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Heavyweight MMA Champ Stipe Miocic + Arian Foster

Monday, April 30, 201827 takes

Lebron survived and had the most Lebron game of all time ( - ). What the hell do the Thunder do now? We're going to miss Joe Prunty and his horrible fashion and the Wizards need to blow the whole thing up ( - ). The Caps have even the series and we're here to stave off the haters ( - ) . Who's Back of the Week including Draft Grades and Nerds. We discuss Avengers even though none of us saw it so don't worry about Spoilers ( - ). Heavyweight MMA Champion of the world Stipe Miocic joins the show to talk about his title, being doubted by Dana White, and what it's like being a Cleveland sports fan ( - ). We went on Arian Foster's podcast and included 10-15 minutes of our talk with him and a bonus first time we've talked BVT/ESPN since October ( - ). Segments include the debut of "Can I ask a question", Stay Classy for Sal Perez, and Embrace Debate Shaq thinks half of 80 is 20 and filling up your gas tank more means you spend less money.

Stipe Miocic on Dana White, Arian Foster, and NBA Playoffs

LeBron James just put the city of Cleveland on his back once again, and Big Cat has finally seen enough to give the King his flowers, albeit with a very specific ceiling. After a grueling seven-game series against the Pacers, the hierarchy of greatness has been reshuffled in the Chicago office.

Void
Apr 30, 2018
#9662
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is now the fourth-best player of all time

I am now moving LeBron to fourth best all-time, right ahead of Kobe. So that's big of me. I've seen enough. You've got MJ, Magic, Bill Russell.

Subjective ranking of players.

PFT and Hank weren't quite as ready to crown him without pointing out the theatrics. Between the floor-flopping and the mid-game locker room trips, the guys are convinced LeBron is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers, specifically when it comes to his health.

Void
Apr 30, 2018
#21781
HankHank

LeBron James's Game 7 cramps were a calculated 'escape plan' to have an excuse if the Cavaliers lost

I actually have a theory that [LeBron's cramps] was an escape plan. Because when he went to the locker room, it was tied. So he was like, if I go to the locker room with cramps, it's an excuse in case we lose this game.

This is an unfalsifiable psychological theory about LeBron's intent, making it inherently subjective.

While the Cavs survive, the rest of the NBA landscape is a mess. The Wizards are a dumpster fire that needs to be extinguished immediately, and Russell Westbrook is out here taking 43 shots while his teammates look on in horror. PFT is genuinely concerned that Westbrook’s intensity might actually lead to a crime scene in the Oklahoma City locker room.

Void
Apr 30, 2018
#9666
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Russell Westbrook is the most likely NBA player to kill a teammate

Also, you have to deal with Westbrook, who's probably the most likely to kill somebody in the NBA. I could see him murdering a teammate.

Purely hyperbolic joke.

The Baddest Man on the Planet

Stipe Miocic joined the show with his heavyweight belt sitting right on the desk, and he didn't waste time addressed the fact that Big Cat bet against him in his last fight. Big Cat admitted he fell hook, line, and sinker for the hype train surrounding Francis Ngannou, mostly because Dana White seemed to want anyone but Stipe to be the face of the division.

Stipe’s humility is almost jarring for a guy who punches people for a living. He still works as a firefighter and paramedic back in Ohio, keeping him grounded even when he’s headlining pay-per-views. He’s so confident in his abilities that he’s ready to represent the Red, White, and Blue in a very literal way if the need ever arises.

Win
Apr 30, 2018
#9672
Stipe MiocicStipe Miocic

I would win a one-on-one war for the United States against any other country's best fighter

Do you think that you would be the United States' best guy if we were to fight a one-on-one war against some other country? 100%. So you could win an entire war by yourself. Well, not a whole war. Like just one-on-one? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Against anyone in the world. 100%.

As the reigning Heavyweight Champ, he was literally the top-ranked combat athlete on earth.

The ESPN Post-Mortem with Arian Foster

In a rare moment of transparency, Big Cat and PFT sat down with Arian Foster to discuss the elephant in the room: the short-lived Barstool Van Talk. It’s been months since the show was canceled after just one episode, and the guys finally opened up about the internal politics and the "legacy seduction" that led them to Bristol in the first place.

Void
Apr 30, 2018
#9674
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Going to ESPN was a mistake fueled by the brand's legacy seduction

I think it was a mistake for sure. It was a mistake to go back to ESPN. I'll be honest. We got, speaking for myself at least, got a little bit seduced by the fact that, hey, we're going to be on ESPN. I mean, I grew up watching ESPN. It's a brand.

