESPN to talk about their new Sportscenter, and their plans to include the underrepresented white male sports fan in their show ( - ), Segments include "hurt or injured" for the basketball player who got his eye taken out, "Man card" for Tom Brady's 9-year old son, "Protect the shield" from Roger Goodell, and Jimbos.

Jemele Hill and Michael Smith on the New SportsCenter and Kentucky Fans

Big Cat and Hank are currently recording from a listener's kitchen in Nashville, narrowly avoiding carbon monoxide poisoning in the RV on their way to Houston. The Super Bowl hype is building, but the focus remains on the host city and whether or not they actually deserve a ring. Big Cat isn't exactly buying the hype around the Falcons' home turf.

Void
Jan 27, 2017
#21274
Big CatBig Cat

Atlanta is a bad sports town

Atlanta's getting dragged as we say on the internet. Everyone knows it, it's a bad sports town. It's a good sex town, but it's a bad, bad sports town. I feel like everyone's talking about how Atlanta doesn't really deserve a championship because they're a bad sports town.

This is a subjective assessment of a city's sports culture.

Before getting to the guests, the guys break down Coach K's latest masterclass in drama. While rehabbing his back, he’s apparently found the strength to ban his players from wearing Duke logos or using the locker room. It’s classic Coach K: cucking his interim coach Jeff Capel while making sure the media knows he's still the one pulling the strings. Meanwhile, Rick Pitino is trying a bold new strategy to get leniency from the NCAA regarding his program's scandals.

Win
Jan 27, 2017
#21275
Big CatBig Cat

Rick Pitino's NCAA defense that recruits didn't like the prostitutes is absurd

He's pleading that a lot of the recruits didn't even like the prostitutes they hired. It says at least one prospect reported that this experience resulted in his disliking the university. That guy is a fucking weirdo. Rick Pitino actually got me a stripper with 36 D's so I really didn't even want to commit to Louisville.

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The defense did not ultimately save Pitino from punishment; he was fired later that year after further scandals.

Jemele Hill and Michael Smith join the show to talk about their upcoming move to the 6 PM SportsCenter slot. They aren't planning on doing a traditional highlight show because, as they point out, everyone has already seen the clips on their phones by the time dinner rolls around.

Win
Jan 27, 2017
#15757
Michael SmithMichael Smith

The new 6 PM SportsCenter will be 90% conversation and only 10% traditional highlights

We have producers who enjoy and appreciate what we do... In fact, we had to give it a percentage. The six is going to be 85% to 90% of what you've seen on His and Hers and 10% some SportsCenter. And that 10% is going to feel like His and Hers. It's just going to be something that SportsCenter would have done anyway.

The SC6 era was widely characterized by the shift toward conversational, personality-based segments, though the format eventually reverted after their departure.

The conversation turns to some of Jemele’s most famous past takes, including her legendary comparison between John Calipari and a certain cult leader. She stood by the logic that winning cures everything in Lexington.

Void
Jan 27, 2017
#15758
Jemele HillJemele Hill

Kentucky basketball fans wouldn't care if Charles Manson were their coach as long as he won titles

I was like, look, let's be real about what [John Calipari's] job is, is to win basketball games and compete for national titles. And I was like, given how the Kentucky fan base is so rabid, they wouldn't care if Charles Manson was their coach as long as he won a title.

This is a subjective assessment of fan psychology and a rhetorical hyperbole.

PFT tries to find common ground by explaining how he and Big Cat are actually underrepresented minorities in the current sports media landscape. He even offered a scientific breakdown of why the guys should be considered "people of colors" based on the light spectrum.

Push
Jan 27, 2017
#21276
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

White people are technically 'people of colors' because white is a combination of all colors

White is a combination of all the colors. So we are people of colors. We're people of colors. Why y'all always got to have advantages? More privilege. There you go. You got colors.

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In additive color theory (light), white is the combination of all colors; however, the social term 'people of color' is not a scientific classification of light.

The interview wraps up with a quick-fire round of food and music takes that nearly tore the room apart. While Michael Smith is a Waffle House defender, Big Cat remains a staunch hater of the establishment.

Void
Jan 27, 2017
#15759
Big CatBig Cat

Waffle House is garbage

I think Waffle House is garbage. It's just people go there when they're drunk, and they're like, man, Waffle House is really good.

