Skip to content
PMTPMT DB

Paul Finebaum

Monday, January 9, 201717 takes

Fastest 2 minutes for NFL Wild Card Weekend ( - ). Recap of the weekend of blowouts ( - ). Who's Back of the Week ( - ). Football Guy Of The Week ( - ). ESPN and Sirius Radio Host Paul Finebaum joins the show to talk about the National Championship, what went wrong with Lane Kiffin, his disgust for Michigan, and a Headline Grabber ( - ). Segments include Hurt or Injured, Just Chill out Man, Bad Visual, Bad Radio, Trouble in Paradise, Spinzone, and that's enough Internet for today.

Paul Finebaum on Saban's Mercedes, Kiffin's Exit, and Michigan Elitism

Wild Card Weekend delivered a series of blowouts that left most of the football world bored, but Big Cat and PFT Commenter found plenty to sift through. Between the Texans dismantling a Derek Carr-less Raiders team and the Seahawks continuing their home dominance, the biggest takeaway was the sheer lack of competitive balance. PFT noted that for those who claim the Seahawks have some secret sauce, it might actually just be their mastery of the rulebook.

Void
Jan 9, 2017
#26807
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Seattle Seahawks only win because they know the rule book better and 'cheat' more than everyone else

Did you notice the Seattle Cheahawks were back to their old cheating ways? ...They just cheat a lot. That's all they do. ...By knowing the rule book better than everybody else.

The Seahawks were known for their physical play and edge-pushing under Pete Carroll, though they weren't officially found guilty of 'cheating' beyond standard penalties.

The Dolphins-Steelers game provided a scary moment for Matt Moore, but the real medical marvel remains Ben Roethlisberger. Big Ben finished the game in a walking boot despite not knowing when he actually got hurt, which is the most Big Ben move possible. PFT has a theory that these constant knocks actually make the Steelers' quarterback more effective by clearing out the clutter in his head.

Void
Jan 9, 2017
#15385
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ben Roethlisberger gets smarter when he is concussed because it shuts off his dumb thoughts

I think Roethlisberger gets smarter when he gets concussed. ...More instinctual. Right, his head gets out of his own way. Right, he's just like a big, dumb animal. All of his terrible thoughts are no longer functioning in his head, so he's able to operate like a normal human being.

This is a satirical comment on Roethlisberger's intelligence and playstyle.

The Mouth of the South Speaks

Paul Finebaum joined the show to preview the National Championship game, and he didn't hold back on the chaos surrounding Alabama's coaching staff. With Lane Kiffin being shown the door right before the biggest game of the year, Finebaum characterized the move not as a mutual parting, but as a necessary purging of a "child" who had checked out on the program.

Void
Jan 9, 2017
#15388
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

Lane Kiffin is a 'child' and a 'loser' who air-mailed the national semifinal

Lane Kiffin is a child. And Nick Saban tried to nurture him and be a father figure. And in the end, he punched Saban in the mouth on the way out... I think it was the fact that Lane Kiffin, and this is hard to imagine, this statement I'm about to make, literally air-mailed in the national semifinal in college football. It's like he didn't bother... I just think he's a loser.

Calling someone a 'loser' or 'child' is subjective, but Kiffin's successful subsequent career at FAU and Ole Miss suggests the 'loser' label didn't stick professionally.

Finebaum believes the Kiffin brand is currently at an all-time low in the eyes of serious athletic directors. While he’s heading to FAU, the road back to a major program looks nearly impossible according to the SEC's most prominent voice.

Loss
Jan 9, 2017
#15391
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

Lane Kiffin is toxic and will never get hired by another school that matters

I argued in favor of Kiffin for a long time. I really liked him. But in being down at the national championship and being with all the people that matter in college athletics, he's even more toxic today than he was a year ago because of this incident. I don't think anyone else will hire him. He would have to upset somebody of epic proportion to get on a radar screen of a school that really mattered.

Lane Kiffin was hired by Ole Miss (a school that 'matters') in 2020 and has since become one of the most successful coaches in their history.

When the conversation shifted to the actual matchup against Clemson, Finebaum was steady in his conviction. He isn't worried about being called a homer for backing the Tide because, at this point, betting against Nick Saban is just bad business.

Win
Jan 9, 2017
#15403
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

Picking Alabama to win every game isn't being a homer, it's just being smart

The reason I like Alabama, and don't laugh, I've picked Alabama in every single game since the Iron Bowl in 2010... And that doesn't make me a homer. It just makes me smart. Because you guys know how many times Alabama has won since 2011.

Alabama had a .900+ winning percentage during this period, making 'always pick Alabama' a statistically sound strategy.

Elitism and Under-the-Table Deals

One of the highlights of the interview was Finebaum’s absolute disdain for the University of Michigan. While Jim Harbaugh has certainly brought life back to Ann Arbor, Finebaum finds the fan base's self-importance to be completely out of touch with their actual trophy case.

Void
Jan 9, 2017
#15395
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

Michigan fans are the most arrogant and elitist fan base in college football

It's Michigan. But Michigan, first of all, it's a good school. But it's not Harvard. They think they are not. Michigan fans, Michigan graduates are just the most arrogant, elitist... The fans talk like it's Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, and Caltech wrapped into one. It's not. It's a good school that's won a half a national championship in 60 years.

The behavior of a fan base is inherently subjective, but Finebaum's take is a very common one in the SEC media world.

He isn't buying the hype that a playoff berth is inevitable for the Wolverines, either.

