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Brian Windhorst, LIV And PGA Merge, Dan Rapaport Breaks It Down For Us, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Listener Submitted FAQ's

Wednesday, June 7, 202317 takes

The PGA Tour and LIV have merged and Jay Monahan is the world's biggest hypocrite. We talk about the colossal golf news and what it may mean going forward (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Wildfires in NYC, Stanley Cup Final Game 2 and more (-). Brian Windhorst joins the show to talk NBA Finals, His career and relationship with Lebron, whether he ever fell asleep on air and how strong is Lebron (-)? Dan Rapaport joins us to tell us what happened with PGA/LIV, what it means going forward and who the big losers/winners are (-). We finish with listener submitted FAQ's (-).

Brian Windhorst and Dan Rapaport on the LIV/PGA Merger and NBA Finals

Cash rules everything around us, and never was that more apparent than on Wednesday morning. Big Cat and PFT opened the show in a state of genuine shock following the news that the PGA Tour and LIV Golf have officially merged. The betrayal felt by the players who stayed loyal to the Tour is palpable, especially considering the high horse Jay Monahan has been riding for the last two years. Big Cat didn't hold back on the commissioner's sudden about-face regarding the source of LIV's funding.

Void
Jun 7, 2023
#1955
Big CatBig Cat

Jay Monahan is the biggest scumbag in the world

Jay Monahan, the biggest scumbag in the world, the biggest scumbag in the world. He brought in 9/11 families to act as a human shield for what he was doing behind the scenes, which was negotiating with the LIV tour to try to make the PGA tour more money in the long run. While again telling the golfers on the PGA tour, don't do business with these people. They are evil. So yes, he's the biggest piece of shit in the world.

This is a subjective moral judgment and personal opinion.

PFT compared the entire saga to a classic sitcom business move. While the PGA Tour spent millions trying to fight off the new league, they eventually realized they couldn't outlast the bottomless pockets of the Public Investment Fund.

Win
Jun 7, 2023
#1956
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LIV Golf comes out of the merger looking like the Michael Scott Paper Company

The LIV tour, by the way, they come out of this smelling like roses. They're the Michael Scott Paper Company comparably to the PGA tour. They started their own tour. Everybody laughed at 'em. Their ratings were bad. But at some point along the way, the PGA tour needed the LIV tour just as much as the LIV guys needed the PGA tour.

LIV successfully forced the PGA to the table, effectively validating their disruptive strategy.

While the moral side of the merger is messy, the financial reality for the players is simple: more money is coming. Big Cat noted that while guys like Will Zalatoris or Hideki Matsuyama might be fuming about the nine-figure checks they turned down, the long-term outlook for the professional golfer's bank account has never been higher.

Win
Jun 7, 2023
#24124
Big CatBig Cat

In 10 years, PGA players will realize the LIV merger was the moment they started making a lot more money

It's gotta suck to be a PGA tour player today because they were blindsided. [But] in like 10 years they'll probably look back and be like, yeah, we did make a lot more money. They already are making more money because of the PGA having to compete with LIV. They're probably all gonna make a shitload more money now.

PGA Tour purses and signature event prize pools have indeed ballooned since the merger announcement, with the 'PIF' investment intended to further solidify this growth.

To help make sense of the chaos, Dan Rapaport joined the show to break down the winners and losers of the deal. He highlighted the sheer hypocrisy of the Tour's leadership and how the landscape of sports ownership is changing forever. PFT suggested that this is just the beginning of a trend where the price of sports franchises begins to outpace even the wealthiest American individuals.

Open
Jun 7, 2023
#1957
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Foreign investment funds will eventually buy American sports teams as prices exceed what US billionaires can afford

As the teams get more and more expensive, there's fewer and fewer people who can afford to pay for these teams. At some point, the foreign investment funds are gonna become part of the shrinking pool of available billions that can buy American sports teams. We might be on that slide down there.

The NBA and other leagues have already started relaxing rules for sovereign wealth fund investments in minority stakes.