This is entirely a matter of personal taste.
Void
Jan 27, 2017
#21277
Jemele HillJemele Hill

The song 'Bad and Boujee' is overrated

That's another trash opinion, overrated movie... Speaking of bougie, she said 'Bad and Boujee' is overrated. It is. It's overrated. Just because Donald Glover thinks it's hot, all of a sudden it's become the song of a generation. Like, no.

Subjective opinion on music popularity.

In the segments, the guys look at the crumbling Chicago Bulls locker room. With Rajon Rondo taking his grievances to Instagram to praise his "real vets" from the Boston days, PFT thinks it’s only a matter of time before a certain Laker legend makes his comeback.

Loss
Jan 27, 2017
#15762
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kobe Bryant will return to play for an NBA team this season

It also brings back one of my favorite segments that we haven't done in a while. And that's which team is Kobe Bryant going to play for this year? So right now, I think the Bulls, they jumped to the top of the list. Kobe to the Bulls. Let's get that topic swirling out there. If not the Bulls, then you got to think about maybe the Knicks, too. We all know that Kobe's going to play this year.

Kobe Bryant retired in 2016 and never played another professional basketball game.

Finally, for Kings Stay Kings, the guys marvel at Jim Harbaugh’s latest folk tale. Harbaugh claimed he tracked down a mail truck driver who hit him when he was seven years old just to share a glass of milk with him fifty years later. It’s so perfectly Harbaugh that Big Cat is calling foul.

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Jim Harbaugh's story about being hit by a mail truck as a kid is probably fake

Jim Harbaugh was Hit by a mail truck driver When he was 7 years old And he found the mail truck driver Nearly 50 years later In Iowa... This is a fake story. This is a fake story by Jim Harbaugh because this is... you can't come up with a story that's more Jim Harbaugh than this.

Harbaugh and the mail truck driver (Roger Moore) have both corroborated this story in multiple media outlets, including the driver himself giving interviews. While bizarre, it is documented as true.

If you see a man in a Looney Tunes jacket wandering through Nashville, please point him toward the nearest RV with working ventilation.

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Loss
Jan 27, 2017
#15756
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Winning a Masters or Daytona 500 should automatically grant you a green card and the right to vote

Langer's not even allowed to vote because he's a German national... But I think if you win a Masters, that's so American that if you have a green jacket, you should be allowed to vote. I don't care what country you're from. I want you to have a say in who our next leader is. A green jacket equals a green card. Absolutely. Or if you win a Daytona 500, I don't care what continent you're from. You're an American now.

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The US government does not grant citizenship based on winning major sports tournaments.
Void
Jan 27, 2017
#15760
Jemele HillJemele Hill

The movie Scarface is overrated

Another trash opinion, overrated movie. It wasn't a box office flop. It was. She doesn't like Scarface.

This is a subjective cinematic opinion.
Void
Jan 27, 2017
#15761
Michael SmithMichael Smith

Matt Ryan has been underappreciated for a long time

I do think Matt Ryan has been underappreciated. I thought this was a serious sports part of the podcast... No, I think Matt Ryan's underappreciated, has long been underappreciated. So I'm rooting for him because I want to see him get a bite of this apple.

Matt Ryan was the MVP of the 2016 season. Whether he is 'underappreciated' is subjective, but his statistics support him being an elite performer at the time.
Win
Jan 27, 2017
#21278
Big CatBig Cat

The 'Banana Boat' crew is way too old to win a championship together on LeBron James's back

I'm so excited for the moment when the Banana Boat crew gets together and they try to win a championship on LeBron's back and then they realize, whoops, we're all like way too old. It's going to be like the movie Space Cowboys.

When LeBron and Carmelo finally teamed up on the 2021-22 Lakers, they missed the playoffs entirely, proving they were indeed too old to win together.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell is gaslighting fans into thinking Thursday Night Football is a good product

Well, it's called gaslighting, Big Cat, and it's actually like a thing that works. So Goodell is gaslighting us, which is awesome. He's doing a really good job of it. He's saying, you all enjoyed watching Thursday Night Football. It was a great product. And then if he says enough, I'm like, holy shit. Thursday night football was awesome.

While Goodell publicly praised TNF, the public sentiment and ratings at the time often suggested the quality of games was lacking compared to Sunday/Monday slots.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Losing an eye is actually a performance-enhancing drug for basketball players

I'm going to go with hurt, not injured on this one. So if you lose an eye, you don't have to worry about depth perception. It's like when you're shooting a rifle, you close one eye... Losing an eye is a performance-enhancing drug.

Losing an eye severely inhibits depth perception, which is critical for basketball shooting and movement.

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