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Take Slip·Sep 29, 2017
#PMT-2017-0929-15928
Mark TitusMark Titus

Duke is dirty but Mike Krzyzewski is too powerful to be caught

Duke, so here's my fear with Duke. Duke is dirty as hell... Krzyzewski is such a godfather and has this figured out so well. Like, I think it's impossible to get to him. And I'm sort of worried it's impossible they'll ever get to Cal, too.

Duke and Coach K were never formally indicted or penalized as part of the FBI investigation, supporting Titus's theory of their insulation.
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Take Slip·Sep 29, 2017
#PMT-2017-0929-15930
Matt JonesMatt Jones

Kentucky fans will eventually miss hating Rick Pitino

I think Kentucky fans are going to miss Rick Pitino. Hating Rick Pitino was awesome. He was the perfect villain. And I actually think I'm going to miss him.

Subjective fan sentiment.
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#PMT-2017-0929-15931
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kirk Cousins respects the media biz to get them on his side against Dan Snyder

All-time biz respecter move by Kirk here. He's basically got flashcards for the reporters... He is doing it, I would expect, to get the media on his side. So he's like, all right, if I get the media on my side, then I'll basically be able to strong arm Dan Snyder.

Subjective interpretation of motives, though Cousins did eventually leave Washington for a massive fully guaranteed contract in Minnesota, arguably winning his standoff with management.
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#PMT-2017-0929-15932
Big CatBig Cat

LA is a bad football city because they don't know who Boltman is

Seriously, this is a perfect example of how L.A. is just, you can't have a football team in L.A. How do you not know Boltman? He's fucking Boltman. Like, it's pretty clear that it's Boltman. And you can't ask Boltman to take off his helmet.

Subjective opinion on city culture. The Chargers still struggle for a home-field advantage in LA years later.
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#PMT-2017-0927-8267
Big CatBig Cat

Bruce Arians is on the hot seat because he is losing his mind and making terrible challenges

Bruce Arians is officially actually on the hot seat because I don't think he has all his marbles... That challenge though, everyone was saying how bad it was, but it we correctly identified it as the football guy who gets so frustrated he just challenges a random play he knows he's gonna lose.

Arians retired at the end of the 2017 season (initially), so he was technically on his way out, though he later won a Super Bowl with Tampa.
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#PMT-2017-0927-8268
HankHank

Khloe Kardashian lied about being pregnant just because she was jealous of Kylie's announcement

Khloe is super, super old and has been trying to get pregnant for a long time. I think she was so mad that Kylie announced she got pregnant, she just said she went too.

Khloe Kardashian was indeed pregnant and gave birth to True Thompson in April 2018.
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#PMT-2017-0927-8270
Big CatBig Cat

Twitter's 280-character limit will ruin threads and make the app unbearable

Twitter has announced that the app that everyone loves and can't make any money has announced they're going to make everyone read more. So 280 characters... I might not be able to be on Twitter anymore. That's so much reading. They just doubled their product. And they just ruined threads.

Twitter successfully moved to 280 characters and it became the standard. Whether it 'ruined' the app is subjective, but Big Cat definitely stayed on the app.
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Take Slip·Sep 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0927-8272
Cris CarterCris Carter

Warren Moon is the best quarterback I ever played with and it's not even close

Warren Moon. It's not even close. Really? Warren Moon. We played two seasons together. I had 244 catches and 24 touchdowns in only two years.

This is Carter's personal opinion based on his own production with those QBs.
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Take Slip·Sep 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0927-8274
Cris CarterCris Carter

Randy Moss is the most talented wide receiver that has ever played the game

I knew he was probably the most talented wide receiver that's ever played the game. Because he was that rare. But all the other things in his football brain is what knew that, man, this kid is really, really special.

Moss is widely considered the most talented, if not the most productive (Rice).
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Take Slip·Sep 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0927-8278
Cris CarterCris Carter

The NFL product suffers in September because the CBA limits padded practices

When they changed the collective bargain agreement... the player's like, okay, we want to practice less. All right, we'll grant you that. It's affected the product, all right? Because you can't have the few number of padded practices and train people how to play in the NFL. It's not going to work, so the product will suffer the first month of the season.

