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Jake Plummer Live From His Mushroom Farm, Hard Knocks, Grit Week Midweek Recap + Mt Rushmore Of Universally Loved Things

Wednesday, August 10, 202214 takes

Hard Knocks is back and Dan Campbell is the absolute best. We recap Hard Knocks and talk about Grit Week 3 days in (00;02;55-00;18;42). Kevin Durant wants everyone fired and Roquan Smith notes app’d the Bears (00;18;42-00;29;16) . Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Beth Mowins game being done and Colin Cowherd still pretending to not know who we are (00;29;16-00;52;41). Jake Plummer joins the show live from his mushroom farm and we talk about his career in the NFL, being 100 seconds away from a national title at ASU, Pat Tillman and his mushroom farm and growing business (00;52;41-01;48;14). We finish with Mt Rushmore of universally loved things (01;48;14-02;11;08)

Jake Plummer on Mushrooms and Pat Tillman, Plus Hard Knocks and Universal Loves

Grit Week is rolling through Denver, and Big Cat and PFT Commenter are currently three-for-three on not getting murdered while watching Hard Knocks at random listeners' houses. The first episode of the Lions' season of Hard Knocks dropped, and it’s basically a Dan Campbell biopic. The guy is a walking quote machine, whether he’s talking about drowning people in the deep end or crying football guy tears during practice. Big Cat is fully bought in on the vibes in Detroit.

Win
Aug 10, 2022
#16774
Big CatBig Cat

The Detroit Lions will be a better football team this year

I think the [Lions] will be better this year, but [Dan Campbell], the way he talks to his team, like the fact that he's always on the verge of crying football guy tears, he's always on the verge of crying. Holy shit, can that guy fire up a team?

The Lions improved from 3 wins to 9 wins in the 2022 season, making this a correct prediction.

While the Lions are providing the optimism, the Brooklyn Nets are providing the comedy. Kevin Durant has reportedly told Joe Tsai to fire GM Sean Marks and coach Steve Nash. PFT pointed out the hilarious irony of KD wanting the man who gave him everything fired, while Big Cat noted that the Nets are simply reaping what they sowed by giving the players the keys to the franchise.

Void
Aug 10, 2022
#21479
Big CatBig Cat

You can't be upset that Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving are trying to run the Nets after you gave them ownership of the team

You gave Kevin Durant basically ownership of this team. You can't be like, 'Oh my God, how could this happen? He wants everyone fired.' You gave them the team. You can't be upset that now the guys who you gave the team to are trying to run the team.

This is a subjective assessment of team management and power dynamics.
Void
Aug 10, 2022
#16775
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sean Marks is a bad GM because he brought in Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving

I kind of agree with Kevin Durant. I think that Sean Marks is a bad GM because he brought Kevin Durant in. So Kevin Durant is right. They should fire him for bringing him in there.

Subjective opinion on GM performance, delivered via irony.

In the NFL world, Roquan Smith's 'Notes App' trade request from the Bears sparked a discussion on the value of off-ball linebackers in the modern game. PFT has a theory that the position is following the path of the workhorse back.

Void
Aug 10, 2022
#16776
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Linebackers have become the running backs of the defense

I think that linebackers have kind of become the running backs of the defense where you don't need to pay a right. You don't need to start. Right. And I, in a way, like I missed the old days where it was, you know, like a linebacker centric league.

This reflects the modern NFL trend of prioritizing pass rushers over off-ball linebackers in salary cap allocation.

Before the guys headed out to the farm, Hot Seat/Cool Throne touched on the tragic news of Beth Mowins losing the Big Ten on ESPN. For Big Cat, it’s the end of an era for Saturday morning productivity—or lack thereof.

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Big CatBig Cat

Watching Beth Mowins call a low-scoring Big Ten game early on a Saturday morning was the perfect way to ease into a day of college football

The Big 10 has their new contract... That means, unfortunately, ESPN will not have the Big 10 and we will not have Beth Mowins putting us in a perfect spot on a Saturday morning, watching Purdue and Northwestern have a punt off. And I'm gonna miss that, because that game means a lot to me. It was a great way to ease you into Saturday because I don't like having a huge game right away.

This is an inherently subjective opinion about viewing habits.

They also addressed the eternal bit of Colin Cowherd pretending he doesn't know who they are, despite the fact that he recently described Big Cat as a "standup comedian with a big physical presence."

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Big CatBig Cat

Colin Cowherd knows exactly who PMT is and is doing a bit by pretending not to

He is now going on seven years of the running gag of pretending he doesn't know who we are... he described me as a standup comedian, big guy, big physical presence. And I like, at this point I respect Cowherd for doing this because he is so committed to it... for him to pretend he doesn't know what the number one sports podcast is. I actually tip my cap. Like it's funny.

