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Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old

Wednesday, January 29, 202521 takes

The dust has settled from Championship Sunday and we check in on PFT and Max already being in Super Bowl mode(-). Liam Coen’s introduction to the world went very weirdly. Jerry Jones can’t stop talking about Glory Holes(-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Josh Harris stopping the Sixers from posting about the Eagles and PFT’s clothes got stolen(-). Jerry O’Connell joins us in studio to examine what went wrong our fantasy team, who were drafting next year and a poem to memes(-). We finish with a special guys on getting old before our birthdays(-).

Jerry O’Connell on Fantasy Regrets, ‘Druggie Eyes’, and NFL Draft Predictions

The dust has finally settled from Championship Sunday, and while PFT is finding peace in the bus meme after the Commanders’ exit, Max is already in peak defensive mode for the Eagles. Big Cat is looking at the coaching carousel and the fallout from the Bills’ latest heartbreak. While the internet is busy drawing lines on screenshots to prove Josh Allen got the first down, Big Cat is focused on the future of the coaching staff in Buffalo.

Win
Jan 29, 2025
#6632
Big CatBig Cat

Sean McDermott should not be fired

Sean McDermott still has his job. I don't think he should be fired now. The dust has been settled... He's a very, very good coach. But you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs and how much those losses just stay with a man.

Sean McDermott was retained for the following season.

PFT has a different perspective on the playoff exit, noting that sometimes it is actually easier to just get your doors blown off than to lose a heartbreaker on a missed kick or a bad spot.

Void
Jan 29, 2025
#6634
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Getting your ass kicked in the playoffs is better than losing a close game

I think it captures the moment perfectly. It's... the two guys on the bus meme. One is really pissed off. Doom and gloom. The other guy's super happy. The guy that's pissed off is losing a close game. The guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked. So getting your ass kicked is better in those situations, I think than being like, oh, you know, we were one play away.

This is an inherently subjective take on fan psychology.

The guys also took a look at the Super Bowl matchup between the Chiefs and the Eagles. While the media is crowning the Chiefs’ defense as an all-time unit, Big Cat isn’t quite buying the hype yet, though he is terrified of what Patrick Mahomes can do when the lights are brightest.

Win
Jan 29, 2025
#6636
Big CatBig Cat

The Chiefs' defense is overrated while their offense is underrated

The Chiefs' defense is a little overrated. I'm gonna say it right now. I'm gonna dig into some numbers for you, but I'm gonna say it... Their rush defense has not been incredible in the back half. Now the problem is for you and the Chiefs is their offense has gotten a lot better. I think their defense is above average. And I think people think that their offense is average. And I think that's also above average.

Big Cat said the Chiefs' defense was overrated and their offense was underrated. In Super Bowl LIX, the Chiefs' defense gave up 40 points to the Eagles, supporting the 'overrated defense' claim. The offense put up decent numbers but couldn't overcome the defensive failures.

Liam Coen and the Art of the Intro

New Jaguars coach Liam Coen had an introduction to the world that can only be described as AI-generated. Between the double eyebrow raise, the "Duval" chant, and the weird acronyms, it was a first impression for the ages. He introduced the FAST principle: Fundamentally sound, Attacking, Situational masters, and Tough. PFT noted that "Situational Masters" sounds like a mid-level management seminar at a Marriott Bonvoy, while Big Cat couldn’t get past the fact that Coen spent thirty seconds preaching about honesty right after he essentially ghosted the Buccaneers organization.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank put Heat Culture on the Hot Seat as Jimmy Butler remains suspended indefinitely. The guys discussed whether Jimmy is still the alpha every team needs or if he’s simply become too much of a headache for a team looking to build a winning locker room.

Void
HankHank

Jimmy Butler is an absolute locker room cancer

I mean he's old and he's proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker room cancer can't even win.

This is a subjective characterization of a player's locker room presence.

Big Cat brought up Jalen Milroe’s draft stock and the one measurement that might sink him in the eyes of NFL scouts. Forget the deep ball accuracy or the rushing ability; it’s all about the palms.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Jalen Milroe's 8.75-inch hands would be the smallest ever for a first-round quarterback

Jalen Milroe has insanely small hands. Eight and three fourth inches. To put it into perspective, it would be the smallest hands of any first round quarterback ever taken.

