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Chris Long, Joel Embiid Drops 70, Ban The Word Analytics + Listener FAQ’s

Wednesday, January 24, 202424 takes

Joel Embiid drops 70 on Monday Night and KAT finishes second place yet again (-). We talk about the fall out from Sunday, banning the word analytics, coach hirings and more (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including RIP uga, Chuck Schumer can suck it and Kevin Durant wants in on the GOAT debate (-). Chris Long joins the show to talk about upcoming Championship Sunday, how the ravens defense works, Brock Purdy discourse, what type of coach works in today’s NFL and more (-). We finish with listener submitted FAQ’s (-).

Chris Long on Championship Sunday, Joel Embiid's 70, and Banning Analytics

Joel Embiid put on an absolute clinic against Wemby and the Spurs, dropping 70 points and making it look effortless. Big Cat was mesmerized by the performance, especially contrasted with Karl-Anthony Towns getting 62 in a loss and getting publicly roasted by his own coach for "unprofessional" basketball. The historic night also sparked a debate about how the NBA handles these massive scoring outbursts.

Void
Jan 24, 2024
#21644
Big CatBig Cat

Every January 22nd, all NBA teams should be required to try and break the single-game scoring record in honor of Kobe Bryant's 81-point game

Darren Rovell actually had a great idea that on February or January 22nd, every single year, the day that Kobe dropped 81 on the Raptors, every team should have to try to break the record. I like that idea. That's good.

This is a whimsical suggestion for a league rule change, making it inherently subjective.

PFT is already looking ahead to how the rest of the league responds to Embiid's dominance. While the Sixers are vibing with Pat Bev's "Belt to Ass" tour, the rest of the league's superstars are likely feeling the pressure to keep up.

Loss
Jan 24, 2024
#6860
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

James Harden will try to score 60 points in his next game to answer Joel Embiid

I'm gonna bet on James Harden in his next game to go out there and try to score like 55, 60 points. Yeah. I feel like he's got something to prove. He's got an answer for it.

Harden scored 22 points on 5-of-14 shooting against the Raptors on January 26, 2024, the game following this take.

Despite the scoring explosion, Big Cat isn't convinced the hardware is staying in Philly. Between the games missed and the new league rules, the MVP race is becoming a game of availability as much as talent.

Win
Jan 24, 2024
#6859
Big CatBig Cat

Joel Embiid will not win MVP this year because he'll miss too many games

He probably won't be able to win MVP 'cause he's gonna miss too many games this year. He's already missed 11 outta 40... it will be very funny if Joel has like an even better year than last year. But because he plays like 64 games instead of 65, that'll be the quickest that everyone will turn on a rule.

Embiid missed significant time due to a knee injury and finished the season with only 39 games played, disqualifying him from MVP consideration.

The Analytics War and Sunday Cleanup

The guys took a sledgehammer to the current discourse surrounding analytics in the NFL. PFT pointed out that the word has basically become a boogeyman for fans who just hate seeing their team fail on a fourth-down conversion, regardless of whether the math actually checked out.

Void
Jan 24, 2024
#6865
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The word 'analytics' is used as a placeholder for any number that sports fans dislike

I have a take. And that's, people just use the word, they substitute the word analytics in whenever there's a number that they don't like and they're like, this is analytics.

This is a subjective observation on sports media discourse.

Big Cat took it a step further, arguing that while spreadsheets might have sucked the soul out of the mid-range jumper in basketball or the stolen base in baseball, they are the best thing to ever happen to the gridiron.

Void
Jan 24, 2024
#6867
Big CatBig Cat

Analytics have ruined baseball and basketball, but they've made football more exciting

Analytics or you know, advanced statistics, Sabre metrics, all these things has in a way ruined baseball and basketball... Football is the one sport where analytics and advance like metrics has made football significantly more exciting... the nineties football and early 2000 football when it wasn't even a question. If you had a fourth and two, you'd punt. Like, why would you want that?

Subjective opinion on the aesthetic quality of sports across eras.

Speaking of the playoffs, Big Cat has officially hit a breaking point regarding his "support" for fellow NFC North teams. The Lions' magical run has been fun, but the thought of a division rival hoisting a trophy is finally too much to bear.

Win
Jan 24, 2024
#6870
Big CatBig Cat

I am officially supporting the 49ers over the Lions because the Lions are a division rival

I've reached my limit of pulling even remotely for a division rival. I I'm done, I'm done with the lines. I think I have to just go Niners. 'cause it's just, they're, they're a division rival. I was reaching my limit and I've reached my limit.

