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Wednesday, October 25, 201716 takes

The death of Barstool Van Talk. The guys talk about what went wrong with their ESPN2 show that was cancelled on Monday night. What they would have done differently and what the future holds ( - ). NBC Sports Dan Patrick joined the show as the second and last guest of Barstool Van Talk. We talked about his career at ESPN and pitched him bad Adam Sandler movies that we think should be greenlit ( - ). Segments include Talking Baseball, Uhh Ya Think for Markelle Fultz's injury, bad sports town for Austin Texas, and Guys on Chicks.

Dan Patrick on ESPN's Past and the Demise of Barstool Van Talk

It has been a week of extreme highs and devastating lows. After launching Barstool Van Talk on ESPN2, the show was abruptly canceled after just one episode. Big Cat and PFT opened the show with a serious, albeit still funny, breakdown of the internal politics that led to the plug being pulled. While there is plenty of heartbreak and frustration to go around, the guys aren't looking for a pity party. They addressed the name change and the mismanagement that happened from the jump.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The TV show should have remained titled Pardon My Take rather than changing it to Barstool Van Talk

I was against the name change. I thought [Pardon My Take] made sense from a branding standpoint from what we've built right here to bring our audience over to television. I thought it made all the sense in the world to keep the show's name as [Pardon My Take].

The show was canceled after one episode, making the branding argument somewhat moot, but the name change did lead to the specific targeting by critics that ended the show.

Big Cat was particularly transparent about the controversy, acknowledging past mistakes while also calling out the internal pressure at ESPN that made the show a target before it even had a chance to breathe.

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Big CatBig Cat

ESPN mismanaged the Barstool deal by putting the show on the air when they knew they couldn't handle the internal pressure

I really wish ESPN had stood tall on it because I think it was shitty that they put us on, and then they basically took us off. When they knew that this all could come brewing, they should have just never put us on to begin with. It was mismanaged from the beginning.

It is widely accepted in sports media analysis that the partnership was doomed by a lack of internal consensus at ESPN.

Despite the noise on social media and the attempt by some to use old comments as a weapon, the focus remains on the work put in over the last five years and the audience that actually knows the show.

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Big CatBig Cat

I stand by the totality of my work despite previous offensive comments used to cancel the show

I've said many things that I'm sure if you showed to me today, I'd be like, eh, probably not the best. But I think more than anything, more than like one tweet or one word you said, you should be judged by the totality of everything you've done. And I will stand by everything I've done at Barstool. I'll stand by the platform that it's given me. I'll stand by the audience that I've built.

This is an internal moral and professional stance that cannot be factually proven true or false.

Dan Patrick in Vanny Woodhead

In a bit of poetic timing, the guest for the "lost" second episode was none other than Dan Patrick. The broadcasting legend hopped into Vanny Woodhead to talk about his own departure from the mothership and how he built his own empire. PFT immediately hit him with the "gotcha" questions, specifically why he uses an alias instead of his birth name, Dan Pugh.

They got into the weeds on sports history, specifically the Baseball Hall of Fame. Dan Patrick didn't mince words when it came to Charlie Hustle.

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Oct 25, 2017
#11296
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

Pete Rose belongs in the Baseball Hall of Fame as a player

As a baseball player, put him in the Hall of Fame. Don't let him hold a job. That's it. If you cheat in grad school, I don't take away from your undergrad degree. And that's the way I look at it with Pete. He did something wrong as a manager. Now, if you can prove he bet as a player, then I wouldn't put him in the Hall of Fame.

Pete Rose remains banned from the Hall of Fame as of 2024, despite widespread public support for his induction.

Beyond the serious sports talk, Dan Patrick leaned into the PMT humor, pitching bad Adam Sandler movie ideas like "Boner Dogs" and "This Is Farty." He also took a moment to reflect on the man who built the foundation of SportsCenter highlights, Chris Berman.

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Oct 25, 2017
#23930
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

Chris Berman was the greatest highlight broadcaster in history and the foundation of ESPN

[Chris] Berman was the best highlight guy at what he did when he did it. It was revolutionary, controversial, and the fact that he had the guts to do it and continue to do it. You can't build ESPN without him.

Before letting him out of the van, Dan Patrick dropped a bit of a bombshell regarding his own future in the industry and when he might finally hang up the headphones for good.

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Oct 25, 2017
#11298
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

I will likely retire from the radio show within the next five years

Three or four. Five, maybe. Maybe five. I don't know. Maybe six. No. No more than five more years.