Milroe's hands were measured at 8 3/4 inches at the Senior Bowl, which is indeed historically small for a top QB prospect (comparable to Taysom Hill).

Other highlights included Josh Harris allegedly banning the Sixers from posting about the Eagles and PFT’s entire wardrobe being stolen off his porch in Chicago. PFT’s theory is that the burglar opened the bag, saw six different Darius Rucker-themed Commanders shirts and a bunny onesie, and immediately regretted his life choices.

Jerry O’Connell’s Fantasy Exit Interview

Our good friend Jerry O'Connell flew into Chicago on a red-eye just to face the music after a third-place finish in the PMT fantasy league. The interview was a rollercoaster of accountability and wild projections. Jerry confessed to turning down an AJ Brown for Joe Mixon trade at the deadline because he was worried about the "vibes" in Philly, a move that Big Cat and PFT will likely never let him live down.

Jerry didn't hold back on the Jets' situation either, specifically pointing the finger at Aaron Rodgers and a very specific physical trait he noticed while screening his daughters' boyfriends.

Void
Jan 29, 2025
#6655
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Aaron Rodgers has 'druggie eyes' and is the problem with the Jets

I think the problem is Aaron. I think he's the problem... I look them in the eye to look for, to see if they're druggies. And I gotta tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggie eyes. He looks like a druggie. Aaron Rodgers just has druggie eyes to me.

Subjective 'vibe' analysis.

He also laid out a vision for the Giants' future that involves a homecoming for a former USC star and a Heisman-caliber rookie.

Loss
Jan 29, 2025
#6663
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

The Giants will win the NFC East if they get Sam Darnold and Travis Hunter

They get Travis Hunter, Sam Darnold comes over to the Giants. He's got Travis Hunter, Malik [Nabers], and that running back Tracy... they're winning the NFC East next [year].

The Giants went 4-13 in 2025 and did not win the NFC East. The Eagles won the NFC East with an 11-6 record. Sam Darnold did not go to the Giants. Travis Hunter was drafted by the Jaguars, not the Giants.

Guys on Getting Old

To wrap up the show, Big Cat and PFT reflected on the fact that this is their final episode as 39-year-olds. They’ve spent essentially their entire thirties hosting this show, and the transition to 40 is bringing up some existential dread about the "back nine" of life. Big Cat has a theory that the key to aging gracefully is simply leaning into the inevitable.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Getting old is primarily about 'giving less of a fuck'

I think the number one thing is giving less of a fuck. That's the number one thing with age that is so much better. Where it's like, I don't start dressing better, but it's like, I don't care. I got kids. I got a good life. I don't give a fuck.

This is a subjective experience of aging.

Happy Birthday to the guys, and let's pray PFT survives the birthday case race.

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More Takes

Win
Jan 29, 2025
#6638
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

No team that wins exactly 15 games in the regular season has won a Super Bowl since 1985

I got a trend. Big Cat, no team that's won exactly 15 games in the regular season has won the Super Bowl since 1985.

The 1985 Bears won 15 games and the Super Bowl. Since then, 15-win teams like the 1998 Vikings, 2004 Steelers, 2011 Packers, and 2015 Panthers all failed to win the title.
Void
Jan 29, 2025
#6640
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL film dorks who watch the 'dots' don't actually like football

You can't use the dots... They use the overhead dots and the overhead. I don't know who likes watching the dots. It's all the like, film nerd people. You don't, you don't like football if you like watching the dots. Yeah. Or maybe, maybe you can, but I can't appreciate looking at the dots and understanding how awesome football is. Nobody's hitting each other. There's nothing cool that happens.

