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Forrest Gump Writer Eric Roth, NFL Power Rankings, Mt Rushmore Of Why We Love Dogs

Wednesday, June 3, 202022 takes

We're back in studio, quick message off the top to keep listening to each other. We get back into sports and get mad at Peter King's NFL power rankings. (-) Baseball maybe back? (-) Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Lenny Dykstra and Dan Bilzerian being the greatest philosopher of our time. (-) Forrest Gump Writer and Oscar Winner Eric Roth joins the show to talk about writing movies, Hollywood, horse racing and spending time with Muhammad Ali. (-) Mt Rushmore of things we love about dogs (-) and guys on chicks. (-)

Eric Roth on Forrest Gump, Peter King’s Rankings, and Dog Mt. Rushmore

Big Cat and PFT are back in the studio, and they’ve reached that mid-summer point where sports rankings become the primary source of life-sustaining oxygen. Peter King dropped his NFL power rankings, and his placement of certain teams had the guys questioning if he’s eating his Thai food a little too mild these days. The Bucs coming in at five raised some eyebrows, but Big Cat sees the vision given their defensive foundation.

Win
Jun 3, 2020
#18407
Big CatBig Cat

The Buccaneers at number five is fine because they already had a decent core and a good defense

I'm actually okay with the Bucs being five because the Bucs... they had the core of a decent team last year. They just had a quarterback that threw 30 interceptions... And they had a pretty good defense, too.

The Buccaneers won the Super Bowl this season, proving the high ranking was actually too low, if anything.

PFT thinks the national conversation is missing a key piece of that Tampa Bay offense that doesn't involve the elderly newcomers.

Loss
Jun 3, 2020
#18408
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Buccaneers' rushing attack is underrated

I also think that the running game in Tampa is underrated... so many people are talking about Tom Brady and Gronk and Mike Evans that no one's talking about Barber and the rushing attack that they had, which was pretty effective.

Peyton Barber was not on the team in 2020. The Bucs finished 28th in rushing yards per game in 2020, so the ground game wasn't actually a strength.

The guys also noted a distinct correlation between Peter King’s rankings and the accessibility of certain NFL figures. It’s a classic media move: you play the hits for the guys who actually answer the phone.

Void
Jun 3, 2020
#18409
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Peter King's power rankings are influenced by which coaches and quarterbacks return his phone calls

Once you get out of the top five, you can tell which coaches and quarterbacks return Peter King's calls. Because that's also why Tom Brady's up there is because he calls him back.

Subjective claim about a journalist's process.

NFL Power Rankings and Baseball Hopes

Moving further down the list, the disrespect toward the Buffalo Bills was palpable. Big Cat is already planting his flag in Western New York for the upcoming season.

Win
Jun 3, 2020
#18410
Big CatBig Cat

The Bills should win the AFC East this year

the bills should win the afc east this year

The Buffalo Bills did win the AFC East in 2020 with a 13-3 record.

As for the bottom of the barrel, PFT is keeping a close eye on the desert. With DeAndre Hopkins in town and a second-year Kyler Murray, the Cardinals are positioned to be the trendy pick for every NFL analyst looking for a "smart" dark horse.

Win
Jun 3, 2020
#18411
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cardinals will be everyone's dark horse team this summer

Cardinals, right now, I'm just calling it, they are going to be everyone's dark horse team. Yeah, because it's going to be like they can't be as bad as they were last year, plus year two with a new coach.

The Cardinals were a popular dark horse pick, though they ultimately finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

On the baseball front, MLB owners and players are still bickering over prorated salaries and game counts. While any baseball is better than no baseball, Big Cat is worried that a shortened sprint might not accurately reflect who actually belongs in the postseason.

Void
Jun 3, 2020
#18414
Big CatBig Cat

A 50-game MLB season is too short to weed out the bad teams

I think 50 would be exciting, but it also would be maddening to watch a team... 50 games is tough. 70-80, I think you can weed out. You'll still have a couple teams where you can point to and say there's no way they would have lasted an entire season.

Subjective take on season length, though the MLB eventually played 60 games, which many fans felt was indeed too short for a representative sample.

Eric Roth: The Hollywood Legend

Oscar winner Eric Roth joined the show to discuss his legendary career writing films like Forrest Gump, Ali, and A Star Is Born. Roth, who still writes his scripts in MS-DOS on a program called Movie Master, provided a fascinating look into the mind of a writer who has seen it all. He didn't hold back on his thoughts regarding the original source material for his most famous work.

Void
Jun 3, 2020
#18417
Eric RothEric Roth

The Forrest Gump book is not as good as the movie

I think it's not even close... I think the author is a talented man and I couldn't have imagined it without him. But I think I just took off in my own direction and something spoke to me.

This is a matter of critical and popular consensus; the movie is far more widely acclaimed than the novel.

Roth shared incredible stories about spending time with Muhammad Ali and his college days with Jim Morrison. He even touched on the ill-fated Forrest Gump 2 script that was turned in on September 10, 2001, effectively ending the project before it could start. The sequel would have seen Forrest in the back of the OJ Bronco and inventing the "Wave" at sporting events.

Win
Jun 3, 2020
#18419
Eric RothEric Roth

Forrest Gump 2 will never happen

No, that won't happen. I mean, I'll tell you some things that were in it, but I did write the script and I turned it in on 9-10. The day before 9-11 and Bob and Zemeckis... and Tom Hanks and I sat together and we looked at each other and said, that's the end of this.

Years later, there is still no Forrest Gump 2 and no plans for one.

Beyond the silver screen, Roth is a massive horse racing fan and a degenerate at heart. He spends his mornings losing pick-fives at Gulfstream just like the rest of us. He also dropped a surprising nugget about a certain Spider-Man actor’s skills at the card table.

