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CFB With Andy Staples, CM Punk In Studio, MNF Doubleheader, Tush Push On The Ropes + FAQ’s

Wednesday, September 17, 202521 takes

Monday Night Doubleheader and Baker is the most fun QB to watch in the NFL. We talk Texans, pinky team, and a bet for the Chiefs to win the SB. Raiders completely ruined the good football vibes with a drive to nowhere and Justin Herbert continues to dominate while Tom Brady watched from the booth. The Tush Push may finally be on its way out after this weekend (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a rock skipping competition and a terrible Ken Rosenthal apology (-). Andy Staples joins the show to talk a wild weekend in CFB, is Notre Dame cooked? Miami dominant, Tennessee/Georgia, Heisman and tons more (-). CM Punk joins us in studio ahead of Wrestlepalooza to talk his career, being back at WWE, Cubs and more (-). We finish with listener FAQ’s (-).

Andy Staples, CM Punk, and Big Cat’s Pinky Bet Disaster

Big Cat is back in the danger zone. After years of avoiding the ultimate physical sacrifice, the Houston Texans' lackluster start has pushed him over the edge. Baker Mayfield is currently playing the best football of his life, which unfortunately came at the expense of CJ Stroud and a Texans offense that can't seem to score from the one-yard line. Big Cat is so convinced the Texans are frauds that he’s putting his anatomy on the line again.

Win
Sep 17, 2025
#17237
Big CatBig Cat

The Texans are officially my Pinky Team and I don't think they can win the Super Bowl

The Texans are officially be my Pinky team... I will cut the tip of my pinky off of the Texans win the Super Bowl. That's a, that's a fair. And I don't even think, yeah. I hate the pinky bet. Yeah. I don't understand. I don't understand thrilling.

The Texans went 12-5 but lost to the Patriots in the Divisional Round. Big Cat's pinky survived yet again.

But he didn't stop there. Since the fans are bloodthirsty for some kind of permanent modification, he’s branched out into the world of tattoos. With the Chiefs looking like the only competent team in a top-heavy AFC, the fear of a three-peat is real, but the fear of a permanent Swiftie mark is greater.

Void
Sep 17, 2025
#17238
Big CatBig Cat

I will get a Taylor Swift lyric tattooed on my body if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl

If the Chiefs win the Super Bowl, I will get a Taylor Swift lyric tattooed on my body... in a place that can be seen. I get to pick the lyric, but I will have it on my body.

The Chiefs did not win the Super Bowl (6-11), so the tattoo bet was not triggered.

MNF Doubleheader and the Death of the Tush Push

The guys broke down a Monday Night doubleheader that gave us the highs of Baker Cook and the lows of whatever the Raiders were doing on that 19-play drive to nowhere. PFT is already looking ahead to the Commanders' next game and is ready to bubble-wrap Jayden Daniels to avoid the cursed turf at FedEx Field.

Void
Sep 17, 2025
#17239
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Commanders should bench Jaden Daniels this weekend to protect him from the FedEx Field turf

I act, I don't wanna see Jayden this weekend. Oh, I, I think we should sit him. Okay. Because I, I'm still dealing with my PTSD Post-Traumatic Snyder disorder. When Robert Griffin had a sprained knee, came back too soon, everything was bad after that... Every quarterback has gotten injured on that turf.

Subjective strategy for injury management, though Daniels' health throughout the 2025 season will be the indicator.

Speaking of strategy, the Bengals' quarterback situation is so dire that PFT has a simple solution for Zac Taylor: forget the forward pass entirely. With Joe Burrow out, the room is looking more like a specialized ground-and-pound unit than a modern NFL offense.

Loss
Sep 17, 2025
#20774
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Bengals should only run the ball with their current backup quarterback room

They [the Bengals] should not try to pass. They should just try to run the football. That's because those four [backup] names—Jake Browning, Sean Clifford, Brett Rypien, and Mike White—that's literally a Mount Rushmore of 'hand the ball off.' Do not try to pass the ball.

The Bengals did rely more on the run after Burrow's injury, but obviously continued to pass. Browning actually performed surprisingly well as a passer later in the 2024 season.

We also have to prepare for the end of an era. The NFL seems to have finally gathered enough "officiating controversy" evidence to put the Tush Push in the graveyard. Between the constant offsides screenshots and the refs moving linemen back on Monday night, the writing is on the wall.

