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Dave Dameshek 09/12/16

Monday, September 12, 201613 takes

The first NFL Sunday has finally arrived and the guys are ready to recap all the action as well as Larry The Goldfish's triumphant 3-0 gambling start ( - ). Football guy of the week is awarded and Roger Goodell talks concussions ( - ). Dave Dameshek from the NFL Network joins the show to talk Week 1, fantasy football, and what it was like working on the Man Show with Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel( - ). Segments include "Thoughts and Prayers" to baseball, "As a white guy", "Uhhh Ya Think", "Sabermetrics" for Jack Del Rio's ballsy move, and PR 101 for the American Flag.

Dave Dameshek on The Man Show, Week 1 Overreactions, and Mustard Rankings

NFL Sunday is officially back, and the energy in the room is at a fever pitch after a slate of games that saw everything from ballsy two-point conversions to the Browns being exactly who we thought they were. Big Cat and PFT are already in mid-season form with the overreactions, and Larry the Goldfish is currently the greatest gambler on the planet after starting the year 3-0 against the spread. If you haven't bought a Larry shirt yet, you're basically allergic to money.

Week 1 Overreactions and Poise

The guys wasted no time crownining the next generation of legends. Big Cat is already planning the parade in Philadelphia after seeing Carson Wentz tear apart a Browns team that barely qualifies as a professional organization. It’s all about the poise, and Wentz apparently has it leaking out of his ears.

Loss
Sep 12, 2016
#17545
Big CatBig Cat

Carson Wentz is the real deal and will break the Philly Super Bowl curse

Carson Wentz, the real deal. No way is this going to backfire, Philly. He is one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen. Poise out of his eyeball. Hey, Philly, your Super Bowl curse, you're Gucci. You're Gucci, bro. You're breaking that, buddy.

Wentz eventually helped the Eagles to a Super Bowl-caliber season in 2017 (though Foles finished it), but he wasn't one of the 'best quarterbacks ever seen' and the take was delivered as a joke.

While the hype builds in Philly, PFT has a contrarian view on the situation in Minnesota. After watching Shaun Hill manage a win through grit and a lack of flashy mistakes, he's convinced the Vikings might have accidentally stumbled into an upgrade by losing their franchise guy.

Loss
Sep 12, 2016
#17546
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Vikings are actually better without Teddy Bridgewater

I think the Vikings are actually better without Teddy Bridgewater. They have a guy now that can get the job done. Sean Hill, he's a gamer... he's a guy that can win a game for you.

While the 2016 Vikings started 5-0, they finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs. Sean Hill was quickly replaced by Sam Bradford as the primary starter.

Then there’s the Matthew Stafford situation. With Calvin Johnson retired, PFT believes Stafford is finally free to be the quarterback he was always meant to be, spreading the ball around like a man who no longer has to force-feed a Hall of Famer every play.

Push
Sep 12, 2016
#17551
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Lions are better without Calvin Johnson because Matthew Stafford can spread the ball around

Is this the year that Matt Stafford finally makes the leap? I'm going to say yes. Calvin Johnson was holding him back. Better without Calvin Johnson. He can spread the ball around.

The 2016 Lions actually finished with more wins (9) than in 2015 (7) and Stafford had one of his most efficient seasons, giving some weird merit to this hot take.

Big Cat also began his long-term campaign to manifest a new quarterback for his Chicago Bears. Every time Jimmy Garoppolo made a play for the Patriots, the "Future Bears Quarterback" drumbeat grew louder. It's the Trump strategy: if you say it enough times, it becomes reality.

Loss
Sep 12, 2016
#17548
Big CatBig Cat

Jimmy Garoppolo is the future quarterback of the Chicago Bears

Future Bear quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo. If you say it enough, people are going to start getting it in their head... Jimmy Garoppolo from Illinois, Eastern Illinois product. Bears.

Garoppolo was traded to the 49ers and later played for the Raiders and Rams, but never the Bears.

Dave Dameshek Joins the Show

Friend of the program Dave Dameshek joined the show to discuss everything from his new NFL Network show *Fantasy and Friends* to his time writing for *The Man Show*. He shared a truly vivid story about Adam Carolla’s morning routine involving a coffee pot and a windowsill that will make you rethink your morning brew.

Before getting into football, Dameshek decided to twist the knife into Big Cat’s Chicago sports anxiety by declaring the 2016 World Series already over.

Win
Sep 12, 2016
#17552
Dave DameshekDave Dameshek

The Chicago Cubs will win the 2016 World Series

I'm happy for you that in about a month from now, you're going to be celebrating a world's championship on the north side... It's impossible to fathom you guys not getting to the World Series. And then from there, momentum will carry you through.