A personal admission and reflection.

Big Cat reflected on the experience as a turning point for how they view their own growth. While the sting of cancellation was real, it proved that the podcast is a powerhouse that doesn't need the validation of a traditional network to reach the next level.

Void
Apr 30, 2018
#21788
Big CatBig Cat

Sometimes you don't need legacy media to reach the 'next level' in your career; you can reach it on your own

The natural evolution of what we had created on the podcast was putting it on some kind of television platform... when in reality, the lesson I learned... Sometimes the next level isn't needed. Sometimes you go to the next level on your own.

This is a philosophical perspective on media evolution, widely validated by the continued growth of independent podcasting over the following years.

NHL Parallax and Shaq Math

As Caps fans, the guys are doing a lot of heavy lifting to defend Tom Wilson and a disallowed goal that cost them dearly. PFT has turned to high-level physics to explain why the puck was never actually in the net, citing the "Parallax Effect" as a universal truth that essentially renders every goal in hockey history questionable.

Loss
Apr 30, 2018
#21785
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Due to the 'Parallax Effect,' there has actually never been a goal scored in the history of hockey

There's a little something called the parallax effect... Depending on where you're standing in the arena, the puck can never be in the net. So we're good... That was not a goal. That was a great call by the official. The presence of mind to use the parallax effect in the middle of a game... you can't teach that.

This is a satirical take using a real optical phenomenon to make a false claim about the existence of goals.

The episode wrapped up with a breakdown of Shaq’s incredible appearance on Inside the NBA, where he tried to explain that filling up a gas tank halfway actually saves you money. While the logic would make a math teacher weep, PFT found a way to make the numbers work in Shaq's favor.

Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Filling up your gas tank more often for $20 saves you $60 compared to an $80 full tank

You're saving yourself 60 bucks because you're only paying 20. So I think Shaq's right. Yeah. Okay. All right.

Fact ClaimLifeScorchingSarcastic
The math is objectively wrong; you are spending the same amount of money for the same amount of gas over time, just in different increments.

If PFT has to head to Central Park to eat horse shit because the Capitals beat the Penguins, at least he’ll know he saved $60 on the drive there.

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Void
Apr 30, 2018
#21782
Big CatBig Cat

Ty Lue's decision to save Tristan Thompson for Game 7 was a genius coaching plan

Tristan [Thompson] Kardashian was basically the— I mean, he didn't play the entire series... Ty Lue... was saving all his energy... It's actually a genius plan by Ty Lue. [Fresh legs] for game seven.

Whether the decision was intentional genius or just a desperate adjustment is a matter of coaching opinion.
Loss
Apr 30, 2018
#9663
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The first-round series against the Pacers was a negative mark on LeBron James's legacy

Yeah, so this series was a negative mark on LeBron's legacy, even though he averaged like 42 points and basically a triple-double.

While the Cavs struggled, LeBron's individual stats in this series were legendary, making the 'negative mark' claim factually absurd but funny.
Win
Apr 30, 2018
#9664
Big CatBig Cat

The Wizards core needs to be blown up

The Wizards need to be blown up. We said this on the show. That core does not work.

The Wizards eventually traded Wall in 2020 and Beal in 2023, effectively blowing up the core after years of mediocrity.
Void
Apr 30, 2018
#9665
Big CatBig Cat

Paul George is actually 'Playoff Passive' because he turtles in big moments

Playoff P was such a playoff P that, I mean, I've never seen anyone be more, it's actually playoff passive is what it stands for because he turtles in big moments. And the fact that he gave himself the nickname, playoff P after game one, is one of the most embarrassing things you could ever do.

George has a history of inconsistent playoff performances ('Pandemic P'), though he has also had deep runs. The nickname became a punchline.
Win
Apr 30, 2018
#21783
Big CatBig Cat

Paul George is going to stay with the Oklahoma City Thunder

And I actually do think Playoff P [Paul George] is going to stay.

Big Cat was correct; Paul George signed a four-year extension with the Thunder in July 2018.
Void
Apr 30, 2018
#21784
Big CatBig Cat

Carmelo Anthony's four Olympic gold medals make his legacy more impressive than LeBron James's three NBA rings

LeBron has three rings. Melo has... four gold medals... he won four gold medals against the best competition in the world. LeBron's limiting... LeBron shines big on the small stage. Just asking that question.

