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Monday, September 18, 201721 takes

Week 2 Fastest 2 minutes and a recap of the weekend of Football ( - ). Who's back of the week in honor of Texas Football being back for a brief second ( - ). Football Guy of the Week ( - ) . Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio joins the show to talk about Jerry Jones strong arming the league, when will Mitch Trubisky start and Gronk's injuries ( - ). Segments include Hurt or Injured for Sam Bradford, Sabermetrics for Joe Thomas, Locker Room Talk for Floyd Mayweather, Put one in his earhole for NFL players not respecting Fantasy Owners. Stay Woke on Statcast, and Explain it to Big Cat.

Mike Florio on Jerry Jones vs. Goodell, Trubisky Time, and NFL Frauds

Week 2 is officially in the books, and the fastest two minutes had Big Cat and PFT hitting high notes usually reserved for Kevin Hulk Hogan and Bartender Bortles. Between Tashaun Kaiser Soze vanishing in Cleveland and Tom Brady getting some Rex Burkhead in New Orleans, the energy is at an all-time high. But while everyone is riding the Week 2 wave, PFT is already looking at the calendar for the inevitable reality check coming next Sunday.

Void
Sep 18, 2017
#18058
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Week 3 is the week we officially find out which NFL teams are frauds

There's a lot of frauds. And week three is who we find out. That's when we know who the frauds are.

This is a subjective framing of the NFL season schedule commonly used by analysts.

The "Is Texas Back?" Paradox

Who’s Back of the Week featured a special tribute to the University of Texas. After a wild finish against USC, the sports world spent the entire night debating if the Longhorns were actually back. For Big Cat, the answer has nothing to do with the scoreboard and everything to do with the noise surrounding the program.

Void
Sep 18, 2017·Who's Back
#28546
Big CatBig Cat

The discussion of Texas being 'back' means the program is officially back

Texas football, just the discussion of it being back, means it's back. Because that's what Texas football has become. It's like Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan... certain programs where if they have one good game [we ask] is Florida back? Tennessee... Miami.

Texas would continue to cycle through 'back' and 'not back' for years until the Steve Sarkisian era.

Speaking of that game, Matthew McConaughey was spotted on the sidelines looking like he was one surfer dude away from defecting to Malibu forever. PFT pointed out that while we associate him with Texas, his soul might actually belong to the Pacific Coast Highway.

Void
Sep 18, 2017·Who's Back
#18061
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Matthew McConaughey was meant to be a Californian who happened to be born in Texas

The danger in bringing Matthew McConaughey to Los Angeles is at any given time you might lose him. He might just defect... his natural state is like a caliber [Californian]... He was meant to be caliber. He was just he happened to be born on like a lot of land.

This is a personality assessment that cannot be factually proven.

Mike Florio and the Jerry Jones Filibuster

Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk joined the show to break down the increasingly messy situation between Jerry Jones and Roger Goodell. While the media paints Jerry as the puppet master of the league, Florio suggests that the other owners might just be tired of hearing him talk. He believes Jerry is trying to stall Goodell’s contract extension through pure exhaustion.

Loss
Sep 18, 2017
#18065
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Jerry Jones is intentionally stalling Roger Goodell's contract to force him out by 2019

And there are some who think that what he's really trying to do is drive such a hard bargain with Roger Goodell that Goodell just eventually says, screw it, I'm out of here when my contract expires in 2019.

Roger Goodell signed a contract extension in December 2017 and did not leave in 2019.
Win
Sep 18, 2017
#28547
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Jerry Jones is not as powerful among NFL owners as the media portrays

People think that Jerry Jones is very powerful, and I guess he is if you focus on different groups, like as it relates to the media... but as it relates to the other owners, I don't think he's as powerful as people think he is. And I think it's getting to a point where people just tune him out.

Jones ultimately failed to block Goodell's contract extension shortly after this episode.

Moving to the field, the conversation shifted to the dumpster fire in Chicago. Big Cat is desperate for Mitch Trubisky to save his soul, and Florio didn't offer much defense for keeping Mike Glennon under center. If the ship is sinking, you might as well let the rookie captain it to see if he can find land.

Win
Sep 18, 2017
#18066
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Bears should start Mitch Trubisky now because the season is already lost

At some point, you just kind of say, screw it. You know, this season is lost, so let's just treat it like an extended preseason for next season.

The Bears did eventually follow this path, starting Trubisky in Week 5 of that season.

Florio also touched on the Patriots' dynamic, specifically the immortality of Tom Brady. While most people think Brady is just obsessed with TB12 pliability, Florio thinks there is a much more calculated reason why the GOAT keeps moving the retirement goalposts back.

Win
Sep 18, 2017
#18068
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Tom Brady says he'll play until 45 to avoid a public farewell tour

I think he never wants his last year to be known as his last year. I don't think he ever wants to have a Derek Jeter farewell tour... by keeping that stake as far out into the future as possible, he'll never be in a season that anyone would say this is his last year.

Brady did play until 45 (retiring for good after the 2022 season) and famously avoided a traditional season-long farewell tour.

Segments and Stay Woke

During a heated debate on why college football feels more fun right now, Big Cat had to set the record straight for the Saturday-only fans. Just because there are more 50-yard bombs doesn't mean the product is actually superior to the professional game.

Void
Sep 18, 2017
#18059
Big CatBig Cat

College football is more exciting than the NFL, but it isn't 'better than' the NFL

Saying something is better than is not exactly correct in this case because, yes, college football is more exciting, but it's not better than. I mean, the guys aren't playing defense half the time. People are wide open. The windows are wide open.