This is a recurring complaint from old-school players and analysts, but it correlates with the data of high turnover and penalty rates in early September.
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Take Slip·Sep 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0927-8280
Cris CarterCris Carter

Joe Flacco is not elite overall but has elite moments that elevate his team

Elite? Right on the border... In the pressure moments, can a guy rise up and elevate his team to the elite level? ... Joe Flacco not elite anymore but was once elite. No, no, no. Has elite moments. And raise his team to an elite level. Get it right.

This is a semantic debate about the word 'elite' and cannot be definitively proven.
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Take Slip·Sep 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0927-8282
Cris CarterCris Carter

Colin Kaepernick doesn't have the personality to effectively verbalize his cause

I just don't think he has the personality. I think that it's very, very rare that you see someone take such a prominent position on something that's really profound and not really necessarily have the personality that would allow them to be able to verbalize it... when you can't communicate with the general public of what your cause is and your reasoning, it's not going to endear people to what you're trying to say.

Kaepernick remained largely silent for years, which some argued hurt his public perception, while others argued it kept the focus on the issues.
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Take Slip·Sep 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0927-8284
Cris CarterCris Carter

Colin Kaepernick is a starting-level upgrade for 4 to 5 NFL teams right now

How many teams in the league right now do you think he would be an upgrade for at the starting quarterback position? Well, you can go through them. At least four or five. I mean, you don't have to leave New York. I mean, Josh McCown. I mean, my goodness.

Statistically, McCown and others were comparable to Kaepernick's final year, but Kaepernick never played in the NFL again to prove he was an 'upgrade'.
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Take Slip·Sep 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0927-8286
Cris CarterCris Carter

Every professional athlete needs a 'common sense guy' in their crew to keep them out of trouble

Out of your crew, have one guy that's got some common sense... you need a tech guy. You need a driver. One guy to do the troll accounts. Social media.

This is practical life advice for high-profile individuals to avoid legal or PR disasters.
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Take Slip·Sep 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0925-18166
Big CatBig Cat

Joe Flacco is officially no longer elite and stinks

I think Flacco stinks. Are we now worried that Joe Flacco's eliteness is so far behind us that we will never remember that he was once elite?

Flacco's 2017 season was poor (18 TDs, 13 INTs) and he was eventually replaced by Lamar Jackson. His 'elite' status never returned.
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Take Slip·Sep 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0925-18167
Big CatBig Cat

Ben Roethlisberger has the worst body in America

Big Ben, as the crow flies, has probably the worst body in general of anyone in America. Name me anybody with a shittier body.

This is a subjective opinion on his physique, though Roethlisberger was notoriously 'un-athletic' looking for an elite QB.
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#PMT-2017-0925-18170
HankHank

Blake Bortles is officially back

So my who's back of the week is Blake Bortles of the Blake Bortles Wikipedia Club. Huge game. Four touchdowns. He's back.

Bortles actually led the Jaguars to the AFC Championship game in the 2017 season, making this take arguably correct for the context of that specific season.
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#PMT-2017-0925-18171
Big CatBig Cat

Iowa and Wisconsin football programs only exist to have their hearts ripped out

Iowa and Wisconsin are both very similar in college but they just live to get crushed. It's like there's just moments in between getting your heart ripped out. So there's no real, like, excitement otherwise.

This is a subjective assessment of the pain felt by fanbases of consistently good but not 'elite' Big Ten programs.
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Take Slip·Sep 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0925-18174
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

The Giants failed by buying 'shiny toys' and ignoring their offensive line

The disappointment has got to be the Giants... It's when you go out and you get yourself nice, shiny toys, but you don't really make sure your carburetor's working... They went out and they got Ingram and Marshall, but they didn't do anything to upgrade their offensive line.

The 2017 Giants offensive line was widely ranked as one of the worst in the league, leading to a 3-13 season.
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Take Slip·Sep 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0925-18175
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

Sean McVay has the same rare 'command of the room' as an early Mike Tomlin

Sean McVay has that as well. He is like, he has a rare ability to command the room, get a player's face, but not have the player look at him like, man, who are you? ... It's a kind of a rare thing, kind of like an early Mike Tomlin.

