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Derek Carr, Open Championship W/ Shane Bacon + Mt Rushmore Of TV Shows/Movies We’ve Never Seen

Wednesday, July 17, 202420 takes

It’s the slowest day in the sports year and we choose our adventure for the MLB All Star Game (-). We get mad about an ESPN list (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Jaylen Brown talking about Bronny and Duggs may be in trouble (-). Mt Rushmore of TV Shows/Movies we’ve never seen (-). Saints QB Derek Carr joins the show to talk about his career, watching his brother play in the NFL, Antonio Brown, New Orleans, whether he wears Mascara and tons more (-). Shane Bacon joins us to preview this weekends final Major, the Open Championship at Royal Troon (-). We then finish with Guys on Chicks (-).

Derek Carr, Shane Bacon, and the Mount Rushmore of Blind Spots

The sports calendar is officially in its deadest week, which naturally means Big Cat and PFT are finding ways to get mad at ESPN and the Home Run Derby. Big Cat is ready to declare the Derby dead after the Ingrid Andress national anthem performance stole the show for all the wrong reasons. While the guys looked for ways to fix the Midsummer Classic, PFT suggested a high-stakes incentive for the league's biggest offenders.

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Jul 17, 2024
#19013
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The MLB should allow players suspended for steroids back early if they win the Home Run Derby

Our idea that we had last year was one of the best, which is if you test positive for steroids, you can get out of your suspension by winning the Home Run Derby.

The MLB has not implemented a policy where steroids users can commute their suspension through Home Run Derby victory.

This led into a deep dive on ESPN's recent Top 100 Athletes of the 21st century list, which seemed specifically designed to trigger hockey fans by putting Alex Ovechkin at 54. PFT wasn't buying it, noting that the ranking is a slap in the face to the man about to break the most hallowed record in hockey.

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Jul 17, 2024
#19015
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Alex Ovechkin being ranked 54th on ESPN's Top 100 Athletes list is disrespectful to hockey

That Ovy [Alex Ovechkin] is so far down. Like Hank said, it's disrespectful to hockey, it's disrespectful to the entire country of Russia. The man is about to surpass Wayne Gretzky for the top goal scorer of all time in the NHL.

This is a subjective ranking debate, though the facts about his pursuit of Gretzky are true.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank’s Hot Seat this week is Jalen Brown, but mostly for his lip-reading cameo during a Summer League game where he appeared to tell his girlfriend that Bronny James isn't a pro. PFT agreed with the sentiment, even if it’s a harsh truth for a guy currently collecting NBA checks.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bronny James is not currently a professional-level basketball player.

The way that he said, 'I don't think Bronny's a pro' isn't that bad for [Jalen Brown] because it's also not wrong. He's not a pro. Which is probably an accurate [statement].

Subjective evaluation of talent, though summer league and early season stats can provide data.

Big Cat took it a step further, arguing that the only reason we are even talking about a second-round pick in July is because LeBron is obsessed with his own legacy.

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Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James only brought Bronny into the NBA to bolster his GOAT case against Michael Jordan

Some people could argue that LeBron, when he realized that he wasn't going to win six titles and match MJ, he's like, 'what else can I try to get that will, they'll say in my GOAT conversation' and having Bronny—playing with Bronny—will be there. MJ's son never played in the league.

The motivation of LeBron James is inherently subjective and cannot be definitively proven.

Meanwhile, the guys discussed the existential dread of Victor Hovland, who has apparently been spending his pre-Open Championship prep questioning what happens to the human soul after death. Big Cat has a much more grounded, albeit grosser, theory on our ultimate fate.

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Big CatBig Cat

Human beings just become worms after they die

I think what happens after you die is you get eaten by worms. We all just become worms.

The metaphysical outcome of death is not verifiable.

Mount Rushmore of Movies/TV We’ve Never Seen

This was the most embarrassing segment in show history. Big Cat admitted he has never seen a single Star Wars movie or a second of The Fast and the Furious franchise. Max shocked everyone by admitting he has never seen The Simpsons, prompting PFT to defend the Golden Age of Springfield.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Seasons three through eight of The Simpsons are the best television ever made.

I think Seasons three through eight on The Simpsons are the best TV ever made.

Inherently subjective assessment of television quality.

Other massive blind spots included PFT never seeing The Godfather or any Marvel movie besides Black Panther, and Hank admitting he has never seen South Park or The Matrix. It was a staggering display of cultural illiteracy that somehow made perfect sense for this group.

Derek Carr on the Saints and AB

New Orleans Saints QB Derek Carr joined the show for a surprisingly candid interview. He addressed the "mascara" rumors (it’s just dark eyelashes, people) and talked about the trauma of watching his brother David get sacked into oblivion during the early Houston Texans years.

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Jul 17, 2024
#25042
Derek CarrDerek Carr

My brother David Carr is way more talented than I am.

I go back and I'm like, dude, like [David Carr] is way more talented than I am. He's 240, you know, runs a 4.6, throws the ball 85 yards. Like genius smart... he never felt football like [New York] since college. Of course you think, man, what if he was in a different situation?

Subjective comparison of talent versus production.

Carr also shared some incredible stories from his time with Antonio Brown in Oakland. While the media focus was on the hot air balloons and frozen feet, Carr remembered a guy who was actually the hardest worker in the building when the cameras weren't rolling.

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Jul 17, 2024
#25044
Derek CarrDerek Carr

Antonio Brown is the hardest practicing player I've ever seen in my life.