Win
Jan 9, 2017
#15396
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

I would bet against Michigan making the College Football Playoff in the near future

I wouldn't lock that down. I mean, it's possible, but I'm not going to be one of these, well, anything's possible. Well, not really. I would probably bet against Michigan [making the final four].

Michigan did not make the College Football Playoff until 2021, proving Finebaum correct for several 'near future' seasons.

Big Cat and PFT also pressed Finebaum on the legendary "bag man" rumors of the SEC. While Finebaum wouldn't explicitly confirm players are getting cash, he did point out that Nick Saban's business interests might make it very easy for a top recruit to find themselves behind the wheel of a luxury vehicle.

Win
Jan 9, 2017
#26811
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

Nick Saban owns Mercedes dealerships in Alabama and Tennessee

[Saban] does own two Mercedes dealerships... one in Birmingham and... he owns one in Nashville. He's a part owner of them. I don't mean to say he's a total silent owner... it's public.

It is a matter of public record that Nick Saban is a co-owner of several 'Mercedes-Benz of Birmingham' and other dealerships.

The Boat Party and Bad Radio

The Giants' wide receivers took a lot of heat this weekend for their pre-playoff trip to Miami. Between Odell Beckham Jr. dropping passes in the cold and the general lack of life jackets on the vessel, Big Cat reminded everyone of the golden rule for NFL vacations.

Win
Jan 9, 2017·Bad Visual
#15401
Big CatBig Cat

If you are going on a boat party before a playoff game, you better win that game

This is a classic if you're going to go on a boat party. It's the old Tony Romo with Jessica Simpson and Cabo rule. If you're going to go hang out before a playoff game, you better win that fucking playoff game.

The Giants lost the game and the 'boat trip' became a legendary story of poor preparation in NFL lore.

The episode wrapped up with a look at the "Year of Matt" officially coming to an end, as every quarterback with that name was bounced from the playoffs. From Matt Moore to Matthew Stafford, it was a rough forty-eight hours for the Matts of the world.

Loss
Jan 9, 2017
#26808
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

2017 is not the 'Year of Matt' after every quarterback named Matt lost in the Wild Card round

Wait, so every Matt lost this weekend, huh? ...Not the year of Matt. Tough weekend for Matt.

Matt Ryan actually won the MVP and went to the Super Bowl this year, so it was actually a very good year for one specific Matt.

Hopefully, the National Championship provides more drama than a weekend of NFL blowouts and boat pictures.

nflcollege-footballalabamalane-kiffinnick-sabandetroit-lionsgreen-bay-packers

More Takes

Void
Jan 9, 2017·Who's Back
#26809
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Nick Saban probably hasn't been to a dentist in 30 years and just deals with the pain

Nick Saban, he hasn't been to a dentist in 30 years. And he's had cavity pain for all 30 years. ...He just deals with it. He's like, my mouth hurts. ...Day in, day out. That's just what happens.

This is a satirical characterization of Saban's toughness and focus.
Void
Jan 9, 2017·Who's Back
#15386
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Masters' theme music is the instant cure for insomnia

It's also just good for dads out there to have, instead of having to rely on Ambien or something to go to sleep, if a dad turns on the Masters music, he's going to fall asleep within five minutes. Best nap of the year. Instant cure for insomniacs.

While subjective, the 'Masters Nap' is a widely recognized cultural trope among sports fans.
Win
Jan 9, 2017
#26810
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

Nick Saban seriously considered taking the Texas head coaching job

I know he seriously considered going to Texas. I reported in a book that I did... that a group of Texas supporters floated a hundred million dollar offer to him. ...I think he listened.

While Saban never confirmed he was close to leaving, multiple reputable sources besides Finebaum have corroborated that serious talks occurred.
Void
Jan 9, 2017
#15398
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

Brian Kelly is one of the biggest jokes in college football

I think Brian Kelly is one of the biggest jokes in college football. I really do. I think Charlie Weis was better than Brian Kelly. He was more hilarious. I don't totally disagree. No, you're right about that. I mean, he was expensive from a food standpoint. But I think Notre Dame can afford a couple of extra buffets, but Brian Kelly, I mean, he really... anyone's cooler than Brian Kelly.

Subjective opinion. Brian Kelly's subsequent success at Notre Dame (making the CFP) and move to LSU makes the 'joke' label harder to sustain objectively.
Loss
Jan 9, 2017
#15400
Paul FinebaumPaul Finebaum

Alabama could beat the Cleveland Browns

I think they could, and every time I say that, these purists get crazy. And Danny Sheridan said the line would be 27, but I really think by the end of the season they could, yeah. I'm with Alabama over the Browns.

While it can't be tested, NFL teams (composed entirely of pros) are universally expected to dominate even the best college teams (composed of ~20% future pros).
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Stay Woke: Miko Grimes doesn't exist and is actually a schizophrenic alter ego of Brent Grimes

I've got to kind of a stay woke. I don't think that Miko Grimes is a person. I don't think she exists. ...I think maybe he's schizophrenic. He's got an alternate personality, and he tweets from her perspective. He gets to say all the stuff that he wants to say about his employer.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
Miko Grimes is very much a real person who has appeared in person many times.
Loss
Jan 9, 2017·Picks
#26812
Big CatBig Cat

Alabama will win and cover the -6.5 spread against Clemson in the National Championship

Six and a half is the spread. I'm going with Paul. Going Alabama. [PFT]: Clemson. [Big Cat]: I will take Alabama.

Clemson won the game 35-31, so Alabama neither won nor covered.

PMTDB Comments

This generates your username. Same passphrase = same name. Make it unique and memorable!

Search

Search takes, episodes, and speakers