McVay has since become one of the most successful coaches in the NFL, winning a Super Bowl and consistently commanding respect, validating this character assessment.
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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7841
Big CatBig Cat

Thursday Night Football is where real football gets played

I'm saying suck it because we have long said Thursday night football is where real football gets played. Yeah, it might be. You might get the Bengals and the Texans scoring no touchdowns. But you also might get a Brian Hoyer and Jared Goff shootout.

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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7843
Big CatBig Cat

Sean McVay is an elite coach who has turned Jared Goff into a monster

Sean McVay... I'll tell you what, that guy can fucking coach. Because he had play calls that were like, every now and then he'd sprinkle one play in and be like, whoa, that was really nicely designed. And what he's done with Jared Goff... Sean McVay has molded him into a monster.

Sean McVay became one of the best coaches in the NFL, winning a Super Bowl and consistently having top offenses. Goff flourished under him before being traded to Detroit.
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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7857
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

The NBA is better than any other league at staying relevant through drama during the off-season

The best thing about the NBA is they have done a great job of never having it end. So as soon as the NBA season ends, then you have the draft... free agency starts... summer league... then Kyrie demands a trade... it's a soap opera. It is the best.

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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7860
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Mainstream sports media is struggling because players now have their own platforms to control the narrative

That right there is why people and athletes kind of don't have the best relationship with the media. And it's why people start their own podcast or people do things on Uninterrupted or if people want to go on their own Instagram or Facebook Live. And I think that's why mainstream media, especially in sports, is struggling a little bit.

This prediction has come true as player-owned media (Draymond Green, Paul George, Kelce brothers) has exploded, often surpassing traditional network talk shows in relevance.
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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7861
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Michael Jordan is the GOAT, followed by LeBron, Kareem, Tim Duncan, and Magic Johnson

I'll go MJ 1. I'll go LeBron 2—still counting, though... Then at three, I would go Kareem. Four, I would go probably Tim. Then five, I would go Magic. Magic and Kobe are really, really close.

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Take Slip·Sep 22, 2017
#PMT-2017-0922-7863
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Magic Johnson is the face of the Lakers and the best Laker of all time over Kobe Bryant

I would still say Magic is the face of the Lakers. I think from a personality standpoint and just generationally, like Kobe was amazing what he was able to do... but I would still say Magic is the face of the Lakers.

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#PMT-2017-0922-7872
Big CatBig Cat

Playmakers is the greatest television show of any generation

It was basically ballers before ballers, but it was like rated R ballers. And it was like every stereotype about the NFL just on steroids... We're watching Playmakers from start to finish. Fuck ballers. That's JV shit. We're watching Playmakers from start to finish.

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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2918
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is an internet troll and a disturbed individual

[Kevin Durant] is an internet troll, but I think more important than that, he is a disturbed individual. And this most recent spur of activity that he's been doing from getting caught responding to himself to his apologies that he's been issuing... I've swung 360 degrees.

The sentiment that KD's burner account saga was 'disturbed' or at least highly unusual became a consensus view in sports media.
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#PMT-2017-0920-2920
Big CatBig Cat

Ben McAdoo is officially not a football guy

I am officially, here's me, a rare thing done on Pardon My Take... I'm here to apologize. Ben McAdoo is not a football guy. Firmly not. The punch the kangaroo in the face stunt, that's when I knew he was not a football guy. That slick back hair and the quarter length sleeve jumper... You can't look like an asshole when you get beat on Monday Night Football.

McAdoo was fired shortly after this (December 2017) and became a punchline for his tenure with the Giants, validating the 'not a football guy' label in the PMT universe.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2924
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

LeBron James is the hardest working player I have ever been around

LeBron is the hardest working guy that I've ever been around. And I've played with Dirk, Tim Duncan, Steph Curry, Jason Kidd... the amount of time that he takes on his body... i'm just saying when I look at how hard the guy works, then I think a lot of that has to do with why he has avoided injuries.

LeBron's longevity and investment in his body (reportedly $1.5M+ a year) is well-documented and widely accepted as the reason for his extended prime.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2925
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

LeBron James is the best player of our generation

LeBron to me is the best player of our generation. LeBron is the best player that I've ever played against so over my 17 years in this league. But it's weird because he is the best player I've ever played with. I played with Tim Duncan, I played with Jason Kidd... I've seen Tim do some absurd shit. Jay Kidd I got to see every day... but LeBron is the best.