The Cubs famously won the 2016 World Series, breaking their 108-year drought.

When it comes to the actual gridiron, Dameshek isn't buying the hype on certain AFC North staples. He thinks the Ravens are living on a reputation that their current roster can't back up, and he’s already putting a ceiling on the Blake Bortles experience in Jacksonville.

Win
Sep 12, 2016
#22207
Dave DameshekDave Dameshek

The Baltimore Ravens are not actually a good football team

The Ravens, people think the Ravens are going to be good because they're called the Baltimore Ravens, and so people assume that they're going to be good more often than not. But there's no reason to think that they're an actually good team.

The 2016 Ravens finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs, supporting Dameshek's claim that they weren't 'good' that year.
Loss
Sep 12, 2016
#17554
Dave DameshekDave Dameshek

The Jaguars will go 8-8 this year

Everybody declared that the book reader Blake Bortles was ready to turn the corner and so on. But the fact their offensive line is bad, and I think they go 8-8 this year.

The 2016 Jaguars were much worse than 8-8, finishing the season with a 3-13 record.

As a certified Doctor of Mustard, Dameshek also took some time to educate the guys on condiment hierarchy. He has a deep-seated hatred for yellow mustard and a grim outlook for the future of honey mustard, comparing it to the rise and fall of the sun-dried tomato.

Void
Sep 12, 2016
#17556
Dave DameshekDave Dameshek

Dark mustard is superior to yellow mustard in every single situation

I don't think there is any situation that yellow mustard is better than dark mustard... Why, under what circumstance would you say? No, no, hold the dark. I'll take the yellow.

Taste is subjective, but Dameshek presents it as an absolute fact of life.
Loss
Sep 12, 2016
#17559
Dave DameshekDave Dameshek

Honey mustard will eventually go the way of the sun-dried tomato

Honey mustard... I feel that it likely is going to ultimately go the way of the sun-dried tomato... Sun-dried tomato had about half a dozen years at the top... then just vanished. Honey mustard, it's fine it's here now, but I won't miss it when it's gone tomorrow.

Honey mustard remains a standard condiment in restaurants and grocery stores years after this take was made.

Thoughts, Prayers, and Asterisks

The segments were firing on all cylinders. Thoughts and Prayers were sent to the game of baseball after Rich Hill was pulled from a perfect game due to "heat on his finger." Big Cat is convinced this is the moment the sport officially lost its soul.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Baseball was officially neutered when Rich Hill was pulled from a perfect game

September 10th, 2016, the day baseball was officially neutered. RIP... He was pulled during a perfect game because he had 'heat on his finger,' which is a sign of blisters... the point of baseball is to pitch perfect games, not to keep people healthy.

Rich Hill was indeed pulled from a perfect game after 7 innings due to blister concerns, sparking a major debate. Whether the sport was 'neutered' is a subjective matter of opinion.

In Uhhh Ya Think, the guys looked at the unfortunate return of the RG3 injury cycle. PFT pointed out that Griffin’s unique anatomy makes his trips to the blue tent more of a slapstick comedy routine than a tragedy.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Robert Griffin III looks hilarious when he gets injured

I'm just going to say it... Robert Griffin looks hilarious when he gets injured. The dude is like, he's all arms and legs. He looks like Stretch Armstrong. Even when he's not getting injured, he looks like he's about to get injured. His body is shaped like an asterisk.

This is a subjective observation of RG3's running and falling style.

Finally, the show wrapped up with Respect the Biz for CM Punk’s disastrous UFC debut. Big Cat noted that for someone who trained for two years, getting treated like a little brother in a wrestling match isn't a great look for the brand.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

CM Punk's MMA debut looked like a big brother beating up a little brother

He got beat so badly... He got tackled and then was just kind of flailing on the ground while the guy just punched him in the face. It was all of like a big brother jumping on a little brother and then hitting the little brother with his own fists. That's what it looked like.

The description is accurate; Mickey Gall dominated CM Punk, winning via submission in just 2:14 of the first round after a one-sided beatdown.

If Larry the Goldfish goes 5-0 this week, we are all moving to Mexico and never looking back.

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More Takes

Void
Sep 12, 2016
#20159
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Retired the Flacco meter after Donald Trump addressed Flacco's eliteness — where else can it go from there?

I did retire the Flacco meter last year because once Donald Trump addressed [Joe] Flacco's eliteness, it's like, where else can it go from here? But every now and again, you need to kind of check in on it.

Meta-commentary on the Flacco elite debate reaching its peak when Trump weighed in. The Flacco meter was not actually retired — PFT continued discussing it for years.

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