Void
Jun 3, 2020
#18420
Eric RothEric Roth

Tobey Maguire is the best poker player in America

I know that Tobey Maguire is the best poker player in America.

While Maguire is legendary in high-stakes Hollywood games, 'best in America' is a subjective and likely hyperbolic claim relative to professional players.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Mt. Rushmore

Hot Seat/Cool Throne featured Billy Football filling in for a vacationing Hank. Billy took aim at Jake Paul’s recent behavior during the national protests, comparing him to a certain cinematic icon in the worst way possible.

Void
Billy FootballBilly Football

Jake Paul is the Forrest Gump of clout chasers and his behavior is disgusting

Jake Paul is the Forrest Gump of clout chasers. He just shows up anytime there's a big event and he's like 'I'm in it too for a vlog.' I think it's disgusting and everyone on the internet thinks it's disgusting.

This is a subjective moral and character judgment.

PFT's Cool Throne went to Lenny Dykstra’s public image. It turns out that when you’ve already said and done the worst things imaginable, the legal system basically grants you a shield against libel.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Lenny Dykstra's reputation is so bad that it is now a legal asset

Lenny Dykstra, it was ruled by an actual court of law in the United States that you cannot libel Lenny Dykstra because his reputation is already so bad that you can't make it worse... He shot the moon with his reputation. It's become so bad that it's actually an asset.

A New York judge actually dismissed a lawsuit Dykstra filed against Ron Darling, ruling Dykstra's reputation was so poor he couldn't be libeled.

Big Cat put Philip Rivers on the Hot Seat for his refusal to curse, citing research that suggests a well-placed f-bomb could actually help the veteran QB’s performance.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Philip Rivers and Roy Williams should start cursing to improve their pain tolerance and win championships

My hot seat is Phil Rivers and Roy Williams because researchers found that saying the word fuck can improve your threshold for pain... when you say fudge or dang it or gosh darn it, it's worse... could you imagine what [Rivers] would be like as a quarterback if he actually said fuck? Do you think if Phil Rivers starts cussing, then he wins a Super Bowl? Probably.

Neither Rivers nor Williams changed their public cursing habits to test this, and both have since retired from their respective roles.

To wrap things up, the guys drafted a feel-good Mt. Rushmore of the things we love about dogs. From the head tilt to the way they decide it's simply bedtime, it was a rare moment of wholesomeness on the program. Big Cat’s top tier pick involved that initial explosion of energy that only happens with a yellow felt ball.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

The first throw of a tennis ball is the best thing about having a dog

The first tennis ball throw... when your dog just loses their fucking mind and they're like, this is awesome. And that first burst of energy, nothing better.

Purely subjective experience of pet ownership.

Hank is currently on a "mandatory" fourth vacation of the year, so remember: don't tell him the secret word is chin.

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Jun 3, 2020
#21666
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am a Drew Lock believer and would rank the Broncos between 12th and 15th

I'd put Broncos in the 12 to 15 region. I'm a Drew Lock guy.

The Broncos finished 5-11 and Drew Lock led the NFL in interceptions, proving to be a bottom-tier starter.
Win
Jun 3, 2020
#21667
Big CatBig Cat

The Texans being determined to 'feed' David Johnson is a bad sign for their offense

I think David Johnson, I think that's a bad thing. Bad thing because you know Bill O'Brien's like, we got to feed David Johnson. And he's not David Johnson anymore.

The Texans offense struggled, Bill O'Brien was fired after an 0-4 start, and David Johnson was largely ineffective.
Win
Jun 3, 2020
#18412
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Browns will be the 13th best team in the NFL and will make the playoffs

I'm actually going to put the Browns at 13. I'm a Browns believer. They're going back to the fullback game this year.

The Browns went 11-5 and won a playoff game, finishing well within the top half of the league.
Loss
Jun 3, 2020
#18413
Big CatBig Cat

The Giants are the most likely team of the bottom five to make the playoffs

I actually think the Giants could, of those five bottom teams, if I had to pick one of those five bottom teams to make the playoffs, I would throw in the Giants. Just because the NFC never makes sense. Daniel Jones, maybe he stops fumbling all the time.

The Giants finished 6-10 and missed the playoffs, although they remained in contention for the weak NFC East until Week 17.
Void
Jun 3, 2020
#18418
Eric RothEric Roth

Writer's block doesn't exist; you just need to 'change the weather' in the script

I've never, I've had places where I've gotten sort of stopped, but I just... what I have always advised people was change the weather. In other words, make it rain, make it snow, do something different just with the weather. And all of a sudden you have a different look at things.

Subjective creative advice.
Void
Jun 3, 2020
#21669
Eric RothEric Roth

Sam Cooke is a great, great singer

Sam Cooke is exactly right. Great, great singer.

Subjective appreciation of a musical artist.
Void
Jun 3, 2020
#18422
Eric RothEric Roth

David Fincher and Martin Scorsese are the best living directors

but David Fincher to me is the best, probably let's say Marty and him best living directors.

Subjective ranking of directors.
Win
Jun 3, 2020
#18423
Eric RothEric Roth

The NFL will move full steam ahead with the season regardless of protocols

Al Michaels felt pretty serious if football is going to happen, what you like it or not... They're just going full steam ahead. That's what I wondered. Don't they have any protocols? No. What virus? ... Rub some dirt on it. That's their protocol.

The NFL did indeed play a full 2020 season on schedule, unlike other leagues that had more significant delays or 'bubbles'.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

A dog's head tilt is the best thing about having a dog

The inquisitive ears slash look when a noise or, you know, like your dog's like trying to learn something new and they give you that sideways glance. The head tilt. Oh, the best.

Subjective preference.

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