Whether LeBron is the best is subjective, but he is universally ranked as one of the top two players in NBA history.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2926
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Steph Curry's comments about the Cavs' locker room smelling like champagne were disrespectful

That's why Steph made those comments about, 'oh, I hope their locker room still smells like champagne.' He said that after they won the first championship and they beat Cleveland in game six. And it was kind of a shot. It's a little disrespectful to say that. I love Steph, I don't know if he meant it to be really disrespectful, but yeah, you say that, it's like, 'hey, it was a good win.'

This is a subjective interpretation of a quote's intent, but it reflects the genuine tension between those two teams at the time.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2927
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

NBA players are unfairly criticized for moving teams compared to teams trading players

Kairi [Kyrie], what Boston did to Isaiah [Thomas], you know, it's just a part of our job... and yes it personally connected and it hurts at times. But when players decide to leave in free agency, it's 'let's burn a jersey.' No, this guy we gave you... when KD decided to go and do what he wanted to do with Golden State... we aren't allowed to do it without being criticized. But team can trade the players. They can play chess with us as much as they want.

The sentiment of 'player empowerment' and the critique of team loyalty became a massive talking point in the years following this interview.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0920-2928
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jason Garrett is only the Cowboys coach because he never says no to Jerry Jones

I'm pretty sure that Jason Garrett is only in place because he doesn't say no to Jerry Jones. So Jerry Jones is actually calling all these plays. And Jason Garrett, he pets them after every game. He's like, 'Jimmy used to always talk back to me.'

While speculative, it was a widely held belief during the Garrett era. Garrett lasted until 2019, consistently viewed as Jerry's protégé.
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#PMT-2017-0920-2929
Big CatBig Cat

Eli Manning has proven that luck exists in life

Eli Manning is so funny. His streak of consecutive games... it's just because he just goes down. He literally goes down every time that someone's even close to him, and that's why he gets to play every game... Eli has proven that luck exists in life. Some people are very, very lucky, and some people aren't. And he's a Manning.

The debate over Eli's 'Elite' status and Hall of Fame credentials is one of the most polarized in sports. Big Cat firmly falls on the 'lucky/not elite' side.
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Take Slip·Sep 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0918-18059
Big CatBig Cat

College football is more exciting than the NFL, but it isn't 'better than' the NFL

Saying something is better than is not exactly correct in this case because, yes, college football is more exciting, but it's not better than. I mean, the guys aren't playing defense half the time. People are wide open. The windows are wide open.

This is a matter of personal preference regarding the technical quality of play versus high-variance excitement.
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#PMT-2017-0918-18061
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Matthew McConaughey was meant to be a Californian who happened to be born in Texas

The danger in bringing Matthew McConaughey to Los Angeles is at any given time you might lose him. He might just defect... his natural state is like a caliber [Californian]... He was meant to be caliber. He was just he happened to be born on like a lot of land.

This is a personality assessment that cannot be factually proven.
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#PMT-2017-0918-18063
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Fullbacks are officially back in a big way in the NFL

Fullbacks are back in a big way... I think it might be confirmation bias, but I've been noticing fullbacks more and more. Specifically, Derek Coleman, the fullback for the Falcons.

While certain schemes used fullbacks, the position has generally continued to decline in overall NFL usage since 2017.
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Take Slip·Sep 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0918-18066
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Bears should start Mitch Trubisky now because the season is already lost

At some point, you just kind of say, screw it. You know, this season is lost, so let's just treat it like an extended preseason for next season.

The Bears did eventually follow this path, starting Trubisky in Week 5 of that season.
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Take Slip·Sep 18, 2017
#PMT-2017-0918-18068
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Tom Brady says he'll play until 45 to avoid a public farewell tour

I think he never wants his last year to be known as his last year. I don't think he ever wants to have a Derek Jeter farewell tour... by keeping that stake as far out into the future as possible, he'll never be in a season that anyone would say this is his last year.