This is a matter of personal preference regarding the technical quality of play versus high-variance excitement.

In a quick check of the injury tent, Sam Bradford's knee remains a mystery wrapped in an enigma. It's reached a point where the injury isn't an event anymore; it's just his baseline state of existence.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Sam Bradford is the first player who isn't 'injured', he is just always hurt

He's [Bradford] not injured. He he's just, injured all the time. He's just always hurt. Yeah, so then you come home after a day of darting and you're like, I'm not drunk. I'm fine... That's what Sam Bradford's knee is. It's the new normal.

Bradford's career was essentially ended by chronic knee issues shortly after this, reinforcing the 'always hurt' label.

Finally, Big Cat went full conspiracy theorist on the MLB's latest technological push. After a StatCast representative failed to load a dashboard at a Cubs game, the verdict was reached: the whole thing is a Nate Silver-led operation from a basement in Arizona.

Loss
Sep 18, 2017·Stay Woke
#18072
Big CatBig Cat

StatCast is a complete hoax and is likely just one guy making up numbers

StatCast is the fakest, fraudest thing ever... Every fucking time, it's just like a ball's hit hard. Oh, it was 119 exit velocity with an angle of 47... It's literally a guy—sitting somewhere probably in like Arizona it's Nate Silver... he's just watching games he's like okay that looked like a hard hit ball 108 miles an hour.

StatCast is a verified system using radar and optical tracking, not a guy in a closet.

If the Giants win Monday Night by a score of 12-10, we'll know the simulation is truly broken.

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Loss
Sep 18, 2017
#18060
Big CatBig Cat

The Giants will win Monday Night Football against the Lions by a score of 12-10

And the Giants, Eli's going to fucking throw the ball into the ground 100 times. And the Giants are going to win like 12 to 10.

The Lions defeated the Giants 24-10 on September 18, 2017.
Void
Sep 18, 2017
#28545
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

America could deal with even more Giants primetime games

Permission to go there? And voice an unpopular opinion? I think that America could deal with more Giants primetime games. Love the Giants in primetime.

The Giants continued to be featured heavily in primetime despite poor performance, often leading to fan complaints.
Void
Sep 18, 2017·Who's Back
#18062
HankHank

Cheating on your wife shouldn't count as cheating if you are under 5'5"

If you're under 5'5", I don't think it's cheating. Yeah, you're fulfilling your natural destiny at that point. You're just shocked that a woman pays attention to you.

This is a comedic/satirical claim that cannot be verified.
Loss
Sep 18, 2017·Who's Back
#18063
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Fullbacks are officially back in a big way in the NFL

Fullbacks are back in a big way... I think it might be confirmation bias, but I've been noticing fullbacks more and more. Specifically, Derek Coleman, the fullback for the Falcons.

While certain schemes used fullbacks, the position has generally continued to decline in overall NFL usage since 2017.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyle Shanahan is the most likely coach to be the first one ejected under new NFL rules

I think a sneaky one is Kyle Shanahan because, one, he's a dick. Number two, he's got that entitlement thing, or at least the refs will think he's got that entitlement thing. So if he says one thing that crosses the line, they'll be like, I'm going to teach you a lesson.

Kyle Shanahan has not been notably ejected from games, and ejections for head coaches remain extremely rare in the NFL.
Void
Sep 18, 2017
#28548
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Many NFL agents care more about their fees than the long-term health of their clients

I think a lot of agents, they just care about what their fee is going to be. They don't care about whether or not the guy is going to get jacked up playing for that team. All they care about is getting the maximum fee and having the maximum contract they can parade around out there.

This is a cynical industry observation that Florio has frequently doubled down on.
Loss
Sep 18, 2017
#18067
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Bengals are the most likely 0-2 team to turn it around and make the playoffs

Out of those, I would say the Bengals... If they get Kaepernick, then put the Bengals in.

The Bengals finished 7-9 and missed the playoffs in 2017.
Win
Sep 18, 2017
#28549
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Jason Witten will retire after the 2017 season

I'm amazed [Witten] is still playing. But I have a feeling this year's it for him.

Jason Witten retired in May 2018 to join the Monday Night Football broadcast booth (though he later returned to play).
Win
Sep 18, 2017
#28550
Mike FlorioMike Florio

LA fans will flock to Las Vegas to see the Raiders instead of supporting the Rams or Chargers

The Raiders are going to be closer than Oakland when they're in Las Vegas. And then they're really going to have a mess if all the people from Los Angeles are flocking to Vegas to see the Raiders play and not going to see the Rams or the Chargers.

Vegas became a massive destination for LA-based Raiders fans, and the Chargers in particular struggled to build an LA fanbase.
Win
Sep 18, 2017
#18069
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Teddy Bridgewater will play for the Vikings before the 2017 season ends

I don't know what in the hell they're expecting at this point. So I think, yeah, we'll see Bridgewater before the end of the year on the field.

Bridgewater did return to the field and played in Week 15 against the Bengals, his first action since the injury.
Win
HankHank

Andrew Luck is the NFL's version of Derrick Rose

Andrew Luck, by the way, is now... He's, like, almost, he's not Derrick Rose, but, like, there's that semblance of, like, he could just have a random surgery at any moment without an injury happening

Luck would ultimately retire early in 2019 due to the cycle of injuries, making this comparison quite prescient.

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