Cowherd eventually admitted to knowing them and appeared on the show in 2024, confirming it was largely a bit.

Jake the Snake at the Mushroom Farm

Jake Plummer is officially the coolest guy to ever play the position. Sitting in a fruiting room surrounded by Reishi mushrooms, the former Cardinals and Broncos QB walked Big Cat and PFT through his decision to walk away from millions of dollars at age 32. He wasn't interested in Gruden's recruiting pitch to Tampa; he was ready to play handball and explore the world.

He spoke candidly about his close friend Pat Tillman, explaining why he doesn't like to speak for Pat’s legacy, even as he tries to live with the same authenticity Tillman did.

Void
Aug 10, 2022
#16781
Jake PlummerJake Plummer

You can never be at the same level of authentic humanity as Pat Tillman

I try to not talk too much about Pat because I feel like he lived his life at such a high level for me to talk for him... I'm trying to raise my game so I can actually be at that similar level, but you could never be at a level of someone like him.

Subjective opinion on personal legacy and character.

Now, Plummer is all-in on the fungal kingdom. He’s a "myco-lover" who believes medicinal mushrooms are the Earth's natural way of balancing human health. He’s especially high on the benefits of Lion's Mane for brain health, something he thinks every person should incorporate into their routine.

Open
Aug 10, 2022
#16780
Jake PlummerJake Plummer

Lion's Mane mushroom is a daily regimen everyone should use for brain health

Lions Mane is great for your brain for neuronal growth basically for all neurons in your body. Lions Mane is one that we're gonna have a lot of research done here soon that's gonna show that it's a something that everybody should have in their daily regimen.

Functional mushrooms have seen a massive rise in the wellness market since 2022, though universal daily adoption is still pending.

Mount Rushmore of Universally Loved Things

To wrap things up, the crew tackled the Mount Rushmore of Universally Loved Things. While Big Cat and PFT stayed safe with puppies and music, Team Hank went for the jugular with a very literal pick for something everyone enjoys.

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HankHank

Getting head is a universally loved thing

Our first pick is getting head. Getting your [dick] sucked or getting eaten out if you were a lady. Everyone likes head. I think this is the obvious one too.

Inherent human biological preferences are generally subjective, but the take is stated as a universal truth.

Billy Football, struggling with the Denver altitude, decided to get philosophical. He argued that while people take it for granted, nothing is more loved than the ability to not die.

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Billy FootballBilly Football

Oxygen is a universally loved thing

Something we all take for granted... Oxygen. Everyone loves oxygen and especially, hey, we've all been carrying stuff around altitude... If you didn't have oxygen, you would die. Do you love breathing? You want to breathe. If I took you out to the water and drowned you... you gotta succeed as much as you want to breathe.

While technically correct that humans need oxygen, picking it as a 'loved' item is an absurd literalism.

If you aren't ready to run through a wall after hearing Dan Campbell or start a mushroom garden after hearing Jake Plummer, you might not have a pulse.

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More Takes

Loss
Aug 10, 2022
#16777
Big CatBig Cat

I don't believe Chris Sale actually fell off a bicycle

I just don't believe it. I was gonna say like, gut, just going off my gut right now until I see video evidence. I think he was like playing basketball. I think it was something else. Yeah, no I do. I do not believe because Chris Sale... he just is the king of weird injuries. So I, I don't, I don't really buy it.

While Chris Sale has a history of freak injuries, the official report remains a bicycle accident. There is no proof it was a different activity.
Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Cam Smith is leaving the PGA Tour for the LIV Tour

My cool throne is going to be Cam Smith... He's leaving the PGA tour and going to the LIV tour. Allegedly as first reported by Pardon My Take. ... He's gonna be joining the LIV tour for a hundred million. Pretty good.

Cameron Smith officially joined LIV Golf on August 30, 2022, shortly after this episode aired.
Loss
Billy FootballBilly Football

Mekhi Becton's shattered kneecap could be good for his career

I think maybe this time will do him well, mature, and we'll see him this year. The shattered kneecap could be really good for his NFL career is what I'm trying to say, trying to be optimistic.

Becton missed the entire 2022 season and was eventually let go by the Jets after years of injuries; a shattered kneecap is rarely 'good' for a 350lb lineman.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Rams would have won the Super Bowl by more if Jared Goff was the quarterback instead of Matthew Stafford

Trading for Matthew Stafford was a bad idea. They would've won the Super Bowl by more if Jared Goff was our quarterback. Matthew Stafford was a bad idea.

The Rams won the Super Bowl in Stafford's first year as starter, and Goff was traded away specifically to upgrade the position; there is no evidence the team would have been better with Goff.

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