Brady did play until 45 (retiring for good after the 2022 season) and famously avoided a traditional season-long farewell tour.
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#PMT-2017-0918-18070
Big CatBig Cat

Sam Bradford is the first player who isn't 'injured', he is just always hurt

He's [Bradford] not injured. He he's just, injured all the time. He's just always hurt. Yeah, so then you come home after a day of darting and you're like, I'm not drunk. I'm fine... That's what Sam Bradford's knee is. It's the new normal.

Bradford's career was essentially ended by chronic knee issues shortly after this, reinforcing the 'always hurt' label.
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#PMT-2017-0918-18071
HankHank

Andrew Luck is the NFL's version of Derrick Rose

Andrew Luck, by the way, is now... He's, like, almost, he's not Derrick Rose, but, like, there's that semblance of, like, he could just have a random surgery at any moment without an injury happening

Luck would ultimately retire early in 2019 due to the cycle of injuries, making this comparison quite prescient.
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Take Slip·Sep 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0915-11762
Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

Hewlett-Packard is a 'vile' company

The post office, I think the post office, unfortunately, you're just fighting. The stupidity of it is incredible ... Hewlett-Packard, on the other hand, is a vile company.

This is a personal opinion based on his specific experience.
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Take Slip·Sep 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0915-11763
Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

MeUndies needs to add an 'escape hatch' for older men to avoid the 'drip factor'

I have raised a legitimate question here. How can you not have an escape hatch for the undies? ... At my age, there was what we call a drip factor. ... You can't get Mr. Johnson out without pulling him down.

Subjective product feedback, though biologically accurate regarding senior citizens' needs.
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#PMT-2017-0915-11765
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tom Coughlin might actually be dead and operating on reflex muscles

I think Tom Coughlin has been dead for years, actually. ... After you die, your body—your muscles keep twitching. ... He's just been walking around berating players for not being on time to practice.

OpinionFootballHotSarcastic
Tom Coughlin is currently alive. The take is a comedic exaggeration.
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#PMT-2017-0915-11767
Big CatBig Cat

Men should not show their knees in an office setting

I actually stand with that rule because I've long said that shorts are gross. Men should not show their knees. That's fucked up. That's unbecoming.

Subjective fashion opinion.
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Take Slip·Sep 13, 2017
#PMT-2017-0913-14805
Big CatBig Cat

I'm preemptively sad about Philip Rivers retiring

I'm going to preemptively get sad when Phil Rivers retires. He's becoming more and more Phil Rivers, if that's possible. It's like every stereotype, every caricature of Phil Rivers, like when you close your eyes, you think of Phil Rivers stomping, yelling at refs, giving weird faces, spiking the ball... his eyes bugging out on the sidelines.

Rivers retired in January 2021, and Big Cat indeed frequently mentioned his sadness as the date approached.
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#PMT-2017-0913-14809
Big CatBig Cat

The Vikings officially won the Sam Bradford trade with the Eagles

Sam Bradford, that is an official win for the Vikings in their trade when you said that that was the worst trade ever last year. So your [PFT's] trade analysis now on the hot seat. Oh, last year, I mean, he had pretty damn good stats with the worst offensive line basically ever. Teddy Bridgewater might never play football again. Sam Bradford was on fire on Monday night.

The Eagles used the picks from the Bradford trade to help build their 2017 Super Bowl winning team, while Bradford played only 2 games in 2017 due to injury, making PFT's side of the argument much stronger.
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#PMT-2017-0913-14810
Big CatBig Cat

Steve Jobs didn't design the iPhone for people to put cases on it

I have never had a case on my phone. Skin on metal. Feels good. Feels real good. Feels wrong to do it. Steve Jobs didn't make an iPhone to put a fucking case on it.

This is a subjective aesthetic opinion, though it aligns with known design philosophies of Jony Ive and Steve Jobs.
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Take Slip·Sep 13, 2017·PR 101
#PMT-2017-0913-14813
Big CatBig Cat

Ted Cruz only watches porn on Twitter to avoid his wife seeing his browser history

I just love the fact that Ted Cruz doesn't know that private browsing is a thing, so he watches his porn on Twitter to not get caught by his wife. That is the most quintessential Ted Cruz thing. He only watches porn that he can find on Twitter so that no one knows he's watching porn, and now everyone knows he watches porn.

This is speculative satire and cannot be proven as Cruz's official explanation was that an 'aide' made a mistake.
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