Switching gears to the hardwood, Brian Windhorst joined the program from a green room in Miami to talk NBA Finals. After the Nuggets dropped Game 2, Windhorst shared that Michael Malone went scorched earth on his team during film sessions. Despite the Heat's resilience, Windhorst believes the loss might have been exactly what Denver needed to regain their focus.

Win
Jun 7, 2023
#24128
Brian WindhorstBrian Windhorst

The Nuggets losing Game 2 of the NBA Finals was a 'good loss' that they needed to wake up

It sounds like what you're saying is... the Nuggets losing [Game 2] was a good loss. It woke them up. They needed something like this. [Windhorst]: That's exactly the way Michael Malone phrased it. You won't see it on television because it had to be bleeped, but... it's exactly what he said. I imagine the bus just pulled up to Jeff Green's house and they had a bonding dinner... and then today they had a film session where Malone showed 'em 17 clips where they screwed up. So they're saying they're gonna do better.

The Nuggets responded by winning the next three games in a row to win the NBA title 4-1, proving the loss was indeed a effective wake-up call.

Wendy also gave a scouting report on the most anticipated prospect since LeBron: Victor Wembanyama. Having spent time with Wemby in Paris, Windhorst described a player who defies physics. While his frame might lead to some highlight-reel bloopers early on, his defensive range is unlike anything the NBA has ever seen.

Win
Jun 7, 2023
#1961
Brian WindhorstBrian Windhorst

Victor Wembanyama can defend the basket and the three-point line at the same time

He can defend the basket and the three point line at the same time. And I tell that to people and they go, you are out of your mind. Why would you even bother saying that? Because I'm telling you, I saw it. He'd be in the protecting the front of the rim. Kick it out to the corner and he would get out there in time to block it.

In his rookie season, Wembanyama led the league in blocks and recorded several highlight blocks on three-point attempts, proving this claim.

Before letting him go, the guys touched on some classic Windy lore, including the infamous "What is going on in Utah?" fingers and the time he definitely did NOT fall asleep on live television.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne featured a heavy dose of the paranormal. PFT is convinced that the recent news about recovered alien craft was perfectly timed to be buried by the Taylor Swift news cycle. He even floated the idea that the whistleblower might be a strategic move to keep global rivals on their toes.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The alien whistleblower might be a government plant to trick China and Russia into thinking the US has recovered alien technology

This guy might just be making it all up and he's authorized by the government to make it up because that way China and Russia are like, wait, what the fuck? We don't have any alien craft. They know all this technology in the United States that we don't know yet. And then their military starts to panic and they get scared of us cuz we think we got that alien shit.

While plausible in the realm of intelligence operations, this remains an unproven conspiracy theory.

Hank’s Hot Seat was college baseball, specifically the absolute fun-killers who enforce the pitch clock during the most intense moments of the game. He argued that when the game is on the line, the rules should step aside for the sake of the drama.

Void
HankHank

The pitch clock should be turned off in high-leverage baseball situations like bases loaded with two outs

It was Penn versus Southern Miss. It was 3-2, bases loaded, two outs. Best, probably one of the funnest situations. Baseball crowds going crazy and the ump called the clock violation and called 'em out. Which is just like... that should be another unwritten [rule] where if that's the count, that's the situation, the clock does not matter. Turn the clock off.

This is a subjective opinion on how sports rules should be applied.

The show wrapped up with some listener-submitted FAQs, including the origin of Big Cat’s name and what the new Chicago studio will look like once it's fully inhabited.

Hopefully, the new studio has enough room for a lottery ball machine and zero moral high grounds.

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More Takes

Void
Jun 7, 2023
#1958
Big CatBig Cat

Team golf doesn't work long-term

I still don't, I think the LIV knew that like team format doesn't work, team formats don't work in golf. It just doesn't. The way golf works is you have a bunch of guys competing against each other for the best.