Open
Sep 17, 2025
#17240
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

This will be the final season of the Tush Push as the NFL prepares to ban it

And now we're getting everything that we need, all the ammunition necessary for at the end of the season for it to be banned. It's gonna be, this is the last season of the push. It's banned.

The NFL Competition Committee's offseason ruling in 2026 will determine if this prediction holds.

College Football with Andy Staples

Andy Staples joined the show to help make sense of a Saturday that saw the SEC hierarchy get shuffled once again. The biggest shocker isn't the coaching carousel, but the fact that a Manning might actually be... bad? Arch Manning's recent performance has everyone questioning if the yips have moved into Austin.

Loss
Sep 17, 2025
#17244
Andy StaplesAndy Staples

Arch Manning stinks right now and is a fundamentally different quarterback than we expected

I don't know what the hell this is. It looks like he's throwing from a different arm slot... I thought maybe he could be average at worst. I don't know what the hell this is... it does feel like it's mental. It feels like the yips almost.

Arch Manning improved significantly as the 2025 season progressed, finishing with 2,942 yards, 24 TDs, and an 8-3 record. While he had early struggles, he settled in and was a capable starter, not someone who 'stinks.'

Andy is also high on the U, suggesting that Mario Cristobal has finally built a complete roster that might be the best value in the country right now. While Florida fans wait for the inevitable Billy Napier pink slip, Miami is looking like a legitimate threat to crash the playoff party.

Push
Sep 17, 2025
#17246
Andy StaplesAndy Staples

Miami is a complete team and a great value at 16-to-1 to win the National Championship

I would put them [Miami] above LSU in Texas. 'Cause it's easier for them to make the playoffs... they fixed the defense. The defense stunk last year... they're a much more complete team.

Miami made the CFP National Championship game (losing 21-27 to Indiana), validating them as a contender. But the 16-to-1 bet didn't pay off.

CM Punk in Studio

CM Punk made his return to the studio ahead of Wrestlepalooza to talk about his WWE comeback, the joy of working with his wife AJ Lee again, and his absolute disdain for the city of St. Louis. He didn't hold back on the "Provel" cheese or the vibes of the city in general.

Void
Sep 17, 2025
#17248
CM PunkCM Punk

St. Louis is a terrible city with shit sports teams and paste-like pizza

St. Louis isn't great. Sports teams shit. Pizza not good. I don't even think it's cheese. I think they use like, some sort of glue or paste. It's a whole, whole entire city of people sitting under an arch eating paste.

Opinion on a city's quality and food.

He also gave us his "Six Grandfathers" of wrestling, a expanded version of the Mount Rushmore that honors the legends who built the business. While he's enjoying his current run, he's also keeping a close eye on other sports, specifically calling out the Edmonton Oilers for being the NHL's version of the Maple Leafs.

Open
Sep 17, 2025
#17249
CM PunkCM Punk

The Edmonton Oilers are choke artists and will never win a Stanley Cup

He [McDavid] ain't winning a cup in, in Edmonton. No. Oh. Not at all. They fucking, they're choke artists. They might, they might as well might as well be Maple Leafs. It ain't, it ain't gonna fucking happen.

The Oilers have failed to win the Cup during the McDavid era thus far; this remains pending for future seasons.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank is on the Hot Seat for his hubris after claiming he is a world-class rock skipper following the recent cheating scandal in the world stone skimming championships. Big Cat and PFT are already planning a lake-side showdown to prove that Hank's arm angle is just as broken as his golf swing.

Void
HankHank

I am a better rock skipper than both Big Cat and PFT Commenter

I think I'm better than PFT... I didn't say guaranteed, but I think I am [better than both]. I don't know. I just think I'm, I think I'm a good, I'm, I have a lot of experience skipping rocks.

Personal claim about rock-skipping ability. Cannot verify the outcome of rock-skipping competitions between podcast hosts.

We finished the show with some listener FAQs, including which member of the show has the best body—a title Hank holds by default simply because he's the only one who believes he's capable of seeing a six-pack again.

At least we know if anyone goes to jail, Big Cat is the only one reliable enough to pick up the one phone call.

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More Takes

Loss
Sep 17, 2025
#20775
Big CatBig Cat

ESPN manufactured the Tom Brady booth controversy to sabotage his Fox career

ESPN set that up because they're trying to get [Tom Brady] to not be able to call games on Fox anymore... ESPN knew it's Raiders Monday Night Football—'Oh, we heard that Tom Brady might be in the booth. Let's do an entire minute about Tom Brady being in the booth and talking to Chip Kelly.' Now he's not gonna be able to call games for Fox anymore.