The 49ers beat the Lions 34-31 in the NFC Championship game.

Chris Long Joins the Show

Friend of the program Chris Long stopped by to preview Championship Sunday and give some defensive perspective on why the Ravens are so terrifying. He highlighted guys like Justin Madubuike and Kyle Hamilton who don't always get the national spotlight but are wrecking game plans weekly.

Void
Jan 24, 2024
#21647
Chris LongChris Long

Justin Madubuike should have been in the Defensive Player of the Year conversation for his performance with the Ravens

Justin Madubuike... that guy should have been in the conversation for defensive player of the year and he's just this kinda like short nondescript defensive tackle that doesn't have a big name and he's just taken it over.

Awards conversations are subjective, though Madubuike did finish 9th in the voting that year.

When the conversation turned to the Bills' latest heartbreak, Chris Long wasn't interested in the Josh Allen slander. He pointed out that Allen’s postseason numbers are elite and the blame lies more with defensive injuries and a lack of depth in the receiving room. He even offered a radical solution for Buffalo's persistent "Chiefs problem."

Void
Jan 24, 2024
#6882
Chris LongChris Long

The Buffalo Bills should fix their problems by moving to the NFC

Move the team to the NFC. Like on like it is dicey with the cap... You bring up a great point and obviously like digs his, his issues down the stretch... But move the team to the NFC.

The Bills cannot literally change conferences, making this a satirical solution to their competitive roadblocks.

The Brock Purdy discourse reached a fever pitch as well. Chris Long tried to find the middle ground between the "elite" truthers and the "system quarterback" haters, landing on a more corporate-friendly title for the Niners' signal-caller.

Void
Jan 24, 2024
#6884
Chris LongChris Long

Brock Purdy is a fringe top-10 quarterback, not in the elite tier yet

For me to not call Jalen Hurts one of the top five to six quarterbacks in the league, we've gotten so emotional... long story short, I think Purdy deserves a lot of credit. I think he's a fringe top 10 guy wherever you wanna put him on the, you know, on the inside of that top 10. On the outside of the top 10.

Purely subjective ranking of NFL quarterbacks.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Listener FAQs

Hot Seat/Cool Throne featured a deep dive into Tristan Thompson's suspension, where Hank revealed some inside info from Billy Football regarding the specific... quality... of the substances involved.

Win
HankHank

Tristan Thompson took cheap steroids intended for physical appearance rather than performance

Tristan Thompson... Got busted for steroids... I went immediately to my number one source of steroids in the world that I know named Billy Football. And he said the craziest thing is that he was taking Broke Boys steroids. Oh. Stuff Frat Boys and Talkers used to bulk up... He was doing it for the look, not for the functionality.

Thompson was suspended for 25 games for testing positive for ibutamoren and SARM LGD-4033, which are often categorized exactly as Hank described.

Hank also spent some time defending the basic fundamentals of the game, specifically the coin toss. After seeing teams choose to receive and immediately go three-and-out, he’s more convinced than ever that Belichick’s way is the only way.

Void
HankHank

You must always defer the coin toss if you win it

Why would you not defer, why would you not get the ball back to, to start the second half? I just assumed that was like a, a cardinal fundamental rule. And then when you look at the stats... I think you should just defer every time.

While mathematically sound, it is a strategic preference, not a literal fact that can be 'correct'.

To wrap things up, the guys hit some listener FAQs, including a trip down memory lane regarding early guests who "got" the show. They reminisced about the first time they realized Joe Buck was in on the joke and the early days of Grit Weeks when they still thought renting fan boats was a viable mode of transportation.

One thing is for sure: Big Cat and Max are fully committed to the gym life now, even if it means dodging the free office lunches to maintain their status as weapons.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Lifting weights is significantly more effective for getting in shape than cardio

It's crazy how don don't know when we learned this as like kids what point we're like, oh yeah, to get in shape you gotta run. That's so wrong. Like cardio. Okay, fine... Dude. Lifting weights is the best way to get in shape. 'cause you just feel stronger and you start, your metabolism goes, it feels good.

General fitness consensus supports a mix, but lifting's impact on metabolism is widely verified.

If the Sixers actually win it all, prepare for the wettest podcast in history.

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More Takes

Win
Jan 24, 2024
#6861
HankHank

If the Celtics stay healthy, they will win the championship this year

I've said it the whole year. If, if this team is healthy in the Playoffs, they'll win the Championship. Chris Saps has been an amazing addition... Just gotta stay healthy.