While team events like the Ryder Cup are popular, a season-long team format hasn't yet proven to be a major mainstream draw.
Void
Jun 7, 2023
#24125
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Athletes should always take the 'insane amount of money' when offered because sports leagues have zero loyalty to players

If somebody is offering you an insane amount of money to play a sport, you should probably take that money. Because guess what? When it comes down to it, the league that you have any sort of loyalty to will not have any loyalty to you whatsoever if they can make a 10th of a percent more in net profit 10 years from now. Anytime somebody can pay you 10 times your total income to play a sport for fewer days a year... absolutely, a hundred percent, take that money.

This is a subjective moral/business philosophy that cannot be definitively proven true or false.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The US government uses Taylor Swift news to distract from alien craft revelations

In fact, I went up to our friend Kelly Keegs, who is maybe the biggest Taylor Swift fan in the entire world. I was like, so did you hear about The Aliens? And she was like, what Aliens? Taylor might be working for the United States government and they just told her like, Hey Taylor, please dump your boyfriend right now because we need to cover up the alien thing.

It is a satirical conspiracy theory that cannot be factually proven or disproven.
Loss
Jun 7, 2023
#1960
Brian WindhorstBrian Windhorst

The NBA Finals will be tied 2-2 by the weekend

Right when you think you got it figured out, the Heat will put you right on your backside. So my guess is that we'll be 2-2 by the weekend, but that's just a guess. I don't have like a great feel for it.

The Nuggets won both games in Miami over the weekend (Games 3 and 4) to take a 3-1 lead, meaning the series was not tied 2-2.
Win
Jun 7, 2023
#1962
Brian WindhorstBrian Windhorst

Victor Wembanyama will be embarrassed by highlights at times because of his high center of gravity

He is very, very light. He's got a very high center of gravity. It's very easy to get him off balance. So he is going to get embarrassed at times. You know, there will be highlights where people will laugh at him and say, this guy can't play and then he is going to bust your ass.

Wembanyama had moments where he was posterized or pushed around, but his overall production was elite.
Open
Jun 7, 2023
#24129
Dan RapaportDan Rapaport

The PGA/LIV merger brings golf closer to a global circuit model similar to Formula One

If we look back on this in five years... we have this kind of white whale in our sport for a while of this global tour... we could have like a Formula One circuit where we've got events in LA and New York and Rome and Paris and Australia and Tokyo. We are closer to that. The DP World tour is also involved with this... so golf is probably going more global.

While the details of the merger are still being finalized, the PGA Tour has already significantly expanded its global footprint and partnership with international tours.
Win
Jun 7, 2023
#1963
Dan RapaportDan Rapaport

The PGA/LIV merger is a total victory for Saudi Arabia

The general reaction is that this is a win for the Saudis. What's a reaction from the players? You've got the LIV players. Taylor Gooch is on there tweeting a picture of his feet at a beach. Phil is dancing. This is a victory for them. They've wanted this all along.

The PIF successfully integrated with the PGA Tour, achieving significant influence over the sport's future.
Win
Jun 7, 2023
#24130
Dan RapaportDan Rapaport

If a sovereign wealth fund offered tennis a billion dollars for a 'PIF Tour,' tennis would accept it in a heartbeat

If some guy who controls some country's money says, oh, I want to give the NBA players a billion dollars... the PJ Tour set a hell of a precedent. A sport like tennis is a good, I think, example. Tennis is really great for the top 20 players, but there's not nearly as many players making a good living in tennis as there is in golf. If the Saudis came to tennis and said, here's a bunch of this money, let's make it the PIF tour, they would say yes in a heartbeat.

Since this take, the ATP and WTA have held major events in Saudi Arabia and the PIF has signed a 'strategic partnership' with the ATP, confirming the trend.
Void
Jun 7, 2023
#1964
Dan RapaportDan Rapaport

Jay Monahan and Rory McIlroy are the biggest losers of the LIV/PGA merger

The biggest losers in this, Jay Monahan number one, probably Rory McIlroy number two. Not because Rory's a bad guy, just because he was the most vocal. And Brandel Chamblee, because he really dug his feet in on the take. It's one of the saddest days in the history of professional golf.

McIlroy later expressed feeling like a sacrificial lamb, and Monahan's credibility was severely damaged among players.

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