The comparison of Olympic gold to NBA rings is purely a matter of personal legacy valuation.
Void
Apr 30, 2018
#9667
Big CatBig Cat

Brad Stevens is the best coach in the NBA

And then the Celtics are, I mean, we've said this before, but Brad Stevens is the best coach in the league.

He was arguably top-tier at the time, though he eventually transitioned to the front office without winning a title as coach.
Win
Apr 30, 2018
#9668
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tom Wilson's hit on Brian Dumoulin was clean

I think it was a pretty clean hit, too. So he was skating behind the guy, right? It was Dumo. So Dumo was a friend of the show. So Dumo was skating, and then Wilson was behind him, and then Dumo just hit the brakes and almost threw his head into Wilson's shoulder.

The NHL Department of Player Safety did not suspend Wilson for this specific hit, supporting the 'clean' claim in a technical sense.
Win
Apr 30, 2018
#9669
Big CatBig Cat

The Capitals will win the Stanley Cup this year

I feel pretty good. I think this is our year. Yeah. I feel pretty good. Yeah, I feel like this is all going nicely for us.

The Washington Capitals defeated the Vegas Golden Knights in 5 games to win the 2018 Stanley Cup.
Void
Apr 30, 2018·Who's Back
#9670
Big CatBig Cat

Every draft grade list should be required to give at least one F

Mel Kiper's grades are so fucking funny. He won't give anyone an F, which is bullshit. Like, if you do grades, you should have to give at least one F. You should have to.

This is a subjective take on how media should operate.
Void
Apr 30, 2018·Who's Back
#21786
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mel Kiper Jr. is only 1-for-13 all-time at correctly identifying franchise starting quarterbacks

He's like one in 13 all time [on identifying] starting quarterback[s].

Calculating 'correctness' on draft hit rates is highly subjective and the exact '1 in 13' figure is likely hyperbole.
Win
Apr 30, 2018·Who's Back
#9671
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I will eat one bite of horse shit if the Capitals beat the Penguins

I think you should have to eat shit if they beat the Penguins. Agreed. Just one bite. I'm not saying... Just one bite. Everyone knows the rules. ... Caps beat the Penguins. We're going to Central Park, and PFT's going to eat some shit. Just one bite.

The Capitals beat the Penguins in the second round, and PFT Commenter followed through by eating horse shit in Central Park.
Void
Apr 30, 2018
#21787
Stipe MiocicStipe Miocic

Floyd Mayweather's quickness would prevent Conor McGregor from taking him down in an MMA fight

[Mayweather] would punch [Conor McGregor] like 20 times by the time he got to him.

This remains a hypothetical as Mayweather never competed in MMA, though most experts believe the wrestler would have a massive advantage.
Void
Apr 30, 2018
#9673
Big CatBig Cat

No matter where we go in our careers, people will try to take us down for our past

It's almost liberating because it taught me that no matter where we go with our careers, people are going to try to take me down for my past. And that's fine because at this point, the biggest takeaway was don't get caught in a situation where internal politics and people with an ax to grind can determine your fate.

This is a personal philosophical takeaway.
Win
Apr 30, 2018
#9675
Arian FosterArian Foster

Television as a medium is dying

Yeah, that's the problem they're having is TV's dying. Right. Nobody watches TV anymore. It is, but it isn't. It's dying.

Cable viewership has seen a massive decline since 2018 in favor of streaming and digital media.
Win
Big CatBig Cat

Jason Witten is the hottest prospect in the sports analyst market

When the hell did Jason Witten become the hottest piece of ass on the analyst circuit? ... Jason Witten just became the hottest prospect in the analyst market.

Witten was indeed the center of a major bidding war, eventually joining Monday Night Football.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Jason Witten is a surefire Hall of Famer

[Jason Witten] will be [a Hall of Famer].

Jason Witten was a finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2026 but was not selected. Drew Brees and Larry Fitzgerald were among the first-ballot inductees instead. Witten has not yet been inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If you played for the Cowboys in the last 15 years, a media gig is waiting for you

If you played for the Dallas Cowboys in the last 15 years, you have a media gig that's waiting for you. T.O. in the booth. They should put T.O. and McNabb in the booth together.

A vast number of prominent NFL analysts are former Cowboys (Romo, Aikman, Irvin, Witten, Spears, etc.).
Void
Apr 30, 2018·Stay Classy
#9678
Big CatBig Cat

Salvador Perez just booked himself a trip to the Hall of Fame by banning swearing

I think Salvador Perez just booked himself a trip to Cooperstown because if you want to get the Baseball Writers of America on your side, just ban swearing after home runs.

Satirical prediction based on media tropes.

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