Jerry O’Connell on Fantasy Regrets, ‘Druggie Eyes’, and NFL Draft Predictions
The dust has finally settled from Championship Sunday, and while PFT is finding peace in the bus meme after the Commanders’ exit, Max is already in peak defensive mode for the Eagles. Big Cat is looking at the coaching carousel and the fallout from the Bills’ latest heartbreak. While the internet is busy drawing lines on screenshots to prove Josh Allen got the first down, Big Cat is focused on the future of the coaching staff in Buffalo.
Sean McDermott should not be fired
Sean McDermott still has his job. I don't think he should be fired now. The dust has been settled... He's a very, very good coach. But you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs and how much those losses just stay with a man.
PFT has a different perspective on the playoff exit, noting that sometimes it is actually easier to just get your doors blown off than to lose a heartbreaker on a missed kick or a bad spot.
Getting your ass kicked in the playoffs is better than losing a close game
I think it captures the moment perfectly. It's... the two guys on the bus meme. One is really pissed off. Doom and gloom. The other guy's super happy. The guy that's pissed off is losing a close game. The guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked. So getting your ass kicked is better in those situations, I think than being like, oh, you know, we were one play away.
The guys also took a look at the Super Bowl matchup between the Chiefs and the Eagles. While the media is crowning the Chiefs’ defense as an all-time unit, Big Cat isn’t quite buying the hype yet, though he is terrified of what Patrick Mahomes can do when the lights are brightest.
The Chiefs' defense is overrated while their offense is underrated
The Chiefs' defense is a little overrated. I'm gonna say it right now. I'm gonna dig into some numbers for you, but I'm gonna say it... Their rush defense has not been incredible in the back half. Now the problem is for you and the Chiefs is their offense has gotten a lot better. I think their defense is above average. And I think people think that their offense is average. And I think that's also above average.
Liam Coen and the Art of the Intro
New Jaguars coach Liam Coen had an introduction to the world that can only be described as AI-generated. Between the double eyebrow raise, the "Duval" chant, and the weird acronyms, it was a first impression for the ages. He introduced the FAST principle: Fundamentally sound, Attacking, Situational masters, and Tough. PFT noted that "Situational Masters" sounds like a mid-level management seminar at a Marriott Bonvoy, while Big Cat couldn’t get past the fact that Coen spent thirty seconds preaching about honesty right after he essentially ghosted the Buccaneers organization.
Hot Seat/Cool Throne
Hank put Heat Culture on the Hot Seat as Jimmy Butler remains suspended indefinitely. The guys discussed whether Jimmy is still the alpha every team needs or if he’s simply become too much of a headache for a team looking to build a winning locker room.
Jimmy Butler is an absolute locker room cancer
I mean he's old and he's proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker room cancer can't even win.
Big Cat brought up Jalen Milroe’s draft stock and the one measurement that might sink him in the eyes of NFL scouts. Forget the deep ball accuracy or the rushing ability; it’s all about the palms.
Jalen Milroe's 8.75-inch hands would be the smallest ever for a first-round quarterback
Jalen Milroe has insanely small hands. Eight and three fourth inches. To put it into perspective, it would be the smallest hands of any first round quarterback ever taken.
Other highlights included Josh Harris allegedly banning the Sixers from posting about the Eagles and PFT’s entire wardrobe being stolen off his porch in Chicago. PFT’s theory is that the burglar opened the bag, saw six different Darius Rucker-themed Commanders shirts and a bunny onesie, and immediately regretted his life choices.
Jerry O’Connell’s Fantasy Exit Interview
Our good friend Jerry O'Connell flew into Chicago on a red-eye just to face the music after a third-place finish in the PMT fantasy league. The interview was a rollercoaster of accountability and wild projections. Jerry confessed to turning down an AJ Brown for Joe Mixon trade at the deadline because he was worried about the "vibes" in Philly, a move that Big Cat and PFT will likely never let him live down.
Jerry didn't hold back on the Jets' situation either, specifically pointing the finger at Aaron Rodgers and a very specific physical trait he noticed while screening his daughters' boyfriends.
Aaron Rodgers has 'druggie eyes' and is the problem with the Jets
I think the problem is Aaron. I think he's the problem... I look them in the eye to look for, to see if they're druggies. And I gotta tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggie eyes. He looks like a druggie. Aaron Rodgers just has druggie eyes to me.
He also laid out a vision for the Giants' future that involves a homecoming for a former USC star and a Heisman-caliber rookie.
The Giants will win the NFC East if they get Sam Darnold and Travis Hunter
They get Travis Hunter, Sam Darnold comes over to the Giants. He's got Travis Hunter, Malik [Nabers], and that running back Tracy... they're winning the NFC East next [year].
Guys on Getting Old
To wrap up the show, Big Cat and PFT reflected on the fact that this is their final episode as 39-year-olds. They’ve spent essentially their entire thirties hosting this show, and the transition to 40 is bringing up some existential dread about the "back nine" of life. Big Cat has a theory that the key to aging gracefully is simply leaning into the inevitable.
Getting old is primarily about 'giving less of a fuck'
I think the number one thing is giving less of a fuck. That's the number one thing with age that is so much better. Where it's like, I don't start dressing better, but it's like, I don't care. I got kids. I got a good life. I don't give a fuck.
Happy Birthday to the guys, and let's pray PFT survives the birthday case race.