The Celtics dominated the 2023-24 season and won the NBA Finals in 5 games over the Mavericks.
Loss
Jan 24, 2024
#6868
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill Belichick to the Buffalo Bills would be a perfect fit

Now it does feel like Belichick is gonna go to the Falcons, but Rex Ryan threw something out yesterday that I kind of, I don't hate Belichick to the bills. It actually, it makes sense. I think it makes for a team that wants to win right now.

Belichick did not join the Bills; he ended up as a media analyst for the 2024 season.
Void
Jan 24, 2024
#21645
MaxMax

Reports from the Philadelphia media about Jalen Hurts being a 'diva' or standoffish are disgusting fabrications

There's been bullshit coming out of the media from the Eagles all year. So it's all a bunch of crap. Everyone knows the Eagles gets clicks right now, so they're making stuff up or they're fabricat—or they're embellishing what is going on in that Eagles locker room and it's disgusting.

Claims about locker room chemistry and personality are subjective and cannot be definitively proven true or false.
Win
Big CatBig Cat

I am officially in on the Bears drafting Caleb Williams and trading Justin Fields

The Bears take Caleb Williams. Yes. Number one. I'm in. I'm also officially in. I just wanna say that I'm, I've, I've done a lot of soul searching. I, especially the Mel—Mel's like, oh, we can get a first for Justin Fields. Let's just do it.

The Bears did exactly this: they traded Fields and drafted Williams at #1 overall in the 2024 NFL Draft.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Steph Curry belongs in the NBA GOAT conversation (or at least the 'Go-cart')

I put Steph Curry up there. He's in the Go-cart. I'm putting Steph Curry in the GOAT conversation right now.

Whether a player belongs in the GOAT conversation is entirely a matter of subjective opinion.
Win
Jan 24, 2024
#6880
Chris LongChris Long

Josh Allen is not the reason the Bills are losing in the playoffs

I hate the fact that we gotta hear the takes again as if like QB wins is a stat anyways. But on top of it, the teams that he's lost to for the most part in the Playoffs have been the chiefs and, and Joe Burrow... the guy has, he, he is got a hundred rating for his career in the postseason. He has 21 touchdowns for interceptions. He's not the reason they're losing these games.

Postseason stats for Allen are historically elite; the take argues against narrative-driven criticism.
Void
Jan 24, 2024
#21648
Chris LongChris Long

The Kansas City Chiefs play roughly 10-15% better in the playoffs than they do during the regular season

Kansas City has played 10 to 15% better in the Playoffs. Like a lot of teams do. They just figure out ways to turn it on.

While 10-15% is a specific but hard-to-measure number, the spirit of the take is a subjective analysis of the Chiefs' postseason pedigree.
Void
Jan 24, 2024
#21649
Chris LongChris Long

Sam LaPorta and George Kittle are currently the two best tight ends in the NFL

LaPorta, you know, with no disrespect to anybody who's been doing it at a high level longer... there's gonna be a discussion over the next couple years of who's the best tight end in the league. And I feel like at this point, like he's in line—to him and Kittle. When you look at the whole package: blocking, receiving.

Ranking players is a matter of opinion.
Void
Jan 24, 2024
#6885
Chris LongChris Long

NFL teams should always hire offensive play-callers as head coaches to ensure continuity

What makes me nervous about defensive head coaches is inevitably when your rookie quarterback or your unproven quarterback has success, you're gonna lose that play caller... I would go with an offensive play caller. 'cause that's what I look around and see.

This is a widespread philosophy in modern NFL team building, though subjective.
Void
Jan 24, 2024
#21650
Chris LongChris Long

The Panthers coaching job is the worst opening in the league because David Tepper has made it a toxic situation

Panthers are last. You're, you're already, you've already, you've got this owner who showed his ass and if he's not going anywhere, that's a big part of the conversation... it's incredible to me that somebody could fuck up the viability of the job that you're trying to fill so badly.

The quality of a job opening is inherently subjective.
Void
Jan 24, 2024
#21651
Chris LongChris Long

Seattle is one of the best head coaching openings in the NFL because of GM John Schneider

I think Seattle's a great job man. I really do... they got a really good GM. That's something people ignore. Having Schneider. That's the situation. Walk into and be like, yeah, that guy can, he can pick 'em.

Job ranking is subjective.
Void
Jan 24, 2024
#21652
Chris LongChris Long

Having a third child is the moment where you officially have to give up on all your 'fringe' enjoyable activities or time-wasting

The third kid is where you really put some of your fringe enjoyable activities in the casket. You don't realize it, but all the little shit that you used to do to waste time, you just don't waste any more time. There's no more time to waste.

This is a personal observation about lifestyle changes in parenting.

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