This is a subjective opinion on how to consume sports media.
Win
Jan 29, 2025
#6642
Big CatBig Cat

Anyone who says they are boycotting the Super Bowl is a liar

I'll say this loud and clear. I'm, I'm always gonna watch the Super Bowl. You, it's the last football game of the year. And anyone who says they're not gonna watch the Super Bowl, you're a fucking liar. That's, you're just a liar. You're gonna watch the Super Bowl. You might not talk about the Super Bowl. You might complain about the Super Bowl. You're gonna fucking sit down on Super Bowl Sunday.

Super Bowl ratings consistently show it is the most-watched event regardless of the matchup or controversy.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

The Warriors should have just resigned Klay Thompson and stayed old together

I don't even think like, this is why this revisionist history just fucking should have just resigned Klay and just gotten like, you have to pick a lane. Like just maybe just get old together. And just be like, all right. It was fun, but everyone got to stay together... if you know you're not gonna win again, just go nostalgia.

Subjective opinion on franchise management.
Loss
Jan 29, 2025
#6653
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Tyreek Hill is going to the Washington Commanders next season

I think Tyreek Hill is gonna go to Washington. I know, I think Josh Harris is gonna pay that 27 million and it's gonna open everything up. And I'm really looking forward to that.

Tyreek Hill was not traded to the Washington Commanders. He remained with the Miami Dolphins in 2025 before suffering a season-ending knee injury in Week 4 and was released in February 2026.
Loss
Jan 29, 2025
#6657
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Aaron Rodgers will play for Tennessee or Cleveland next year

I do think Aaron Rodgers will go to, I think he'll go to Tennessee. I could see that happening. Maybe the Browns, maybe the Steelers. Maybe.

Aaron Rodgers signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers, not Tennessee or Cleveland as predicted.
Open
Jan 29, 2025
#6659
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Josh McDaniels is going to turn Drake Maye into Tom Brady 2.0

We're gonna draft Drake Maye next season. Fuck yes... Josh McDaniels is going to turn Drake Maye into Brady 2.0.

The outcome of Drake Maye's career and McDaniels' impact are pending.
Loss
Jan 29, 2025
#21421
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

If the Raiders get Shedeur Sanders, Brock Bowers and Jakobi Meyers become must-draft players

If they get Shedeur... then I, I have to tell you, Jakobi Meyers and [Brock] Bowers become must drafts. Love that.

The Raiders did NOT get Shedeur Sanders. They drafted Ashton Jeanty (RB) with their first pick and traded for Geno Smith. Sanders fell to the 5th round and was drafted by the Cleveland Browns. The premise of this prediction never materialized.
Push
Jan 29, 2025
#21422
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Jalen Warren will be a must-draft fantasy player if Najee Harris leaves the Steelers

Najee Harris leaving [the Steelers], Jalen Warren becomes a must draft. Good running back.

Najee Harris did leave the Steelers (signing with the Chargers), and Jaylen Warren became the Steelers' lead back in 2025, posting career highs with 958 rushing yards and 8 total TDs across 16 games. He was a solid fantasy RB2 but not necessarily a must-draft league winner as predicted.
Open
Jan 29, 2025
#6661
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Anthony Richardson will be out of the NFL in a couple of years

We drafted as our QB one Anthony Richardson on our team... It will never happen again. I actually, I'm, I'm coming in here with takes. I think Anthony Richardson is out of the league in a couple years.

Outcome pending over the next few seasons.
Void
Jan 29, 2025
#6665
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Ashton Jeanty should have won the Heisman

The person who should have won the Heisman, Ashton Jeanty... Travis Hunter had a pretty good season... [but] Ashton Jeanty shoulda won the Heisman.

Travis Hunter won the Heisman, making this a subjective 'who should have won' argument.
Void
Jan 29, 2025
#21423
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyle Pitts is never going to happen

Kyle Pitts is never gonna happen fast. [PFT]: I like that. That's the best point that you've made.

Subjective career evaluation, though historically supported by his lack of production.
Win
Jan 29, 2025
#6666
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Bryce Young is going to have a really good year in 2025

And my final take, I think Bryce Young is gonna have a really good year next [year].

Bryce Young had a really good 2025 season: 3,011 yards, 23 TDs, 63.6% completion, led the Panthers to an 8-9 division title and their first playoff appearance since 2017.

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