I loved AB. He is the hardest practicing player I've ever seen in my life. He practices hard. He competes at just a different level. And you know, hopefully he's a hall of famer. As a player, he's insane.

Subjective 'eye test' from a professional quarterback.

He also gave massive props to his current teammates, specifically Taysom Hill, whom he considers a lock for Canton regardless of what the traditional stat sheets say.

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Jul 17, 2024
#19021
Derek CarrDerek Carr

Taysom Hill is a Hall of Fame football player

Taysom Hill is the best football player I've ever played with... that man is a Hall of Fame football player. He does everything. Throws, runs, catches, fullback, quarterback, tight end, receiver, slots, punts, blocks, punts, personal protector.

This is a subjective projection of a player's legacy, though standard HOF metrics likely wouldn't favor Hill.

The Open Championship Preview with Shane Bacon

Friend of the program Shane Bacon stopped by to preview Royal Troon and explain why the Open Championship is the most unpredictable major of them all. He broke it down in terms even a football fan could understand, comparing the links style to a classic December matchup in Green Bay.

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Jul 17, 2024
#19023
Shane BaconShane Bacon

The Open Championship is essentially a 'Snow Game' in football terms

The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball, maybe you gotta run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here.

This is an interpretive analogy that helps explain the volatility of the event.

Bacon expects the wind to be a major factor and highlighted a few veterans who could navigate the "gorse" and the "postage stamp" green. When it came down to a winner, he’s looking at a 44-year-old veteran to finally get his second major.

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Jul 17, 2024
#19022
Shane BaconShane Bacon

Adam Scott will win the 2024 Open Championship

I'm going to Adam Scott. He played well last week... He's 44 years old finishing in the top 10. Hasn't finished in the top 10 in a major since 2019. But I feel like he's one of those guys... I feel like Adam is playing well.

Adam Scott tied for 10th. Xander Schauffele won the 2024 Open Championship.

At least now we know if the Saints season goes south, Derek Carr can always fall back on his burgeoning golf career.

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Jul 17, 2024
#19012
Big CatBig Cat

The Home Run Derby is officially dead

The Home Run Derby is officially dead. And here's why... the Home Run Derby has lost its luster. The Juice Ball Home Run Derby. The way the format was set, the Home Run Derby is dead because all it took was one horrific national anthem to steal the night.

This is a subjective opinion on the cultural relevance of the event.
Win
Jul 17, 2024
#19014
Big CatBig Cat

Tarik Skubal will win the AL Cy Young

Tarik Skubal is not starting [the All-Star Game]. And he is going to be the AL Cy Young as that guy sent me the envelope... per the guy who gave me the envelope that said bet him right now. He is the odds-on favorite right now.

Tarik Skubal won the 2024 AL Cy Young award in a unanimous vote.
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Jul 17, 2024
#19016
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

ESPN will rank Serena Williams as the #1 athlete of the 21st century

I have a prediction. I think ESPN is going to put Serena [Williams] number one. Just to make people mad.

Serena Williams was ranked #2. Michael Phelps was ranked #1.
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Jul 17, 2024
#25037
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The world would be better if George W. Bush had become Commissioner of Major League Baseball.

If George W. Bush had become commissioner of Major League baseball, the world would be so much better. Baseball would be so much better. Say what you want about the man, the fucking All-Star game's not ending in a tie with George W. Bush.

This is an inherently unverifiable historical 'what-if' scenario.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Stephen A. Smith officially won the Skip Bayless divorce

Stephen A. Smith has won the Skip Bayless-Stephen A. Smith divorce. It took a few years to get there... Skip is out at Fox Sports I believe at the end of the summer... he goes off, does his own podcast, gets 5 trillion views on it. Works for ESPN, seems to be having a good time.

Based on viewership and contractual status as of late 2024, Stephen A. Smith remains the preeminent figure in sports media while Skip Bayless left his daily FS1 show.
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Big CatBig Cat

The Big 10 and SEC are likely to add Florida State once the ACC officially dissolves.

If Clemson and Florida State leave the ACC, they're not gonna survive. So the Big 10 and SEC basically are saying we don't want 'em unless the ACC is gone. Which if they leave, they'll be gone. In which case we want 'em.

The ACC has not dissolved yet and Florida State is still currently in the conference.
Loss
Jul 17, 2024
#25041
Derek CarrDerek Carr

I expect to finish in the top 10 of the American Century Championship golf tournament.

Expectation top 10. That's expectation I've got. I've gotten better every year. Top 20 last year... hopefully top 10 and then try and, you know, if you got a chance on the last day, go and win it.

Derek Carr finished tied for 17th in the 2024 American Century Championship, missing his top 10 goal.
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Jul 17, 2024
#25043
Derek CarrDerek Carr

Jameis Winston is a great player who doesn't get enough credit for how good he is.

The one thing I love about Jameis is he doesn't get enough credit for just how good of a player he is. Because he is hilarious, he's a funny teammate, he has all the sound bites... but he's a great player.

Subjective evaluation of credit and talent.
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Jul 17, 2024
#19020
Derek CarrDerek Carr

I make up fake stories to motivate myself like Michael Jordan did.

My caddy who was my best friend, he is like, 'you're a psychopath.' Because like, I'll make stories up. I see Jordan do that. He's like, I make stories up. Like yeah, they thought I couldn't do this... those are two plays... that fuel you.

Self-reported psychological tactic.

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