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Brady continued to call games for Fox throughout the season despite his ownership status, though he did face restrictions on visiting team facilities.
Win
Sep 17, 2025
#20776
Big CatBig Cat

Saudi sports washing is working because everyone eventually accepts the money

Credit to [the Saudis]. They kind of, they're doing a pretty good job. They just, because everyone just is like, 'Yeah, I'll come.' It's working. LeBron, us—if they ask us—everybody... I'll do anything for a hundred million dollars. Anything. It doesn't matter what it is.

The continued expansion of Saudi investment into tennis, boxing, and soccer supports the idea that the strategy is effective at gaining entry into major sports.
Void
HankHank

Teams should only celebrate clinching the division, not the Wild Card or DS

Clinching the playoffs is absolutely celebration worthy... I think when you win the wild card division series, it's like, this should be business as usual. Like we are, we're here now to win a championship. Let's focus on that.

Purely a subjective view on sports etiquette.
Win
Sep 17, 2025
#17243
Andy StaplesAndy Staples

Billy Napier's firing at Florida is inevitable and could happen soon

It feels inevitable that that he'll get fired. But the problem guys is it felt inevitable last year... I don't see a way out of this for Billy because they're gonna lose. You would think most of these games against the good teams.

Billy Napier was fired by Florida on October 19, 2025, after a 3-4 start to the season. His firing was indeed inevitable as predicted.
Win
Sep 17, 2025
#20777
Andy StaplesAndy Staples

Diego Pavia makes any team better and you can never pick against him

I'll never pick against Diego Pavia again, I've decided, 'cause I picked South Carolina last week. The guy's just a fricking dog. Period. Like, is there any team that wouldn't be made better by Diego Pavia being their quarterback right now?

Pavia led Vanderbilt to a historic upset over Alabama later that season, proving Staples right about his impact and grit.
Win
Sep 17, 2025
#20781
Big CatBig Cat

Both Tennessee and Georgia are definitely College Football Playoff teams

I came away from that game being like, both these teams are college football playoff teams. They're both really, really good. It wasn't a situation where it was like, 'Oh man, Georgia is bad' or 'Tennessee's bad.'

Both Georgia and Tennessee remained in the top tier of the SEC and made the 12-team College Football Playoff in 2024.
Void
Sep 17, 2025
#17245
Big CatBig Cat

A 10-2 Notre Dame team will definitely make the College Football Playoff

I know that a 10 and two Notre Dame team will be in the college football playoff because that's just how it works... If they go 10 and two, they will be in the college football playoff.

Notre Dame finished approximately 9-3 in 2025. A 10-2 Notre Dame team would have made the CFP under the 12-team format, but Notre Dame did not finish 10-2.
Push
Sep 17, 2025
#20778
Andy StaplesAndy Staples

Texas A&M might have the best portal receiver haul in the country

[Texas] A&M hit on Mario Craver and Cyrus Allen, the two guys at receiver they got outta the portal. That might be the best receiver hall outta the portal so far this year. We may find out that A&M's offense is just really, really good.

Texas A&M's receivers were solid but didn't emerge as the definitive best group in the country as the season progressed.
Loss
Sep 17, 2025
#20779
Andy StaplesAndy Staples

Utah is the favorite to win the Big 12 if they beat Texas Tech this weekend

If... Utah wins [this weekend], Utah is your favorite in the Big 12. I can't wait to see this because... Utah probably has the best offensive line in the Big 12.

Utah struggled significantly as the season went on, largely due to injuries to key players like Cam Rising, and they did not win the Big 12.
Void
Sep 17, 2025
#17247
CM PunkCM Punk

Roddy Piper, Bret Hart, Terry Funk, Eddie Guerrero, Harley Race, and Dusty Rhodes are the all-time greats

I like to say six grandfathers instead of Mount Rushmore... Brett Hart... Roddy Piper... Terry Funk... Eddie Guerrero... Harley Race... Dusty Rhodes. Six with a bullet.

Subjective ranking of wrestling greats.
Void
Sep 17, 2025
#20780
CM PunkCM Punk

AJ Lee is the only free agent in pro wrestling who could top my return to WWE

If you look at the field of eligible free agents in pro wrestling, there's only one that could top what I did. And it was [AJ Lee]. It took a while to massage some things out and get it done, but to me, Wrestlepalooza is the celebration of wrestling.

AJ Lee's return was a massive moment in wrestling, though whether it 'topped' Punk's iconic return is subjective.

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