Incorrect. Patrick did not retire within five years; as of 2024, he is still actively hosting The Dan Patrick Show and recently signed a multi-year extension.

Talking Baseball and Bad Sports Towns

Life moves on even when your TV show doesn't, which means the World Series and the NFL season are still rolling. Big Cat had to issue a public apology to a certain Dodgers pitcher who finally decided to show up when it mattered most.

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Oct 25, 2017
#11299
Big CatBig Cat

Playoff Kershaw is no longer a real thing and I was wrong to mock him

Clayton Kershaw, Playoff Kershaw is no longer a thing. It sucks. I love to laugh at Clayton Kershaw every October when someone would put a moonshot three rows up. It sucks that we can't make fun of Clayton Kershaw anymore.

Kershaw's playoff struggles returned in later years, notably in Game 5 of this very World Series and several future postseasons, meaning the 'Playoff Kershaw' narrative was far from dead.

Meanwhile, in Bad Sports Town, PFT took aim at Austin, Texas. While it's a great place to visit, the attempt to lure an original MLS franchise away from its home base didn't sit right with the guys.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Austin, Texas is a bad sports town for trying to steal the Columbus Crew

Austin, Texas. Bad sports town... they are currently in the midst of cucking the Columbus Crew. They're trying to steal the Crew, which is a Talking Soccer. They're trying to steal an MLS team and bring them down to Austin, Texas.

The Crew was eventually saved and Austin was granted an expansion team (Austin FC), which satisfied both fanbases.

Guys on Chicks and Survival Instincts

To wrap up the show, the guys took some listener questions that touched on everything from group bathroom trips to the secret to attraction. According to Big Cat, if you want to look like a catch, you just need to prove you can maintain the basic functions of life for a domesticated creature.

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Big CatBig Cat

The presence of a dog makes a man significantly more attractive by proving he can keep something alive

[A dog] shows that we can keep another thing alive. It's the paternal instinct. You look at that and you're like, that guy would be a good dad because he's holding an animal and the animal isn't dead yet.

PFT also shared his specialized knowledge on the best way to set the mood, and it doesn't involve expensive seafood.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Road trip snacks like beef jerky and Mountain Dew are superior aphrodisiacs to oysters

Road trip food is the natural aphrodisiac. Get oysters the hell out of here. Give me like that weird salted trail [mix], maybe some Twizzlers, Slim Jims. ... If I smell, when [a woman] walks to the door with a cracker crust peanut butter combo on her breath, I know it's on.

We might be done on the deuce, but we’re just getting started on the podcast.

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More Takes

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Oct 25, 2017
#23929
Big CatBig Cat

No one ever wins an internet fight

No one wins an internet fight. And no one knows what they're talking about. No, no one ever wins an internet fight. I've learned that. I've gotten in many internet fights. I've gotten in internet fights I regret over and over. No one wins an internet fight.

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Oct 25, 2017
#11297
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

I would have easily beaten Skip Bayless in a game of one-on-one basketball

[Skip Bayless] is in good shape. But if we're shooting, then I would steal his lunch money. I would have lit up Skip Bayless.

This matchup never happened and likely never will, making it impossible to verify.
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Oct 25, 2017
#23931
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

It is rarely beneficial for public figures to read their mentions on Twitter

I never knew where to listen to [the haters]. No, I couldn't care less. ... It's rarely good when you go on Twitter or you listen to those people.

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Oct 25, 2017
#11300
Big CatBig Cat

Carson Wentz is actually a good quarterback and I was wrong about him

And my other one is Carson Wentz. He's fucking good. And I, for a long time, said he sucked.

In 2017, this was very correct as Wentz led the Eagles to an 11-2 start before getting injured. However, his career took a significant downturn after 2019.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Pardon My Take broke the news that the Sixers' first pick would be injured before the draft even happened

I think we reported this news first. We broke this news the day before the NBA draft saying that the Philadelphia 76ers' first pick was going to be injured at some point this season. Credit to us. First reported by [Pardon My Take].

The 76ers did indeed have a long history of high draft picks getting injured (Embiid, Simmons, Noel), and Markelle Fultz did miss most of his rookie season with a mysterious shoulder injury.
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Big CatBig Cat

Relationships are doomed to fail if one person transfers schools specifically for the other

Your other mistake is transferring schools because anyone who ever transfers for a relationship, that relationship immediately breaks up. That doesn't last.


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